1 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:13,713 >>> THIS SUNDAY END WITH JUST 37 2 00:00:13,714 --> 00:00:14,747 >>> THIS SUNDAY END WITH JUST 37 DAYS UNTIL THE MIDTERMS, 3 00:00:14,782 --> 00:00:18,341 DAYS UNTIL THE MIDTERMS, PRESSURE GROWS TO END THE WAR IN 4 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:20,620 PRESSURE GROWS TO END THE WAR IN IRAN AS AMERICANS FACE RISING 5 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:21,488 IRAN AS AMERICANS FACE RISING PRIZES AT THE PUMP. 6 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:28,895 PRIZES AT THE PUMP. >> WILL A DEAL BE MADE WITH 7 00:00:28,896 --> 00:00:29,352 >> WILL A DEAL BE MADE WITH IRAN? 8 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:32,199 IRAN? >> I WILL TALK TO THE IRANIAN 9 00:00:32,233 --> 00:00:36,293 >> I WILL TALK TO THE IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER ABBAS ARAGHCHI. 10 00:00:36,304 --> 00:00:36,994 FOREIGN MINISTER ABBAS ARAGHCHI. U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED 11 00:00:37,005 --> 00:00:38,429 U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS MIKE WALTZ AND 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,063 NATIONS MIKE WALTZ AND DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA 13 00:00:40,074 --> 00:00:40,474 DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA OF CALIFORNIA. 14 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:43,200 OF CALIFORNIA. PLUS, BEYOND HUMAN. 15 00:00:43,211 --> 00:00:46,737 PLUS, BEYOND HUMAN. BILL GATES ON THE RAPID RISE OF 16 00:00:46,748 --> 00:00:47,638 BILL GATES ON THE RAPID RISE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND 17 00:00:47,649 --> 00:00:48,572 ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WHETHER HUMANS CAN KEEP IT UNDER 18 00:00:48,583 --> 00:00:49,716 WHETHER HUMANS CAN KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL. 19 00:00:49,751 --> 00:00:54,712 CONTROL. >> THIS IS TRULY AN EVOLUTIONARY 20 00:00:54,723 --> 00:00:55,045 >> THIS IS TRULY AN EVOLUTIONARY EVENT. 21 00:00:55,056 --> 00:00:57,581 EVENT. WE HAVE CREATED AN INTELLIGENT 22 00:00:57,592 --> 00:00:59,350 WE HAVE CREATED AN INTELLIGENT SPECIES THAT IN MANY RESPECTS IS 23 00:00:59,361 --> 00:01:01,294 SPECIES THAT IN MANY RESPECTS IS ALREADY SMARTER THAN WE ARE. 24 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:03,263 ALREADY SMARTER THAN WE ARE. >> AND BREAKING RANKS. 25 00:01:03,264 --> 00:01:05,689 >> AND BREAKING RANKS. AS ELECTION DAY NEARS, 26 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,768 AS ELECTION DAY NEARS, REPUBLICANS DISTANCE THEMSELVES 27 00:01:07,769 --> 00:01:08,435 REPUBLICANS DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. 28 00:01:08,470 --> 00:01:09,627 FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> THE WAR WITH IRAN NEEDS TO 29 00:01:09,638 --> 00:01:10,837 >> THE WAR WITH IRAN NEEDS TO END AND END QUICKLY. 30 00:01:10,839 --> 00:01:14,498 END AND END QUICKLY. >> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND 31 00:01:14,509 --> 00:01:18,546 >> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND NITTANY LIONS ARE NBC NEWS CHIEF 32 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:19,303 NITTANY LIONS ARE NBC NEWS CHIEF CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT RYAN 33 00:01:19,314 --> 00:01:20,013 CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT RYAN NOBLES, MARC SHORT, FORMER 34 00:01:20,048 --> 00:01:21,839 NOBLES, MARC SHORT, FORMER DIRECT OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS 35 00:01:21,850 --> 00:01:23,407 DIRECT OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND ADRIENNE 36 00:01:23,418 --> 00:01:25,553 FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND ADRIENNE ELROD, FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO 37 00:01:25,587 --> 00:01:26,277 ELROD, FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN. 38 00:01:26,288 --> 00:01:26,878 THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN. WELCOME TO SUNDAY. 39 00:01:26,889 --> 00:01:32,583 WELCOME TO SUNDAY. IT’S "MEET THE PRESS." 40 00:01:32,594 --> 00:01:34,018 IT’S "MEET THE PRESS." >> Announcer: FROM NBC NEWS IN 41 00:01:34,029 --> 00:01:35,729 >> Announcer: FROM NBC NEWS IN WASHINGTON, THE LONGEST RUNNING 42 00:01:35,764 --> 00:01:36,420 WASHINGTON, THE LONGEST RUNNING SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY. 43 00:01:36,431 --> 00:01:37,088 SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY. THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS WITH 44 00:01:37,099 --> 00:01:40,991 THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS WITH KRISTEN WELKER." 45 00:01:41,002 --> 00:01:42,536 KRISTEN WELKER." >> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. 46 00:01:42,571 --> 00:01:43,771 >> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. WITH JUST FIVE WEEKS UNTIL THE 47 00:01:43,772 --> 00:01:46,774 WITH JUST FIVE WEEKS UNTIL THE MIDTERMS, THE WAR WITH IRAN IS 48 00:01:46,775 --> 00:01:48,432 MIDTERMS, THE WAR WITH IRAN IS LOOMING OVER THE ELECTIONS. 49 00:01:48,443 --> 00:01:50,678 LOOMING OVER THE ELECTIONS. UNPOPULAR WITH VOTERS AS RISING 50 00:01:50,712 --> 00:01:52,603 UNPOPULAR WITH VOTERS AS RISING ENERGY PRICES HIT AMERICANS AT 51 00:01:52,614 --> 00:01:52,913 ENERGY PRICES HIT AMERICANS AT HOME. 52 00:01:52,914 --> 00:01:54,638 HOME. NOW A NEW TURN IN THE WAR. 53 00:01:54,649 --> 00:01:57,017 NOW A NEW TURN IN THE WAR. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REJECTED 54 00:01:57,019 --> 00:01:59,554 PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REJECTED IRAN’S PROPOSAL FOR A SEVEN-DAY 55 00:01:59,588 --> 00:02:00,945 IRAN’S PROPOSAL FOR A SEVEN-DAY CEASEFIRE, A PLAN THAT WOULD 56 00:02:00,956 --> 00:02:02,891 CEASEFIRE, A PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE REOPENED THE STRAIT OF 57 00:02:02,925 --> 00:02:04,048 HAVE REOPENED THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND EZBLUMD NUCLEAR TALKS 58 00:02:04,059 --> 00:02:06,094 HORMUZ AND EZBLUMD NUCLEAR TALKS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE U.S. LIFTING 59 00:02:06,128 --> 00:02:08,186 IN EXCHANGE FOR THE U.S. LIFTING ITS NAVAL BLOCKADE. 60 00:02:08,197 --> 00:02:11,890 ITS NAVAL BLOCKADE. "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS 61 00:02:11,901 --> 00:02:12,590 "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS REPORTING THE PRESIDENT HAS 62 00:02:12,601 --> 00:02:16,003 REPORTING THE PRESIDENT HAS TOLD -- EXPECTS TO RESUME 63 00:02:16,004 --> 00:02:18,262 TOLD -- EXPECTS TO RESUME BOMBING IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERMS. 64 00:02:18,273 --> 00:02:20,641 BOMBING IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERMS. I WILL SPEAK WITH IRAN’S FOREIGN 65 00:02:20,642 --> 00:02:21,642 I WILL SPEAK WITH IRAN’S FOREIGN MINISTER ABBAS ARAGHCHI WHO 66 00:02:21,643 --> 00:02:22,209 MINISTER ABBAS ARAGHCHI WHO PROPOSED THAT PLAN. 67 00:02:22,244 --> 00:02:25,303 PROPOSED THAT PLAN. FIRST, JOINING ME IS THE U.S. 68 00:02:25,314 --> 00:02:25,937 FIRST, JOINING ME IS THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED 69 00:02:25,948 --> 00:02:27,205 AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS, MIKE WALTZ, AMBASSADOR 70 00:02:27,216 --> 00:02:28,073 NATIONS, MIKE WALTZ, AMBASSADOR WALTZ, WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE 71 00:02:28,084 --> 00:02:31,719 WALTZ, WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE PRESS." 72 00:02:31,754 --> 00:02:33,178 PRESS." >> THANK YOU, GOOD TO BE WITH 73 00:02:33,189 --> 00:02:33,488 >> THANK YOU, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. 74 00:02:33,522 --> 00:02:36,080 YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING 75 00:02:36,091 --> 00:02:36,357 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 76 00:02:36,358 --> 00:02:38,593 HERE. LET’S START RIGHT THERE WITH 77 00:02:38,627 --> 00:02:40,985 LET’S START RIGHT THERE WITH IRAN’S PROPOSED SEVEN-DAY 78 00:02:40,996 --> 00:02:42,730 IRAN’S PROPOSED SEVEN-DAY CEASEFIRE THAT WOULD HAVE OPENED 79 00:02:42,765 --> 00:02:44,022 CEASEFIRE THAT WOULD HAVE OPENED THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND 80 00:02:44,033 --> 00:02:45,357 THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND RESTARTED BROADER TALKS. 81 00:02:45,368 --> 00:02:46,424 RESTARTED BROADER TALKS. WHY DID THE U.S. TURN DOWN THIS 82 00:02:46,435 --> 00:02:52,096 WHY DID THE U.S. TURN DOWN THIS DEAL, MR. AMBASSADOR? 83 00:02:52,107 --> 00:02:54,309 DEAL, MR. AMBASSADOR? >> WELL, KRISTEN, LOOK, THERE IS 84 00:02:54,343 --> 00:02:59,571 >> WELL, KRISTEN, LOOK, THERE IS A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT WITH 85 00:02:59,582 --> 00:03:02,374 A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT WITH THIS OFFER CAME A REQUEST TO 86 00:03:02,385 --> 00:03:03,976 THIS OFFER CAME A REQUEST TO HAVE ACCESS TO BILLIONS IN 87 00:03:03,987 --> 00:03:06,354 HAVE ACCESS TO BILLIONS IN FROZEN FUNDS, CAME A REQUEST FOR 88 00:03:06,355 --> 00:03:08,313 FROZEN FUNDS, CAME A REQUEST FOR THE LIFTING OF SANCTIONS. 89 00:03:08,324 --> 00:03:11,082 THE LIFTING OF SANCTIONS. THESE AREN’T JUST THE UNITED 90 00:03:11,093 --> 00:03:11,659 THESE AREN’T JUST THE UNITED STATES’ SANCTIONS. 91 00:03:11,694 --> 00:03:14,162 STATES’ SANCTIONS. THESE ARE GLOBAL SANCTIONS. 92 00:03:14,163 --> 00:03:15,954 THESE ARE GLOBAL SANCTIONS. IT’S WORTH REMINDING PEOPLE, 93 00:03:15,965 --> 00:03:17,456 IT’S WORTH REMINDING PEOPLE, THIS ISN’T JUST THE U.S. 94 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:17,822 THIS ISN’T JUST THE U.S. POSITION. 95 00:03:17,833 --> 00:03:20,168 POSITION. THIS IS THE WORLD’S POSITION. 96 00:03:20,203 --> 00:03:24,263 THIS IS THE WORLD’S POSITION. THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE, NOT TWO, 97 00:03:24,274 --> 00:03:26,007 THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT SEVEN U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL 98 00:03:26,008 --> 00:03:27,675 BUT SEVEN U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS OVER THE LAST 20 99 00:03:27,677 --> 00:03:29,835 RESOLUTIONS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS SAYING IRAN CANNOT, SHOULD 100 00:03:29,846 --> 00:03:34,649 YEARS SAYING IRAN CANNOT, SHOULD NOT, AND WILL NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR 101 00:03:34,684 --> 00:03:36,441 NOT, AND WILL NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM, CANNOT ENRICH 102 00:03:36,452 --> 00:03:37,910 WEAPONS PROGRAM, CANNOT ENRICH ILLEGALLY, DOES NOT HAVE AN 103 00:03:37,921 --> 00:03:39,754 ILLEGALLY, DOES NOT HAVE AN APPROPRIATE INSPECTIONS REGIME 104 00:03:39,789 --> 00:03:44,192 APPROPRIATE INSPECTIONS REGIME LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES, FOR 105 00:03:44,193 --> 00:03:48,853 LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES, FOR EXAMPLE THE KRAEB UNITED ARAB EM 106 00:03:48,864 --> 00:03:49,597 EXAMPLE THE KRAEB UNITED ARAB EM THAT ALLOWS INSPECTIONS AND THEN 107 00:03:49,632 --> 00:03:50,832 THAT ALLOWS INSPECTIONS AND THEN EVEN FURTHER YOU HAVE THE IAEA, 108 00:03:50,833 --> 00:03:53,134 EVEN FURTHER YOU HAVE THE IAEA, THE NUCLEAR WATCHDOG FOR THE 109 00:03:53,136 --> 00:03:55,294 THE NUCLEAR WATCHDOG FOR THE U.N., THEIR BOARD OF GOV NERS 110 00:03:55,305 --> 00:03:57,663 U.N., THEIR BOARD OF GOV NERS JUST REFERRED IRANIAN-IRAN TO 111 00:03:57,674 --> 00:03:58,373 JUST REFERRED IRANIAN-IRAN TO THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL LAST 112 00:03:58,408 --> 00:04:02,444 THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK FOR VIOLATIONS NOT ALLOWING 113 00:04:02,445 --> 00:04:03,211 WEEK FOR VIOLATIONS NOT ALLOWING INSPECTORS, NOT ALLOWING 114 00:04:03,213 --> 00:04:04,637 INSPECTORS, NOT ALLOWING APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT OF THEIR 115 00:04:04,648 --> 00:04:05,046 APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT OF THEIR ENRICHMENT. 116 00:04:05,048 --> 00:04:09,542 ENRICHMENT. SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOU ASK 117 00:04:09,553 --> 00:04:10,275 SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOU ASK THE FOREIGN MINISTER WHY DOES 118 00:04:10,286 --> 00:04:11,587 THE FOREIGN MINISTER WHY DOES IRAN NEED TO ENRICH TO 60%, 119 00:04:11,621 --> 00:04:14,279 IRAN NEED TO ENRICH TO 60%, WHICH IS A PATHWAY TO A BOMB, 120 00:04:14,290 --> 00:04:18,193 WHICH IS A PATHWAY TO A BOMB, WHY DO THEY NEED TO BURY A 121 00:04:18,228 --> 00:04:19,185 WHY DO THEY NEED TO BURY A PROGRAM UNDER FOUR DIFFERENT 122 00:04:19,196 --> 00:04:19,528 PROGRAM UNDER FOUR DIFFERENT SITES. 123 00:04:19,562 --> 00:04:22,330 SITES. WHY, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY 124 00:04:22,332 --> 00:04:23,088 WHY, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY ATTACKING INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING 125 00:04:23,099 --> 00:04:24,033 ATTACKING INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING AND FINALLY IT’S WORTH NOTING, 126 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:25,658 AND FINALLY IT’S WORTH NOTING, BECAUSE AGAIN HE IS GOING TO 127 00:04:25,669 --> 00:04:27,970 BECAUSE AGAIN HE IS GOING TO FRAME THIS AS THE U.S. VERSUS 128 00:04:27,971 --> 00:04:32,498 FRAME THIS AS THE U.S. VERSUS IRAN OR IRAN VERSUS ISRAEL. 129 00:04:32,509 --> 00:04:33,909 IRAN OR IRAN VERSUS ISRAEL. 146 COUNTRIES HAVE JOINED US, A 130 00:04:33,944 --> 00:04:35,835 146 COUNTRIES HAVE JOINED US, A U.N. RECORD, IN CONDEMNING 131 00:04:35,846 --> 00:04:39,104 U.N. RECORD, IN CONDEMNING IRAN’S ATTACK ON CIVILIAN 132 00:04:39,115 --> 00:04:39,481 IRAN’S ATTACK ON CIVILIAN SHIPPING. 133 00:04:39,482 --> 00:04:40,272 SHIPPING. YOU CAN’T START SHOOTING AT 134 00:04:40,283 --> 00:04:42,751 YOU CAN’T START SHOOTING AT CIVILIAN SHIPPING ANY MORE THAN 135 00:04:42,786 --> 00:04:44,253 CIVILIAN SHIPPING ANY MORE THAN YOU SHOOT DOWN CIVILIAN 136 00:04:44,254 --> 00:04:44,944 YOU SHOOT DOWN CIVILIAN AIRLINERS BECAUSE YOU ARE A 137 00:04:44,955 --> 00:04:47,113 AIRLINERS BECAUSE YOU ARE A PARTY TO A CONFLICT. 138 00:04:47,124 --> 00:04:50,125 PARTY TO A CONFLICT. IRAN IS JUST BEING CONDEMNED BY 139 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,618 IRAN IS JUST BEING CONDEMNED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD AND THEY ARE IN 140 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:54,363 THE ENTIRE WORLD AND THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW 141 00:04:54,398 --> 00:04:54,921 VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW ACROSS THE BOARD. 142 00:04:54,932 --> 00:04:55,998 ACROSS THE BOARD. >> WELL, MR. AMBASSADOR, I HAVE 143 00:04:55,999 --> 00:04:57,433 >> WELL, MR. AMBASSADOR, I HAVE A RANGE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE 144 00:04:57,467 --> 00:04:58,767 A RANGE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE FOREIGN MINISTER, BUT I WANT TO 145 00:04:58,769 --> 00:05:00,727 FOREIGN MINISTER, BUT I WANT TO GET BOOK TO THIS DEAL IN JUNE 146 00:05:00,738 --> 00:05:02,271 GET BOOK TO THIS DEAL IN JUNE THE U.S. AND IRAN SIGNED A 147 00:05:02,306 --> 00:05:03,973 THE U.S. AND IRAN SIGNED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT 148 00:05:03,974 --> 00:05:06,108 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS DEAL, TRADED 149 00:05:06,109 --> 00:05:08,601 WAS SIMILAR TO THIS DEAL, TRADED EASING SANCTIONS AND LIFTING THE 150 00:05:08,612 --> 00:05:11,304 EASING SANCTIONS AND LIFTING THE NAVAL BLOCKADE IN EXCHANGE FOR 151 00:05:11,315 --> 00:05:12,315 NAVAL BLOCKADE IN EXCHANGE FOR OPENING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND 152 00:05:12,316 --> 00:05:12,839 OPENING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND NUCLEAR TALKS. 153 00:05:12,850 --> 00:05:14,150 NUCLEAR TALKS. IF THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT 154 00:05:14,184 --> 00:05:16,118 IF THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT THIS DEAL, THINKS IT ISN’T GOOD 155 00:05:16,119 --> 00:05:16,842 THIS DEAL, THINKS IT ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH, WHAT DEAL DOES HE WANT? 156 00:05:16,853 --> 00:05:20,613 ENOUGH, WHAT DEAL DOES HE WANT? WHAT WOULD HE ACCEPT? 157 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:23,392 WHAT WOULD HE ACCEPT? >> WELL, I AM NOT GOING TO 158 00:05:23,427 --> 00:05:25,018 >> WELL, I AM NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE IN PUBLIC FOR THE 159 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:25,451 NEGOTIATE IN PUBLIC FOR THE PRESIDENT. 160 00:05:25,462 --> 00:05:27,463 PRESIDENT. BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW, NUMBER ONE, 161 00:05:27,498 --> 00:05:29,990 BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW, NUMBER ONE, THE PEOPLE COMING TO THE TABLE 162 00:05:30,001 --> 00:05:32,792 THE PEOPLE COMING TO THE TABLE CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR THE 163 00:05:32,803 --> 00:05:35,838 CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR THE AYATOLLAH, AND THAT HAS BEEN A 164 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,208 AYATOLLAH, AND THAT HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT ISSUE THAT FRUSTRATED 165 00:05:39,209 --> 00:05:39,699 CONSISTENT ISSUE THAT FRUSTRATED OUR NEGOTIATORS. 166 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:41,134 OUR NEGOTIATORS. WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS IN IRAN 167 00:05:41,145 --> 00:05:42,068 WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS IN IRAN RIGHT NOW? 168 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:44,447 RIGHT NOW? IS IT THE IRGC, IS IT THE 169 00:05:44,448 --> 00:05:45,915 IS IT THE IRGC, IS IT THE PRESIDENT, IS IT THE FOREIGN 170 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:46,473 PRESIDENT, IS IT THE FOREIGN MINISTER? 171 00:05:46,484 --> 00:05:48,041 MINISTER? ULTIMATELY, WE KNOW IT’S THE 172 00:05:48,052 --> 00:05:49,486 ULTIMATELY, WE KNOW IT’S THE AYATOLLAH, BUT WHEN WE FINALLY 173 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,478 AYATOLLAH, BUT WHEN WE FINALLY HAD AN MOU AND OF COURSE THE 174 00:05:51,489 --> 00:05:53,089 HAD AN MOU AND OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT WANTS A DEAL AND 175 00:05:53,123 --> 00:05:55,781 PRESIDENT WANTS A DEAL AND AUTHORIZED US TO ENTER INTO THAT 176 00:05:55,792 --> 00:05:58,327 AUTHORIZED US TO ENTER INTO THAT MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, IRAN 177 00:05:58,362 --> 00:06:00,563 MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, IRAN IMMEDIATELY BEGAN SHOOTING AT 178 00:06:00,564 --> 00:06:01,821 IMMEDIATELY BEGAN SHOOTING AT INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING BECAUSE 179 00:06:01,832 --> 00:06:03,489 INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING BECAUSE ILLEGALLY AND IN VIOLATION OF 180 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:05,735 ILLEGALLY AND IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW IT’S DEMANDING 181 00:06:05,770 --> 00:06:07,170 INTERNATIONAL LAW IT’S DEMANDING TO TRY TO CONTROL THE STRAIT OF 182 00:06:07,171 --> 00:06:09,229 TO TRY TO CONTROL THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ THROUGH VIOLENCE AND HAS 183 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,665 HORMUZ THROUGH VIOLENCE AND HAS TAKEN A POSITION OF PUNISHING 184 00:06:11,676 --> 00:06:14,268 TAKEN A POSITION OF PUNISHING THE ENTIRE WORLD’S ECONOMY 185 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,646 THE ENTIRE WORLD’S ECONOMY BECAUSE OF ITS PURSUIT FOR A 186 00:06:16,647 --> 00:06:17,337 BECAUSE OF ITS PURSUIT FOR A NUCLEAR WEAPON, PRESIDENT 187 00:06:17,348 --> 00:06:18,805 NUCLEAR WEAPON, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S NOT GOING TO STAND FOR 188 00:06:18,816 --> 00:06:19,049 TRUMP’S NOT GOING TO STAND FOR IT. 189 00:06:19,083 --> 00:06:20,450 IT. >> THE U.S. IS NEGOTIATING WITH 190 00:06:20,451 --> 00:06:22,752 >> THE U.S. IS NEGOTIATING WITH THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE IN 191 00:06:22,753 --> 00:06:23,276 THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE IN JUNE. 192 00:06:23,287 --> 00:06:25,178 JUNE. SO WHY NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH 193 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:30,817 SO WHY NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEAL AND GIVE A CEASEFIRE A 194 00:06:30,828 --> 00:06:31,528 THIS DEAL AND GIVE A CEASEFIRE A CHANCE, MR. AMBASSADOR? 195 00:06:31,562 --> 00:06:32,962 CHANCE, MR. AMBASSADOR? >> WELL, LOOK, KRISTEN, AS I -- 196 00:06:32,964 --> 00:06:35,222 >> WELL, LOOK, KRISTEN, AS I -- THIS WAS, I THINK, A PRETTY 197 00:06:35,233 --> 00:06:36,332 THIS WAS, I THINK, A PRETTY CYNICAL ATTEMPT TO PUT SOMETHING 198 00:06:36,367 --> 00:06:37,100 CYNICAL ATTEMPT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE TABLE THAT THEY KNEW WAS 199 00:06:37,101 --> 00:06:40,694 ON THE TABLE THAT THEY KNEW WAS UNACCEPTABLE. 200 00:06:40,705 --> 00:06:44,431 UNACCEPTABLE. TO ASK FOR THE RELEASE OF THE 201 00:06:44,442 --> 00:06:46,000 TO ASK FOR THE RELEASE OF THE BLOCKADE, THE SANCTIONS, 202 00:06:46,011 --> 00:06:49,379 BLOCKADE, THE SANCTIONS, INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS, AND 203 00:06:49,414 --> 00:06:51,415 INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS, AND ACCESS TO BILLIONS IN ASSETS 204 00:06:51,416 --> 00:06:53,574 ACCESS TO BILLIONS IN ASSETS JUST TO TALK WHEN WE ENTERED 205 00:06:53,585 --> 00:06:55,075 JUST TO TALK WHEN WE ENTERED INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT A 206 00:06:55,086 --> 00:06:56,386 INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT A FEW MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS 207 00:06:56,387 --> 00:06:58,645 FEW MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS IMMEDIATELY VIOLATED BY 208 00:06:58,656 --> 00:06:59,289 IMMEDIATELY VIOLATED BY ATTACKING INTERNATIONAL 209 00:06:59,324 --> 00:07:00,281 ATTACKING INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING, YOU THINK IT’S COMMON 210 00:07:00,292 --> 00:07:01,548 SHIPPING, YOU THINK IT’S COMMON SENSE THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T 211 00:07:01,559 --> 00:07:03,494 SENSE THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THIS 212 00:07:03,528 --> 00:07:05,386 HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THIS TIME AFTER WE JUST TRIED A FEW 213 00:07:05,397 --> 00:07:07,397 TIME AFTER WE JUST TRIED A FEW MONTHS AGO. 214 00:07:07,398 --> 00:07:09,356 MONTHS AGO. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OF 215 00:07:09,367 --> 00:07:11,225 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT -- THIS HAS 216 00:07:11,236 --> 00:07:13,871 COURSE THE PRESIDENT -- THIS HAS TO END IN SOME TIECH OF 217 00:07:13,905 --> 00:07:14,328 TO END IN SOME TIECH OF ARRANGEMENT. 218 00:07:14,339 --> 00:07:15,062 ARRANGEMENT. HE IS GOING TO LEAVE ALL OPTIONS 219 00:07:15,073 --> 00:07:15,705 HE IS GOING TO LEAVE ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE TO GET THERE. 220 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:16,797 ON THE TABLE TO GET THERE. >> "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" TO 221 00:07:16,808 --> 00:07:18,766 >> "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" TO THIS POINT IS REPORTING THAT 222 00:07:18,777 --> 00:07:20,210 THIS POINT IS REPORTING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PREPARING TO 223 00:07:20,245 --> 00:07:21,302 PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PREPARING TO RESUME MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST 224 00:07:21,313 --> 00:07:22,102 RESUME MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERMS. 225 00:07:22,113 --> 00:07:22,536 IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERMS. IS THAT TRUE? 226 00:07:22,547 --> 00:07:28,809 IS THAT TRUE? CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? 227 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:30,120 CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? >> WELL, THAT’S ANONYMOUS 228 00:07:30,121 --> 00:07:30,544 >> WELL, THAT’S ANONYMOUS REPORTING. 229 00:07:30,555 --> 00:07:31,578 REPORTING. I CAN TELL YOU THE PRESIDENT 230 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:32,589 I CAN TELL YOU THE PRESIDENT WILL LEAVE ALL OPTIONS ON THE 231 00:07:32,624 --> 00:07:34,482 WILL LEAVE ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE TO ENSURE THE WORLD IS 232 00:07:34,493 --> 00:07:36,860 TABLE TO ENSURE THE WORLD IS SAFE FROM IRAN HOLDING THE WORLD 233 00:07:36,861 --> 00:07:38,895 SAFE FROM IRAN HOLDING THE WORLD HOSTAGE WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON. 234 00:07:38,930 --> 00:07:39,353 HOSTAGE WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON. NUMBER ONE. 235 00:07:39,364 --> 00:07:41,222 NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, HE WAS QUITE CLEAR 236 00:07:41,233 --> 00:07:43,367 NUMBER TWO, HE WAS QUITE CLEAR IN HIS SPEECH BEFORE THE U.N. 237 00:07:43,368 --> 00:07:45,092 IN HIS SPEECH BEFORE THE U.N. THAT POLITICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO 238 00:07:45,103 --> 00:07:45,960 THAT POLITICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 239 00:07:45,971 --> 00:07:49,464 WITH THIS. THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING THE NEXT 240 00:07:49,475 --> 00:07:51,942 THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING THE NEXT GENERATION SAFE FROM IRAN 241 00:07:51,977 --> 00:07:54,769 GENERATION SAFE FROM IRAN THREATENING THE WORLD WITH A 242 00:07:54,780 --> 00:07:57,472 THREATENING THE WORLD WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON OR BUILDING SUCH 243 00:07:57,483 --> 00:07:59,483 NUCLEAR WEAPON OR BUILDING SUCH A MOUNTAIN OF CONVENTIONAL 244 00:07:59,484 --> 00:08:01,151 A MOUNTAIN OF CONVENTIONAL SHIELD OF DRONES AND MISSILES 245 00:08:01,153 --> 00:08:02,777 SHIELD OF DRONES AND MISSILES THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE BREAKOUT 246 00:08:02,788 --> 00:08:05,380 THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE BREAKOUT IN THESE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES 247 00:08:05,391 --> 00:08:06,313 IN THESE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES BEHIND THAT SHIELD. 248 00:08:06,324 --> 00:08:08,082 BEHIND THAT SHIELD. THIS IS A REGIME THAT HAS 249 00:08:08,093 --> 00:08:11,662 THIS IS A REGIME THAT HAS ATTACKED ITS NEIGHBORS ON ALL 250 00:08:11,697 --> 00:08:12,387 ATTACKED ITS NEIGHBORS ON ALL SIDES, INCLUDING CIVILIAN 251 00:08:12,398 --> 00:08:14,989 SIDES, INCLUDING CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, RESORTS, PORTS, 252 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,858 INFRASTRUCTURE, RESORTS, PORTS, HOTELS AND IT’S JUST COMPLETELY 253 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:17,424 HOTELS AND IT’S JUST COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. 254 00:08:17,435 --> 00:08:18,369 UNACCEPTABLE. >> AMBASSADOR WALTZ, TO THAT 255 00:08:18,403 --> 00:08:19,293 >> AMBASSADOR WALTZ, TO THAT POINT, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS 256 00:08:19,304 --> 00:08:21,128 POINT, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ADVISORS SAID THAT THE OBJECTIVE 257 00:08:21,139 --> 00:08:23,140 ADVISORS SAID THAT THE OBJECTIVE IN THE WAR IS THAT IRAN CANNOT 258 00:08:23,175 --> 00:08:25,033 IN THE WAR IS THAT IRAN CANNOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON AS YOU ARE 259 00:08:25,044 --> 00:08:25,877 HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON AS YOU ARE REPEATING HERE. 260 00:08:25,911 --> 00:08:28,035 REPEATING HERE. I WANT TO PLAY WHAT WE HEARD 261 00:08:28,046 --> 00:08:28,746 I WANT TO PLAY WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT SINCE THE WAR 262 00:08:28,781 --> 00:08:29,204 FROM THE PRESIDENT SINCE THE WAR HAS STARTED. 263 00:08:29,215 --> 00:08:32,316 HAS STARTED. TAKE A LOOK. 264 00:08:32,317 --> 00:08:34,618 TAKE A LOOK. >> WE BLEW UP THEIR NUCLEAR 265 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:35,110 >> WE BLEW UP THEIR NUCLEAR POTENTIAL. 266 00:08:35,121 --> 00:08:37,144 POTENTIAL. IT WAS OBLITERATED. 267 00:08:37,155 --> 00:08:39,123 IT WAS OBLITERATED. WE ATTACKED TEN MONTHS AGO, 268 00:08:39,124 --> 00:08:40,915 WE ATTACKED TEN MONTHS AGO, ATTACKED THEIR NUCLEAR SITES AND 269 00:08:40,926 --> 00:08:42,960 ATTACKED THEIR NUCLEAR SITES AND THEY WERE OBLITERATED. 270 00:08:42,995 --> 00:08:46,354 THEY WERE OBLITERATED. WIPED OUT THE MILITARY OF A VERY 271 00:08:46,365 --> 00:08:47,923 WIPED OUT THE MILITARY OF A VERY DANGEROUS COUNTRY AND I WIPED 272 00:08:47,934 --> 00:08:49,367 DANGEROUS COUNTRY AND I WIPED OUT THE NUCLEAR THREAT. 273 00:08:49,401 --> 00:08:51,092 OUT THE NUCLEAR THREAT. >> SO THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID 274 00:08:51,103 --> 00:08:52,837 >> SO THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IRAN’S 275 00:08:52,838 --> 00:08:55,530 MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IRAN’S NUCLEAR POTENTIAL IS DESTROYED. 276 00:08:55,541 --> 00:08:56,307 NUCLEAR POTENTIAL IS DESTROYED. IF THAT’S THE CASE, WHAT IS LEFT 277 00:08:56,308 --> 00:09:00,535 IF THAT’S THE CASE, WHAT IS LEFT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS THIS WAR?=E&N 278 00:09:00,546 --> 00:09:05,216 TO ACCOMPLISH THIS THIS WAR?=E&N >> WELL, WE KNOW THAT WE 279 00:09:05,217 --> 00:09:06,541 >> WELL, WE KNOW THAT WE OBLITERATED THEIR ABILITY TO 280 00:09:06,552 --> 00:09:07,575 OBLITERATED THEIR ABILITY TO ENRICH IN A NUMBER OF THESE 281 00:09:07,586 --> 00:09:09,020 ENRICH IN A NUMBER OF THESE FACILITIES, BUT WE ALSO KNOW 282 00:09:09,054 --> 00:09:12,680 FACILITIES, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THEY MOVED AND DISPERSED 283 00:09:12,691 --> 00:09:14,325 THAT THEY MOVED AND DISPERSED HIGHLY ENRICHED YOU ARE URANIUM. 284 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,951 HIGHLY ENRICHED YOU ARE URANIUM. THERE IS NO REASON, NO COUNTRY 285 00:09:15,962 --> 00:09:18,162 THERE IS NO REASON, NO COUNTRY ON EARTH WITH A PEACEFUL 286 00:09:18,164 --> 00:09:21,223 ON EARTH WITH A PEACEFUL CIVILIAN PROGRAM HAS A NEED TO 287 00:09:21,234 --> 00:09:22,924 CIVILIAN PROGRAM HAS A NEED TO ENRICH, TO WEAPONS GRADE OR JUST 288 00:09:22,935 --> 00:09:24,669 ENRICH, TO WEAPONS GRADE OR JUST SHORT OF WEAPONS GRADE. 289 00:09:24,670 --> 00:09:28,563 SHORT OF WEAPONS GRADE. SO THEY STILL HAVE THAT HIDDEN 290 00:09:28,574 --> 00:09:28,830 SO THEY STILL HAVE THAT HIDDEN -- 291 00:09:28,841 --> 00:09:30,241 -- >> WHAT IS LEFT -- 292 00:09:30,243 --> 00:09:31,643 >> WHAT IS LEFT -- >> THERE IS NOT -- 293 00:09:31,644 --> 00:09:32,100 >> THERE IS NOT -- >> BUT THEY -- 294 00:09:32,111 --> 00:09:33,278 >> BUT THEY -- >> THEY ARE NOT BEING 295 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:35,347 >> THEY ARE NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT. 296 00:09:35,381 --> 00:09:35,971 ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT. >> IS REGIME CHANGE -- 297 00:09:35,982 --> 00:09:37,206 >> IS REGIME CHANGE -- >> I AM SORRY? 298 00:09:37,217 --> 00:09:40,018 >> I AM SORRY? >> NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT 299 00:09:40,052 --> 00:09:40,575 >> NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU ARE GOING FOR? 300 00:09:40,586 --> 00:09:42,110 YOU ARE GOING FOR? WHAT IS THERE LEFT TO ACCOMPLISH 301 00:09:42,121 --> 00:09:44,389 WHAT IS THERE LEFT TO ACCOMPLISH AND IS REGIME CHANGE NECESSARY 302 00:09:44,390 --> 00:09:44,756 AND IS REGIME CHANGE NECESSARY TO DO IT? 303 00:09:44,791 --> 00:09:46,558 TO DO IT? >> LOOK, I MEAN, THE REGIME CAN 304 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,819 >> LOOK, I MEAN, THE REGIME CAN COME TO THE TABLE AND END -- IN 305 00:09:50,830 --> 00:09:51,530 COME TO THE TABLE AND END -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL 306 00:09:51,564 --> 00:09:54,322 ACCORDANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW AND THEIR OBLIGATIONS IN THE 307 00:09:54,333 --> 00:09:57,402 LAW AND THEIR OBLIGATIONS IN THE NOT -- NONPROLIFERATION TREATY 308 00:09:57,403 --> 00:09:58,603 NOT -- NONPROLIFERATION TREATY AND EITHER HAND OVER -- I MEAN, 309 00:09:58,604 --> 00:10:00,872 AND EITHER HAND OVER -- I MEAN, THERE IS A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT 310 00:10:00,907 --> 00:10:02,674 THERE IS A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THERE AND PRESIDENT 311 00:10:02,675 --> 00:10:06,635 WE CAN GET THERE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS OPEN TO THAT AND DEAL 312 00:10:06,646 --> 00:10:08,013 TRUMP IS OPEN TO THAT AND DEAL WITH A HIGHLY ENRICHED, THEIR 313 00:10:08,014 --> 00:10:09,948 WITH A HIGHLY ENRICHED, THEIR ABILITY TO RECONSTITUTE THEIR 314 00:10:09,983 --> 00:10:10,773 ABILITY TO RECONSTITUTE THEIR ENRICHMENT. 315 00:10:10,784 --> 00:10:12,917 ENRICHMENT. HECK, OUR NEGOTIATORS EVEN 316 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:15,387 HECK, OUR NEGOTIATORS EVEN OFFERED TO SELL THEM YOU ARE 317 00:10:15,388 --> 00:10:15,744 OFFERED TO SELL THEM YOU ARE URANIUM. 318 00:10:15,755 --> 00:10:17,256 URANIUM. AGAIN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 319 00:10:17,290 --> 00:10:19,248 AGAIN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES HAVE A PEACEFUL PROGRAM RIGHT 320 00:10:19,259 --> 00:10:20,392 HAVE A PEACEFUL PROGRAM RIGHT THERE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND 321 00:10:20,427 --> 00:10:22,652 THERE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW 322 00:10:22,663 --> 00:10:24,320 THEY ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW AND INSPECTION REGIMES. 323 00:10:24,331 --> 00:10:25,363 AND INSPECTION REGIMES. THE IRANIANS REFUSE TO AS STATED 324 00:10:25,398 --> 00:10:30,058 THE IRANIANS REFUSE TO AS STATED BY THE U.N. JUST A WEEK AGO. 325 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:32,905 BY THE U.N. JUST A WEEK AGO. SO THIS IS -- I THINK THE FACTS 326 00:10:32,939 --> 00:10:33,896 SO THIS IS -- I THINK THE FACTS ARE OBVIOUS HERE. 327 00:10:33,907 --> 00:10:34,907 ARE OBVIOUS HERE. >> ALL RIGHT. 328 00:10:34,908 --> 00:10:36,265 >> ALL RIGHT. >> BY THE WAY, I HOPE THAT YOU 329 00:10:36,276 --> 00:10:37,576 >> BY THE WAY, I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO ASK THE FOREIGN MINISTER 330 00:10:37,611 --> 00:10:39,712 ALSO ASK THE FOREIGN MINISTER ABOUT THE 40,000 OF THEIR OWN 331 00:10:39,713 --> 00:10:40,913 ABOUT THE 40,000 OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE THAT WERE MACHINE GUNNED 332 00:10:40,914 --> 00:10:42,705 PEOPLE THAT WERE MACHINE GUNNED IN THE STREETS AND THE PEOPLE 333 00:10:42,716 --> 00:10:46,018 IN THE STREETS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HUNG RIGHT NOW AS 334 00:10:46,019 --> 00:10:49,445 THAT ARE BEING HUNG RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK AGAIN CONDEMNED BY THE 335 00:10:49,456 --> 00:10:50,856 WE SPEAK AGAIN CONDEMNED BY THE WORLD FOR MASSACRING THEIR OWN 336 00:10:50,857 --> 00:10:51,180 WORLD FOR MASSACRING THEIR OWN PEOPLE. 337 00:10:51,191 --> 00:10:54,851 PEOPLE. >> I WANT TO TURN TO THE STATE 338 00:10:54,862 --> 00:10:56,495 >> I WANT TO TURN TO THE STATE VISIT WITH PRESIDENT XI JINPING. 339 00:10:56,530 --> 00:11:02,168 VISIT WITH PRESIDENT XI JINPING. THERE ARE REPORTS THAT CHINA IS 340 00:11:02,169 --> 00:11:03,169 THERE ARE REPORTS THAT CHINA IS ACTIVELY SUPPORTING IRAN THROUGH 341 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:04,794 ACTIVELY SUPPORTING IRAN THROUGH OIL SALES, SATELLITE IMAGERY AND 342 00:11:04,805 --> 00:11:05,070 OIL SALES, SATELLITE IMAGERY AND MORE. 343 00:11:05,072 --> 00:11:05,762 MORE. YES OR NO, DOES THE UNITED 344 00:11:05,773 --> 00:11:06,462 YES OR NO, DOES THE UNITED STATES BELIEVE THAT CHINA IS 345 00:11:06,473 --> 00:11:11,577 STATES BELIEVE THAT CHINA IS HELPING IRAN IN THIS WAR? 346 00:11:11,578 --> 00:11:13,469 HELPING IRAN IN THIS WAR? >> PRESIDENT TRUMP -- I WON’T 347 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,348 >> PRESIDENT TRUMP -- I WON’T GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE 348 00:11:15,382 --> 00:11:15,872 GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE CONVERSATION. 349 00:11:15,883 --> 00:11:16,705 CONVERSATION. PRESIDENT TRUMP RAISED THIS 350 00:11:16,716 --> 00:11:19,018 PRESIDENT TRUMP RAISED THIS ISSUE REPEATEDLY BOTH IN 351 00:11:19,052 --> 00:11:22,888 ISSUE REPEATEDLY BOTH IN BEIJING, HERE IN THE UNITED 352 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:25,815 BEIJING, HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WE ARE SEEING 353 00:11:25,826 --> 00:11:26,382 STATES, AND WE ARE SEEING MOVEMENT IN A POSITIVE 354 00:11:26,393 --> 00:11:26,792 MOVEMENT IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. 355 00:11:26,793 --> 00:11:27,559 DIRECTION. IT’S ALSO NOTABLE THAT EVEN 356 00:11:27,594 --> 00:11:29,995 IT’S ALSO NOTABLE THAT EVEN PRESIDENT XI STATED IN OUR JOINT 357 00:11:29,997 --> 00:11:32,322 PRESIDENT XI STATED IN OUR JOINT READOUT FROM THE SUMMIT IRAN CAN 358 00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:34,433 READOUT FROM THE SUMMIT IRAN CAN TO THE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE A 359 00:11:34,468 --> 00:11:37,226 TO THE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON AND CANNOT TOLL 360 00:11:37,237 --> 00:11:39,639 NUCLEAR WEAPON AND CANNOT TOLL INTERNATIONAL WATERWAYS IN 361 00:11:39,673 --> 00:11:40,429 INTERNATIONAL WATERWAYS IN VIOLATION OF THE U.N. LAW OF THE 362 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,199 VIOLATION OF THE U.N. LAW OF THE SEA AND CERTAINLY CANNOT FIRE 363 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:44,410 SEA AND CERTAINLY CANNOT FIRE UPON INNOCENT CIVILIAN SHIPPING. 364 00:11:44,411 --> 00:11:46,903 UPON INNOCENT CIVILIAN SHIPPING. THAT’S FROM PRESIDENT XI, NOT 365 00:11:46,914 --> 00:11:47,404 THAT’S FROM PRESIDENT XI, NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP. 366 00:11:47,415 --> 00:11:49,105 PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> DID PRESIDENT XI COMMIT TO 367 00:11:49,116 --> 00:11:49,983 >> DID PRESIDENT XI COMMIT TO STOP CHINA’S SUPPORT OF IRAN 368 00:11:50,017 --> 00:11:55,278 STOP CHINA’S SUPPORT OF IRAN WITH THIS WAR? 369 00:11:55,289 --> 00:11:57,981 WITH THIS WAR? >> THEY HAVE HAD GOOD STRONG AND 370 00:11:57,992 --> 00:12:00,317 >> THEY HAVE HAD GOOD STRONG AND I THINK FULL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 371 00:12:00,328 --> 00:12:00,993 I THINK FULL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT SUPPORT. 372 00:12:00,995 --> 00:12:02,786 THAT SUPPORT. BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE 373 00:12:02,797 --> 00:12:04,754 BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE PRESIDENT TO DETAIL ANY 374 00:12:04,765 --> 00:12:05,899 PRESIDENT TO DETAIL ANY CONVERSATIONS HE’S HAD. 375 00:12:05,933 --> 00:12:06,356 CONVERSATIONS HE’S HAD. >> ALL RIGHT. 376 00:12:06,367 --> 00:12:08,100 >> ALL RIGHT. AMBASSADOR WALTZ, THANK YOU SO 377 00:12:08,135 --> 00:12:08,501 AMBASSADOR WALTZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 378 00:12:08,502 --> 00:12:09,826 MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. 379 00:12:09,837 --> 00:12:10,460 APPRECIATE IT. ZWROIJ ME IS THE FOREIGN 380 00:12:10,471 --> 00:12:12,029 ZWROIJ ME IS THE FOREIGN MINISTER OF IRAN, ABBAS 381 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,405 MINISTER OF IRAN, ABBAS ARAGHCHI. 382 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,163 ARAGHCHI. MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, WELCOME 383 00:12:13,174 --> 00:12:17,510 MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE PRESS." 384 00:12:17,545 --> 00:12:18,969 BACK TO "MEET THE PRESS." >> GOOD MORNING, KRISTEN. 385 00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:20,914 >> GOOD MORNING, KRISTEN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN YOUR 386 00:12:20,948 --> 00:12:21,314 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN YOUR PROGRAM. 387 00:12:21,315 --> 00:12:22,939 PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING 388 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:23,773 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 389 00:12:23,784 --> 00:12:25,518 HERE. LET’S START RIGHT THERE WITH 390 00:12:25,553 --> 00:12:28,345 LET’S START RIGHT THERE WITH YOUR SEVEN-DAY CEASEFIRE 391 00:12:28,356 --> 00:12:28,755 YOUR SEVEN-DAY CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL. 392 00:12:28,756 --> 00:12:29,646 PROPOSAL. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REJECTED IT. 393 00:12:29,657 --> 00:12:34,351 PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REJECTED IT. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? 394 00:12:34,362 --> 00:12:38,765 WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME 395 00:12:38,766 --> 00:12:40,357 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT I AM -- IT’S VERY 396 00:12:40,368 --> 00:12:42,669 SAY THAT I AM -- IT’S VERY INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO 397 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:44,194 INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO AMBASSADOR, U.S. AMBASSADOR WHO 398 00:12:44,205 --> 00:12:46,907 AMBASSADOR, U.S. AMBASSADOR WHO IS DESPERATELY GOING BACK TO OLD 399 00:12:46,941 --> 00:12:49,466 IS DESPERATELY GOING BACK TO OLD UNPROVED ACCUSATIONS IN ORDER TO 400 00:12:49,477 --> 00:12:51,144 UNPROVED ACCUSATIONS IN ORDER TO ANSWER A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION 401 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:54,004 ANSWER A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION THAT WHY THEY ARE REJECTING A 402 00:12:54,015 --> 00:12:56,616 THAT WHY THEY ARE REJECTING A SEVEN-DAY PLAN, A SEVEN-DAY PLAN 403 00:12:56,651 --> 00:12:58,809 SEVEN-DAY PLAN, A SEVEN-DAY PLAN WHICH CAN BRING THE LIFE BACK TO 404 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:01,521 WHICH CAN BRING THE LIFE BACK TO NORMAL IN THE PERSIAN GULF AND 405 00:13:01,556 --> 00:13:02,446 NORMAL IN THE PERSIAN GULF AND THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. 406 00:13:02,457 --> 00:13:04,291 THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. WHY THEY ARE REJECTING THIS, 407 00:13:04,292 --> 00:13:05,916 WHY THEY ARE REJECTING THIS, THIS IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, 408 00:13:05,927 --> 00:13:06,583 THIS IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT THEY 409 00:13:06,594 --> 00:13:09,996 IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT THEY HAVE TO ANSWER. 410 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:12,099 HAVE TO ANSWER. ALSO I AM SURPRISED THAT THE 411 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:21,642 ALSO I AM SURPRISED THAT THE AMBASSADOR IS TALKING ABOUT 412 00:13:21,676 --> 00:13:22,609 AMBASSADOR IS TALKING ABOUT SEVEN-DAY PLAN AS HE HAS NOT 413 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:22,976 SEVEN-DAY PLAN AS HE HAS NOT READ IT. 414 00:13:22,977 --> 00:13:23,810 READ IT. MAYBE HE HAS NOT GIVEN A COPY. 415 00:13:23,812 --> 00:13:25,069 MAYBE HE HAS NOT GIVEN A COPY. OUR PROPOSAL IS VERY CLEAR. 416 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:33,543 OUR PROPOSAL IS VERY CLEAR. WE ARE READY TO OPEN THE STRAIT 417 00:13:33,554 --> 00:13:36,013 WE ARE READY TO OPEN THE STRAIT IF CERTAIN THINGS ARE DONE BY 418 00:13:36,024 --> 00:13:36,690 IF CERTAIN THINGS ARE DONE BY THE U.S., AND THESE CERTAIN 419 00:13:36,725 --> 00:13:41,252 THE U.S., AND THESE CERTAIN THINGS ARE NOT NEW, HAVE NOT 420 00:13:41,263 --> 00:13:43,330 THINGS ARE NOT NEW, HAVE NOT COME FROM THE SPACE. 421 00:13:43,331 --> 00:13:45,799 COME FROM THE SPACE. THESE ARE OUR RIGHTS THAT WE 422 00:13:45,834 --> 00:13:47,258 THESE ARE OUR RIGHTS THAT WE WANT TO BE RESPECTED. 423 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:49,002 WANT TO BE RESPECTED. FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO END 424 00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:51,605 FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO END THIS WAR, THIS WAR OF 425 00:13:51,606 --> 00:13:52,005 THIS WAR, THIS WAR OF AGGRESSION. 426 00:13:52,007 --> 00:13:53,631 AGGRESSION. THEY STARTED IT THIS WAR EIGHT 427 00:13:53,642 --> 00:13:55,166 THEY STARTED IT THIS WAR EIGHT MONTHS AGO WITH THE HOPE THAT IN 428 00:13:55,177 --> 00:13:56,276 MONTHS AGO WITH THE HOPE THAT IN TWO, THREE DAYS THEY CAN WIN THE 429 00:13:56,311 --> 00:13:56,567 TWO, THREE DAYS THEY CAN WIN THE WAR. 430 00:13:56,578 --> 00:13:58,880 WAR. IT’S NOW EIGHT MONTHS. 431 00:13:58,914 --> 00:14:02,707 IT’S NOW EIGHT MONTHS. AND WE WANT IT TO BED. 432 00:14:02,718 --> 00:14:05,209 AND WE WANT IT TO BED. WE WANT OUR MONIES, OUR ASSETS, 433 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:09,523 WE WANT OUR MONIES, OUR ASSETS, WHICH ARE ILLEGALLY FROZEN BE 434 00:14:09,524 --> 00:14:09,880 WHICH ARE ILLEGALLY FROZEN BE RELEASED. 435 00:14:09,891 --> 00:14:12,193 RELEASED. WE WANT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO 436 00:14:12,227 --> 00:14:13,160 WE WANT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SELL OUR OIL. 437 00:14:13,161 --> 00:14:13,884 SELL OUR OIL. WE WANT CERTAIN THINGS THAT U.S. 438 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:18,232 WE WANT CERTAIN THINGS THAT U.S. HAS ALREADY COMMITTED ITSELF IN 439 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:22,493 HAS ALREADY COMMITTED ITSELF IN THE PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, DEALS. 440 00:14:22,504 --> 00:14:23,905 THE PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, DEALS. >> BUT, MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, 441 00:14:23,939 --> 00:14:25,997 >> BUT, MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, YOU HEARD THE AMBASSADOR’S POINT 442 00:14:26,008 --> 00:14:27,208 YOU HEARD THE AMBASSADOR’S POINT WAS THE UNITED STATES IS NOT 443 00:14:27,242 --> 00:14:29,934 WAS THE UNITED STATES IS NOT GOING TO UNFREEZE ASSETS ON 444 00:14:29,945 --> 00:14:30,344 GOING TO UNFREEZE ASSETS ON FRONT END. 445 00:14:30,345 --> 00:14:32,079 FRONT END. >> IT’S NOT GOING TO LIFT 446 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,870 >> IT’S NOT GOING TO LIFT SANCTIONS ON THE FRONT END. 447 00:14:32,881 --> 00:14:36,283 SANCTIONS ON THE FRONT END. IS IT POSSIBLE TO NEGOTIATE A 448 00:14:36,285 --> 00:14:36,951 IS IT POSSIBLE TO NEGOTIATE A NEW PEACE PLAN AT THIS 449 00:14:36,952 --> 00:14:37,642 NEW PEACE PLAN AT THIS JUNCTIONTURE OR HAS DIPLOMACY 450 00:14:37,653 --> 00:14:41,055 JUNCTIONTURE OR HAS DIPLOMACY FAILED? 451 00:14:41,056 --> 00:14:43,714 FAILED? >> WELL, WHY THEY ARE NOT READY 452 00:14:43,725 --> 00:14:45,826 >> WELL, WHY THEY ARE NOT READY TO RELEASE OUR MAN, IT IS OUR 453 00:14:45,861 --> 00:14:50,355 TO RELEASE OUR MAN, IT IS OUR OWN MONEY, IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, 454 00:14:50,366 --> 00:14:51,099 OWN MONEY, IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHERS’ MONEY. 455 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:52,400 ANY OTHERS’ MONEY. >> THEY WANT TO SEE ACTIONABLE 456 00:14:52,401 --> 00:14:58,406 >> THEY WANT TO SEE ACTIONABLE ITEMS FROM IRAN LIKE OPENING THE 457 00:14:58,407 --> 00:14:59,173 ITEMS FROM IRAN LIKE OPENING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ BEFORE THEY DO 458 00:14:59,174 --> 00:14:59,473 STRAIT OF HORMUZ BEFORE THEY DO THAT. 459 00:14:59,475 --> 00:15:00,098 THAT. HAS DIPLOMACY FAILED, MR. 460 00:15:00,109 --> 00:15:00,599 HAS DIPLOMACY FAILED, MR. FOREIGN MINISTER? 461 00:15:00,610 --> 00:15:03,668 FOREIGN MINISTER? >> WELL, DIPLOMACY CAN NEVER -- 462 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:06,981 >> WELL, DIPLOMACY CAN NEVER -- IT’S ALWAYS HOPEFUL, DIPLOMACY. 463 00:15:06,982 --> 00:15:08,182 IT’S ALWAYS HOPEFUL, DIPLOMACY. BUT WE HAVE NO REASON TO BE 464 00:15:08,184 --> 00:15:09,775 BUT WE HAVE NO REASON TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, NO REASON TO 465 00:15:09,786 --> 00:15:11,719 HONEST WITH YOU, NO REASON TO COME BACK TO DIPLOMACY AND 466 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,187 COME BACK TO DIPLOMACY AND ENGAGE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION 467 00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:14,446 ENGAGE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE IF THEY 468 00:15:14,457 --> 00:15:17,015 ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE IF THEY BEHAVE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. 469 00:15:17,026 --> 00:15:19,127 BEHAVE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE KNOW IN 2025 THEY OFFERED 470 00:15:19,128 --> 00:15:19,594 WE KNOW IN 2025 THEY OFFERED NEGOTIATIONS. 471 00:15:19,628 --> 00:15:21,586 NEGOTIATIONS. WE ACCEPTED AND ENGAGED INTO 472 00:15:21,597 --> 00:15:22,430 WE ACCEPTED AND ENGAGED INTO NEGOTIATION AND THEN IN THE 473 00:15:22,431 --> 00:15:23,755 NEGOTIATION AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS THEY 474 00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:24,623 MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS THEY ATTACKED US. 475 00:15:24,634 --> 00:15:26,834 ATTACKED US. EIGHT MONTHS LATER IN 2026, 476 00:15:26,836 --> 00:15:28,770 EIGHT MONTHS LATER IN 2026, FEBRUARY AGAIN THEY OFFERED 477 00:15:28,804 --> 00:15:30,161 FEBRUARY AGAIN THEY OFFERED NEGOTIATION, AGAIN WE ACCEPTED 478 00:15:30,172 --> 00:15:31,506 NEGOTIATION, AGAIN WE ACCEPTED AND AGAIN THEY ATTACKED US IN 479 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:34,032 AND AGAIN THEY ATTACKED US IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS. 480 00:15:34,043 --> 00:15:35,710 THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS. THEN THEY OFFER AFTER THE WAR, 481 00:15:35,711 --> 00:15:37,235 THEN THEY OFFER AFTER THE WAR, THEY OFFER NEGOTIATION FOR A 482 00:15:37,246 --> 00:15:37,645 THEY OFFER NEGOTIATION FOR A DEAL. 483 00:15:37,647 --> 00:15:38,537 DEAL. WE ACCEPTED. 484 00:15:38,548 --> 00:15:39,437 WE ACCEPTED. WE HAD THREE MONTHS OF 485 00:15:39,448 --> 00:15:40,815 WE HAD THREE MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS AND IT TOOK ONLY 486 00:15:40,816 --> 00:15:43,675 NEGOTIATIONS AND IT TOOK ONLY TWO WEEKS FOR THEM TO VIOLATE A 487 00:15:43,686 --> 00:15:44,319 TWO WEEKS FOR THEM TO VIOLATE A DEAL WHICH THEY HAD SIGNED 488 00:15:44,353 --> 00:15:46,511 DEAL WHICH THEY HAD SIGNED THEMSELVES. 489 00:15:46,522 --> 00:15:48,823 THEMSELVES. SO IF YOU ASK US, THERE IS NO 490 00:15:48,825 --> 00:15:51,126 SO IF YOU ASK US, THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD GO BACK TO 491 00:15:51,127 --> 00:15:51,526 REASON WHY WE SHOULD GO BACK TO DIPLOMACY. 492 00:15:51,527 --> 00:15:54,052 DIPLOMACY. BUT I AM STILL TRYING DIPLOMACY 493 00:15:54,063 --> 00:15:54,753 BUT I AM STILL TRYING DIPLOMACY BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULDN’T 494 00:15:54,764 --> 00:15:57,766 BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULDN’T MISS ANY CHANCE FOR PEACE. 495 00:15:57,767 --> 00:16:02,728 MISS ANY CHANCE FOR PEACE. WE DON’T CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 496 00:16:02,739 --> 00:16:05,064 WE DON’T CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, U.S. MIDTERM ELECTIONS, WE CARE 497 00:16:05,075 --> 00:16:06,074 U.S. MIDTERM ELECTIONS, WE CARE ABOUT OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS. 498 00:16:06,075 --> 00:16:07,399 ABOUT OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS. WE ARE READY TO NEGOTIATE ADDS 499 00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:09,511 WE ARE READY TO NEGOTIATE ADDS MUCH AS WE ARE READY TO FACE ANY 500 00:16:09,545 --> 00:16:09,944 MUCH AS WE ARE READY TO FACE ANY CHALLENGE. 501 00:16:09,946 --> 00:16:12,504 CHALLENGE. WE STAND FIRM IN THE FACE OF ANY 502 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:14,817 WE STAND FIRM IN THE FACE OF ANY CHALLENGE, ANY AGGRESSION, 503 00:16:14,851 --> 00:16:17,109 CHALLENGE, ANY AGGRESSION, SORRY, FIRM IN THE FACE OF ANY 504 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,453 SORRY, FIRM IN THE FACE OF ANY AGGRESSION AGAINST US EVEN IF IT 505 00:16:18,488 --> 00:16:19,611 AGGRESSION AGAINST US EVEN IF IT COMES TO DOOMSDAY WAR. 506 00:16:19,622 --> 00:16:20,622 COMES TO DOOMSDAY WAR. AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE READY 507 00:16:20,657 --> 00:16:24,150 AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE READY FOR DIPLOMACY. 508 00:16:24,161 --> 00:16:26,318 FOR DIPLOMACY. BUT AND NOW THERE IS A VERY 509 00:16:26,329 --> 00:16:29,298 BUT AND NOW THERE IS A VERY REASONABLE PLAN ON THE TABLE. 510 00:16:29,299 --> 00:16:31,867 REASONABLE PLAN ON THE TABLE. IF THEY REJECT WITH NO REASON, 511 00:16:31,901 --> 00:16:32,758 IF THEY REJECT WITH NO REASON, THIS IS THEIR FAULT. 512 00:16:32,769 --> 00:16:34,803 THIS IS THEIR FAULT. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH 513 00:16:34,804 --> 00:16:35,961 AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH WE HEARD FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP 514 00:16:35,972 --> 00:16:37,463 WE HEARD FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT HE IS REJECTING THIS DEAL, 515 00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:39,732 THAT HE IS REJECTING THIS DEAL, WHAT WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN 516 00:16:39,743 --> 00:16:41,577 WHAT WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE THROUGH THE 517 00:16:41,611 --> 00:16:42,010 OFFICIAL RESPONSE THROUGH THE MEDIATORS. 518 00:16:42,012 --> 00:16:43,336 MEDIATORS. >> WELL, IT IS WORTH NOTING YOU 519 00:16:43,347 --> 00:16:44,804 >> WELL, IT IS WORTH NOTING YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY VIOLATED 520 00:16:44,815 --> 00:16:47,406 ARE SAYING THAT THEY VIOLATED THE LAST AGREEMENT. 521 00:16:47,417 --> 00:16:48,884 THE LAST AGREEMENT. IRAN DID FIRE FIRST ON 522 00:16:48,918 --> 00:16:49,641 IRAN DID FIRE FIRST ON COMMERCIAL SHIPS IN THE STRAIT 523 00:16:49,652 --> 00:16:50,018 COMMERCIAL SHIPS IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. 524 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,487 OF HORMUZ. LET ME ASK YOU BROADLY SPEAKING, 525 00:16:51,521 --> 00:16:52,845 LET ME ASK YOU BROADLY SPEAKING, BECAUSE IT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE 526 00:16:52,856 --> 00:16:54,856 BECAUSE IT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN 527 00:16:54,891 --> 00:16:55,290 YOU HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN DIPLOMACY. 528 00:16:55,292 --> 00:16:59,695 DIPLOMACY. DO YOU TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP? 529 00:16:59,696 --> 00:17:01,854 DO YOU TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN’T 530 00:17:01,865 --> 00:17:02,231 >> FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN’T VIOLATE IT. 531 00:17:02,232 --> 00:17:05,301 VIOLATE IT. THEY VIOLATED IT FIRST. 532 00:17:05,335 --> 00:17:07,359 THEY VIOLATED IT FIRST. BUT IF THEY HAD THE STORY AND 533 00:17:07,370 --> 00:17:08,470 BUT IF THEY HAD THE STORY AND THEY THINK THAT WE HAVE VIOLATED 534 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:11,564 THEY THINK THAT WE HAVE VIOLATED THE DEAL, WHY DID THEY BOMB US? 535 00:17:11,575 --> 00:17:12,875 THE DEAL, WHY DID THEY BOMB US? THEY COULD HAVE ACTIVATED 536 00:17:12,909 --> 00:17:15,310 THEY COULD HAVE ACTIVATED PARAGRAPH 12 OF THE MOU FOR 537 00:17:15,312 --> 00:17:16,045 PARAGRAPH 12 OF THE MOU FOR SETTLEMENT -- 538 00:17:16,046 --> 00:17:18,514 SETTLEMENT -- >> THEY SAY YOU WERE FIRING AT 539 00:17:18,515 --> 00:17:19,372 >> THEY SAY YOU WERE FIRING AT COMMERCIAL SHIPS IN THE STRAIT 540 00:17:19,383 --> 00:17:19,815 COMMERCIAL SHIPS IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. 541 00:17:19,850 --> 00:17:20,773 OF HORMUZ. TO MY QUESTION, DO YOU TRUST 542 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:24,687 TO MY QUESTION, DO YOU TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP? 543 00:17:24,721 --> 00:17:26,855 PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> WELL, WE TRUST OURSELVES. 544 00:17:26,857 --> 00:17:30,283 >> WELL, WE TRUST OURSELVES. WE ARE READY FOR DIPLOMACY. 545 00:17:30,294 --> 00:17:32,194 WE ARE READY FOR DIPLOMACY. WE ARE READY FOR WAR AT THE SAME 546 00:17:32,229 --> 00:17:32,528 WE ARE READY FOR WAR AT THE SAME TIME. 547 00:17:32,529 --> 00:17:33,986 TIME. THEY HAVE TESTED US IN BOTH 548 00:17:33,997 --> 00:17:34,297 THEY HAVE TESTED US IN BOTH CASES. 549 00:17:34,331 --> 00:17:35,121 CASES. THEY TESTED US IN THE AGGRESSION 550 00:17:35,132 --> 00:17:38,992 THEY TESTED US IN THE AGGRESSION TWICE AND THEY ARE WELCOME IF 551 00:17:39,003 --> 00:17:41,370 TWICE AND THEY ARE WELCOME IF THEY WANT TO TEST US ONCE AGAIN. 552 00:17:41,371 --> 00:17:43,572 THEY WANT TO TEST US ONCE AGAIN. THEY HAVE TESTED US ALSO IN 553 00:17:43,574 --> 00:17:44,407 THEY HAVE TESTED US ALSO IN DIPLOMACY. 554 00:17:44,441 --> 00:17:46,575 DIPLOMACY. IN 2015, WE HAD A DEAL. 555 00:17:46,577 --> 00:17:48,001 IN 2015, WE HAD A DEAL. WE COME INTO THAT DEAL, IT WAS 556 00:17:48,012 --> 00:17:51,247 WE COME INTO THAT DEAL, IT WAS THE U.S. WHO WITHDRAW WITH NO 557 00:17:51,281 --> 00:17:51,704 THE U.S. WHO WITHDRAW WITH NO JUSTIFICATION. 558 00:17:51,715 --> 00:17:54,050 JUSTIFICATION. NOW WE HAVE A DEAL AND THEY 559 00:17:54,084 --> 00:17:56,909 NOW WE HAVE A DEAL AND THEY WITHDRAW, VEELATED IT WITH NO 560 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,653 WITHDRAW, VEELATED IT WITH NO JUSTIFICATION, AND STILL WE HAVE 561 00:17:57,688 --> 00:18:00,890 JUSTIFICATION, AND STILL WE HAVE OFFERED THE PLAN. 562 00:18:00,891 --> 00:18:03,216 OFFERED THE PLAN. IF THEY WANT -- IF THEY ARE 563 00:18:03,227 --> 00:18:05,327 IF THEY WANT -- IF THEY ARE SERIOUS THAT THEY WANT A DEAL TO 564 00:18:05,362 --> 00:18:06,095 SERIOUS THAT THEY WANT A DEAL TO REOPEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, NOW 565 00:18:06,096 --> 00:18:10,022 REOPEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, NOW THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY. 566 00:18:10,033 --> 00:18:11,591 THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY. WE HAVE OFFERED THIS SEVEN-DAY 567 00:18:11,602 --> 00:18:11,901 WE HAVE OFFERED THIS SEVEN-DAY PLAN. 568 00:18:11,902 --> 00:18:14,470 PLAN. WE WANT THEM TO DO CERTAIN 569 00:18:14,505 --> 00:18:15,905 WE WANT THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WHICH WHICH THEY THEY CAN 570 00:18:15,906 --> 00:18:18,374 THINGS WHICH WHICH THEY THEY CAN DO IN FOUR, FIVE DAYS AND THEN 571 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:20,600 DO IN FOUR, FIVE DAYS AND THEN ON THE SIXTH THE STRAIT WILL BE 572 00:18:20,611 --> 00:18:22,502 ON THE SIXTH THE STRAIT WILL BE OPEN AND DAY SEVEN RESUME TALKS 573 00:18:22,513 --> 00:18:23,003 OPEN AND DAY SEVEN RESUME TALKS FOR THE FINAL -- 574 00:18:23,014 --> 00:18:24,737 FOR THE FINAL -- >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, I WANT 575 00:18:24,748 --> 00:18:26,549 >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, I WANT TO GET THROUGH A LOT MORE HERE. 576 00:18:26,584 --> 00:18:29,443 TO GET THROUGH A LOT MORE HERE. I WANT TO ASK YOU BECAUSE "THE 577 00:18:29,454 --> 00:18:30,186 I WANT TO ASK YOU BECAUSE "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS 578 00:18:30,221 --> 00:18:31,421 WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS REPORTING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP 579 00:18:31,422 --> 00:18:33,346 REPORTING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPECTS TO RESUME BOMBING IRAN 580 00:18:33,357 --> 00:18:34,591 EXPECTS TO RESUME BOMBING IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERMS AS YOU KNOW 581 00:18:34,625 --> 00:18:38,451 AFTER THE MIDTERMS AS YOU KNOW HE STOOD AT THE U.N. AND 582 00:18:38,462 --> 00:18:40,263 HE STOOD AT THE U.N. AND THREATENED TO ANNIHILATE IRAN. 583 00:18:40,298 --> 00:18:41,555 THREATENED TO ANNIHILATE IRAN. ARE YOU PREPARING FOR THIS WAR 584 00:18:41,566 --> 00:18:44,567 ARE YOU PREPARING FOR THIS WAR TO RESUME? 585 00:18:44,602 --> 00:18:46,927 TO RESUME? >> WE ARE FULLY PREPARED FOR THE 586 00:18:46,938 --> 00:18:48,662 >> WE ARE FULLY PREPARED FOR THE TERM -- FOR THE WAR TO BE 587 00:18:48,673 --> 00:18:49,272 TERM -- FOR THE WAR TO BE RESUMED. 588 00:18:49,307 --> 00:18:51,899 RESUMED. I REPEAT, WE STAND FIRM IN THE 589 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:54,067 I REPEAT, WE STAND FIRM IN THE FACE OF ANY NEW AGGRESSION EVEN 590 00:18:54,078 --> 00:18:55,936 FACE OF ANY NEW AGGRESSION EVEN IT COMES TO A DOOMSDAY WAR. 591 00:18:55,947 --> 00:18:59,716 IT COMES TO A DOOMSDAY WAR. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE 592 00:18:59,750 --> 00:19:00,607 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE READY, WE STAND READY FOR FOR 593 00:19:00,618 --> 00:19:01,017 READY, WE STAND READY FOR FOR DIPLOMACY. 594 00:19:01,018 --> 00:19:01,751 DIPLOMACY. IT IS UP TO PRESIDENT TRUMP TO 595 00:19:01,753 --> 00:19:06,323 IT IS UP TO PRESIDENT TRUMP TO CHOOSE. 596 00:19:06,324 --> 00:19:06,980 CHOOSE. HE WANTED UNCONDITIONAL 597 00:19:06,991 --> 00:19:07,791 HE WANTED UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER IN THE PREVIOUS WAR IN 598 00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:08,181 SURRENDER IN THE PREVIOUS WAR IN TWO DAYS. 599 00:19:08,192 --> 00:19:08,949 TWO DAYS. NOW IT’S EIGHT MONTHS THAT THEY 600 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,230 NOW IT’S EIGHT MONTHS THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING WITH NO RESULT. 601 00:19:13,264 --> 00:19:14,855 ARE FIGHTING WITH NO RESULT. NEW AGGRESSION WOULD BE 602 00:19:14,866 --> 00:19:16,724 NEW AGGRESSION WOULD BE CERTAINLY THE SAME. 603 00:19:16,735 --> 00:19:18,258 CERTAINLY THE SAME. WE ARE FULLY PREPARED FOR THAT. 604 00:19:18,269 --> 00:19:20,127 WE ARE FULLY PREPARED FOR THAT. WE HAVE LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM 605 00:19:20,138 --> 00:19:22,272 WE HAVE LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM THE TWO PREVIOUS WARS AND WE 606 00:19:22,273 --> 00:19:24,064 THE TWO PREVIOUS WARS AND WE HAVE CORRECTED OUR TACTICS. 607 00:19:24,075 --> 00:19:26,500 HAVE CORRECTED OUR TACTICS. WE HAVE CHANGED OUR TACTICS AND 608 00:19:26,511 --> 00:19:27,243 WE HAVE CHANGED OUR TACTICS AND WE ARE FULLY PREPARED DO THAT. 609 00:19:27,278 --> 00:19:27,968 WE ARE FULLY PREPARED DO THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. 610 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:29,646 >> ALL RIGHT. IRAN’S PRESIDENT SAID THIS WEEK 611 00:19:29,647 --> 00:19:31,748 IRAN’S PRESIDENT SAID THIS WEEK THAT IRAN HAS, QUOTE, NEVER 612 00:19:31,749 --> 00:19:35,642 THAT IRAN HAS, QUOTE, NEVER SOUGHT NUCLEAR WEAPONS BUT IRAN 613 00:19:35,653 --> 00:19:38,011 SOUGHT NUCLEAR WEAPONS BUT IRAN HAS ENRICHED URANIUM TO 60%, 20 614 00:19:38,022 --> 00:19:45,162 HAS ENRICHED URANIUM TO 60%, 20 TIMES MORE THAN ENRICHED URANIUM 615 00:19:45,196 --> 00:19:46,196 TIMES MORE THAN ENRICHED URANIUM NEED FOR ELECTRICITY. 616 00:19:46,197 --> 00:19:48,422 NEED FOR ELECTRICITY. WHY DOES IRAN NEED A STOCKPILE 617 00:19:48,433 --> 00:19:50,735 WHY DOES IRAN NEED A STOCKPILE OF 60% ENRICHED URANIUM? 618 00:19:50,769 --> 00:19:52,827 OF 60% ENRICHED URANIUM? >> IT IS A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE 619 00:19:52,838 --> 00:19:54,738 >> IT IS A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED THIS DURING THE 620 00:19:54,773 --> 00:19:56,097 ANSWERED THIS DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS, WE HAVE IN THE 621 00:19:56,108 --> 00:19:56,473 NEGOTIATIONS, WE HAVE IN THE U.S. 622 00:19:56,474 --> 00:19:58,432 U.S. FIRST OF ALL, ENRICHING UP TO 623 00:19:58,443 --> 00:20:00,177 FIRST OF ALL, ENRICHING UP TO 60% IS NOT ILLEGAL. 624 00:20:00,211 --> 00:20:02,169 60% IS NOT ILLEGAL. IT IS STILL IN THE FRAMEWORK OF 625 00:20:02,180 --> 00:20:04,438 IT IS STILL IN THE FRAMEWORK OF NPT AND OUR PEACEFUL PROGRAM. 626 00:20:04,449 --> 00:20:06,150 NPT AND OUR PEACEFUL PROGRAM. WE HAVE DONE IT FOR CERTAIN 627 00:20:06,184 --> 00:20:07,584 WE HAVE DONE IT FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES, MEDICAL PURPOSES, 628 00:20:07,586 --> 00:20:11,179 PURPOSES, MEDICAL PURPOSES, OTHER PURPOSES. 629 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:12,122 OTHER PURPOSES. BUT WE HAVE OFFERED A DEAL ON 630 00:20:12,124 --> 00:20:19,087 BUT WE HAVE OFFERED A DEAL ON OUR 60% MATERIAL IN 2025, IN 631 00:20:19,098 --> 00:20:21,655 OUR 60% MATERIAL IN 2025, IN 2026 AND STILL IT IS SOMETHING 632 00:20:21,666 --> 00:20:24,301 2026 AND STILL IT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE 633 00:20:24,336 --> 00:20:26,537 THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE CONSIDERED IF THEY PROVE THEIR 634 00:20:26,538 --> 00:20:28,396 CONSIDERED IF THEY PROVE THEIR GOODWILL AND DETERMINATION FOR 635 00:20:28,407 --> 00:20:28,930 GOODWILL AND DETERMINATION FOR PEACE. 636 00:20:28,941 --> 00:20:29,863 PEACE. WE DECIDED TO PUT EVERYTHING 637 00:20:29,874 --> 00:20:36,947 WE DECIDED TO PUT EVERYTHING NUCLEAR FOR LATER STAGES AND GO 638 00:20:36,949 --> 00:20:38,516 NUCLEAR FOR LATER STAGES AND GO FOR COUNTRY -- THIS THIS STAGE. 639 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:40,708 FOR COUNTRY -- THIS THIS STAGE. THIS IS WHY WE OFFERED THIS 640 00:20:40,719 --> 00:20:42,376 THIS IS WHY WE OFFERED THIS SEVEN-DAY PLAN BASED ON 641 00:20:42,387 --> 00:20:43,287 SEVEN-DAY PLAN BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE WITH 642 00:20:43,322 --> 00:20:49,327 UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE WITH THE U.S. IN THE PAST. 643 00:20:49,328 --> 00:20:51,119 THE U.S. IN THE PAST. FIRST, CONFIDENCE SHOULD BE 644 00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:51,653 FIRST, CONFIDENCE SHOULD BE BUILT. 645 00:20:51,664 --> 00:20:55,389 BUILT. OUR MONEY, WHICH ARE ILLEGALLY 646 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,337 OUR MONEY, WHICH ARE ILLEGALLY FROZEN SHOULD BE RELEASED, 647 00:20:59,371 --> 00:20:59,894 FROZEN SHOULD BE RELEASED, BLOCKADE REMOVED -- 648 00:20:59,905 --> 00:21:00,238 BLOCKADE REMOVED -- >> AGAIN. 649 00:21:00,272 --> 00:21:00,862 >> AGAIN. >> AND OTHER THINGS -- 650 00:21:00,873 --> 00:21:02,097 >> AND OTHER THINGS -- >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, AGAIN 651 00:21:02,108 --> 00:21:04,075 >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 20 TIMES 652 00:21:04,076 --> 00:21:05,209 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 20 TIMES MORE ENRICHED URANIUM THAN 653 00:21:05,244 --> 00:21:09,080 MORE ENRICHED URANIUM THAN ÁUT$T)ODUCE ELECTRICITY. 654 00:21:09,081 --> 00:21:12,450 ÁUT$T)ODUCE ELECTRICITY. ALL THAT NEEDED IS 3 TO 5%. 655 00:21:12,451 --> 00:21:13,708 ALL THAT NEEDED IS 3 TO 5%. SO WHY DO YOU NEED THAT 60% OF 656 00:21:13,719 --> 00:21:14,176 SO WHY DO YOU NEED THAT 60% OF ENRICHED URANIUM? 657 00:21:14,187 --> 00:21:14,919 ENRICHED URANIUM? WOULD YOU LET THE U.S. COME IN 658 00:21:14,954 --> 00:21:17,813 WOULD YOU LET THE U.S. COME IN AND TAKE IT? 659 00:21:17,824 --> 00:21:18,923 AND TAKE IT? TO END THE WAR? 660 00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,960 TO END THE WAR? >> I CAN EXPLAIN WHY DO WE NEED 661 00:21:21,961 --> 00:21:23,962 >> I CAN EXPLAIN WHY DO WE NEED THAT. 662 00:21:23,963 --> 00:21:24,820 THAT. BUT YOU ANSWERED ONE QUESTION. 663 00:21:24,831 --> 00:21:26,798 BUT YOU ANSWERED ONE QUESTION. IS THIS ILLEGAL OR NOT? 664 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:30,392 IS THIS ILLEGAL OR NOT? WE ARE A COMMITTED MEMBER OF -- 665 00:21:30,403 --> 00:21:31,235 WE ARE A COMMITTED MEMBER OF -- >> MY QUESTION IS WHETHER THIS 666 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:31,593 >> MY QUESTION IS WHETHER THIS IS -- 667 00:21:31,604 --> 00:21:35,197 IS -- >> 60% ENRICHMENT IS NOT 668 00:21:35,208 --> 00:21:35,573 >> 60% ENRICHMENT IS NOT ILLEGAL. 669 00:21:35,574 --> 00:21:37,408 ILLEGAL. >> IS IT -- I AM NOT TALKING 670 00:21:37,410 --> 00:21:39,368 >> IS IT -- I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. 671 00:21:39,379 --> 00:21:41,936 ABOUT LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. I AM TALKING ABOUT PEACEFUL 672 00:21:41,947 --> 00:21:47,318 I AM TALKING ABOUT PEACEFUL PURPOSES 20 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF 673 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,454 PURPOSES 20 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ENRICHED URANIUM NEEDED FOR 674 00:21:49,488 --> 00:21:49,911 ENRICHED URANIUM NEEDED FOR ELECTRICIAN. 675 00:21:49,922 --> 00:21:50,221 ELECTRICIAN. >> -- 676 00:21:50,222 --> 00:21:51,179 >> -- >> IT IS FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES 677 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:51,813 >> IT IS FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES AND WE HAVE ANSWERED THIS 678 00:21:51,824 --> 00:21:52,190 AND WE HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. 679 00:21:52,191 --> 00:21:53,815 QUESTION. WE HAVE REMOVED ANY CONCERN IN 680 00:21:53,826 --> 00:21:56,294 WE HAVE REMOVED ANY CONCERN IN OUR PAST NEGOTIATIONS IF THERE 681 00:21:56,295 --> 00:21:59,521 OUR PAST NEGOTIATIONS IF THERE IS STILL SUCH A QUESTION WHY 682 00:21:59,532 --> 00:22:01,390 IS STILL SUCH A QUESTION WHY THEY BOMBED US. 683 00:22:01,401 --> 00:22:03,601 THEY BOMBED US. ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED TO 684 00:22:03,603 --> 00:22:06,095 ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED TO BOMB ANYTHING THAT THEY THINK úp 685 00:22:06,106 --> 00:22:07,505 BOMB ANYTHING THAT THEY THINK úp ILLEGAL OR THERE IS NO 686 00:22:07,507 --> 00:22:08,507 ILLEGAL OR THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT? 687 00:22:08,508 --> 00:22:11,033 JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT? WAR IS NOT A SOLUTION. 688 00:22:11,044 --> 00:22:12,043 WAR IS NOT A SOLUTION. THAT WAS A SUBJECT FOR 689 00:22:12,045 --> 00:22:12,811 THAT WAS A SUBJECT FOR NEGOTIATION AND WE DID IT IN THE 690 00:22:12,812 --> 00:22:15,404 NEGOTIATION AND WE DID IT IN THE PAST. 691 00:22:15,415 --> 00:22:17,516 PAST. WE HAVE ENRICHED URANIUM UP TO 692 00:22:17,517 --> 00:22:21,043 WE HAVE ENRICHED URANIUM UP TO SIX BY% FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES 693 00:22:21,054 --> 00:22:23,212 SIX BY% FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES AND IT IS WITHIN OUR 694 00:22:23,223 --> 00:22:23,645 AND IT IS WITHIN OUR COMMITMENT -- 695 00:22:23,656 --> 00:22:24,322 COMMITMENT -- >> MISTER -- 696 00:22:24,324 --> 00:22:26,482 >> MISTER -- >> WE HAVE NOT VIOLATED THE NPT. 697 00:22:26,493 --> 00:22:27,392 >> WE HAVE NOT VIOLATED THE NPT. THERE ARE QUESTIONS. 698 00:22:27,427 --> 00:22:28,851 THERE ARE QUESTIONS. WE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION IN THE 699 00:22:28,862 --> 00:22:30,962 WE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION IN THE PAST DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND 700 00:22:30,964 --> 00:22:32,188 PAST DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. 701 00:22:32,199 --> 00:22:34,033 WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. THERE IS NO NEED FOR MILITARY 702 00:22:34,067 --> 00:22:34,466 THERE IS NO NEED FOR MILITARY OPERATION. 703 00:22:34,467 --> 00:22:35,424 OPERATION. >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, FINAL 704 00:22:35,435 --> 00:22:36,268 >> MR. FOREIGN MINISTER, FINAL QUESTION TO YOU. 705 00:22:36,269 --> 00:22:38,060 QUESTION TO YOU. THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN SAID THIS 706 00:22:38,071 --> 00:22:39,762 THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN SAID THIS WEEK HE HAS SPOKEN TO THE 707 00:22:39,773 --> 00:22:41,896 WEEK HE HAS SPOKEN TO THE SUPREME LEADER, SAYS HE IS IN 708 00:22:41,907 --> 00:22:43,509 SUPREME LEADER, SAYS HE IS IN GOOD HEALTH. 709 00:22:43,543 --> 00:22:46,068 GOOD HEALTH. WHY HAS THERE BEEN NO PROOF OF 710 00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:46,969 WHY HAS THERE BEEN NO PROOF OF LIFE OF THE SUPREME LEADER SINCE 711 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:51,874 LIFE OF THE SUPREME LEADER SINCE HE TOOK POWER IN MARCH? 712 00:22:51,885 --> 00:22:56,088 HE TOOK POWER IN MARCH? >> WELL, THERE ARE SECURITY 713 00:22:56,089 --> 00:22:59,582 >> WELL, THERE ARE SECURITY CONCERNS. 714 00:22:59,593 --> 00:23:02,894 CONCERNS. AND YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF THAT. 715 00:23:02,896 --> 00:23:04,997 AND YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF THAT. YOU KNOW OUR SUPREME LEADER WAS 716 00:23:04,998 --> 00:23:05,721 YOU KNOW OUR SUPREME LEADER WAS ILLEGALLY ASSASSINATED DURING 717 00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:11,871 ILLEGALLY ASSASSINATED DURING THE LAST WAR, AND I THINK IT IS 718 00:23:11,905 --> 00:23:14,163 THE LAST WAR, AND I THINK IT IS VERY LOGIC THAT WE PRO TOEKT OUR 719 00:23:14,174 --> 00:23:14,764 VERY LOGIC THAT WE PRO TOEKT OUR LEADER -- 720 00:23:14,775 --> 00:23:16,808 LEADER -- >> WHY NOT PUT OUT A VIDEO -- 721 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:19,035 >> WHY NOT PUT OUT A VIDEO -- WHY NOT PUT OUT A VIDEO -- 722 00:23:19,046 --> 00:23:19,802 WHY NOT PUT OUT A VIDEO -- >> NO, NO. 723 00:23:19,813 --> 00:23:20,579 >> NO, NO. FOR SECURITY REASONS. 724 00:23:20,614 --> 00:23:21,871 FOR SECURITY REASONS. THERE ARE LOTS OF INDICATIONS 725 00:23:21,882 --> 00:23:25,017 THERE ARE LOTS OF INDICATIONS THAT HE IS UNDER THREAT BY 726 00:23:25,018 --> 00:23:25,741 THAT HE IS UNDER THREAT BY AMERICANS AND THERE ARE OTHER 727 00:23:25,752 --> 00:23:27,720 AMERICANS AND THERE ARE OTHER INDICATIONS THAT HE IS IN FULL 728 00:23:27,721 --> 00:23:28,487 INDICATIONS THAT HE IS IN FULL CONTROL, HE IS IN FULL ORDER:WE 729 00:23:28,522 --> 00:23:33,149 CONTROL, HE IS IN FULL ORDER:WE RECEIVE HIS, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS 730 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,792 RECEIVE HIS, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS AND ORDERS AND OPINIONS AND 731 00:23:33,827 --> 00:23:41,057 AND ORDERS AND OPINIONS AND THERE IS NATIONAL CONSENSUS ON 732 00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:41,500 THERE IS NATIONAL CONSENSUS ON DECISION-MAKING. 733 00:23:41,535 --> 00:23:43,493 DECISION-MAKING. IT IS FALSE IF SOMEBODY THINK 734 00:23:43,504 --> 00:23:44,560 IT IS FALSE IF SOMEBODY THINK THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENCE SOURCE 735 00:23:44,571 --> 00:23:47,573 THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENCE SOURCE OF POWER INSIDE IRAN. 736 00:23:47,608 --> 00:23:50,300 OF POWER INSIDE IRAN. NO RE -- WE IN THE FOREIGN 737 00:23:50,311 --> 00:23:51,510 NO RE -- WE IN THE FOREIGN MINISTRY ARE IN CLOSE 738 00:23:51,512 --> 00:23:52,969 MINISTRY ARE IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPMENT, 739 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:55,981 COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPMENT, WITH IRGC, WITH THE SUPREME 740 00:23:56,016 --> 00:23:57,673 WITH IRGC, WITH THE SUPREME NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, THE 741 00:23:57,684 --> 00:23:58,241 NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, THE PARLIAMENT. 742 00:23:58,252 --> 00:24:02,222 PARLIAMENT. WE ARE ALL IN ONE FRONT FACING 743 00:24:02,256 --> 00:24:03,723 WE ARE ALL IN ONE FRONT FACING ALL CHALLENGES IMPOSED ON US BY 744 00:24:03,724 --> 00:24:04,123 ALL CHALLENGES IMPOSED ON US BY THE U.S. 745 00:24:04,124 --> 00:24:04,647 THE U.S. >> ALL RIGHT. 746 00:24:04,658 --> 00:24:09,619 >> ALL RIGHT. >> SANCTIONS OR MILITARY 747 00:24:09,630 --> 00:24:10,120 >> SANCTIONS OR MILITARY OPERATIONS. 748 00:24:10,131 --> 00:24:11,287 OPERATIONS. >> FOREIGN MINISTER ARAGHCHI, 749 00:24:11,298 --> 00:24:11,831 >> FOREIGN MINISTER ARAGHCHI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 750 00:24:11,865 --> 00:24:12,455 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 751 00:24:12,466 --> 00:24:12,732 WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WHEN WE COME BACK, DEMOCRATIC 752 00:24:24,144 --> 00:24:25,244 >>> WELCOME BACK. 753 00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:27,003 >>> WELCOME BACK. JOINING ME IS DEMOCRATIC 754 00:24:27,014 --> 00:24:28,181 JOINING ME IS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA OF 755 00:24:28,182 --> 00:24:28,581 CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA OF CALIFORNIA. 756 00:24:28,582 --> 00:24:29,348 CALIFORNIA. CONGRESSMAN KHANNA, WELCOME BACK 757 00:24:29,383 --> 00:24:32,442 CONGRESSMAN KHANNA, WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE PRESS." 758 00:24:32,453 --> 00:24:34,010 TO "MEET THE PRESS." >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. 759 00:24:34,021 --> 00:24:35,555 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING 760 00:24:35,589 --> 00:24:35,888 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 761 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:37,190 HERE. A LOT TO UNPACK. 762 00:24:37,191 --> 00:24:39,983 A LOT TO UNPACK. I WANT TO START WITH WHAT WE 763 00:24:39,994 --> 00:24:42,195 I WANT TO START WITH WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN 764 00:24:42,196 --> 00:24:43,620 JUST HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTER OF IRAN AND FROM U.N. 765 00:24:43,631 --> 00:24:45,031 MINISTER OF IRAN AND FROM U.N. AMBASSADOR MIKE WALTZ. 766 00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:47,758 AMBASSADOR MIKE WALTZ. DO YOU BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES 767 00:24:47,769 --> 00:24:49,869 DO YOU BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES SHOULD ACCEPT A DEAL WHERE IRAN 768 00:24:49,870 --> 00:24:52,028 SHOULD ACCEPT A DEAL WHERE IRAN STILL HAS CONTROL OF ITS NUCLEAR 769 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:52,772 STILL HAS CONTROL OF ITS NUCLEAR MATERIAL IF IT MEANS ENDING THIS 770 00:24:52,807 --> 00:24:57,377 MATERIAL IF IT MEANS ENDING THIS WAR, CONGRESSMAN? 771 00:24:57,378 --> 00:24:59,603 WAR, CONGRESSMAN? >> WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE DEAL TO 772 00:24:59,614 --> 00:25:03,507 >> WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE DEAL TO END THE WAR NOT SPECIFICALLY 773 00:25:03,518 --> 00:25:03,917 END THE WAR NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS DEAL. 774 00:25:03,918 --> 00:25:04,918 THIS DEAL. LET’S JUST REVIEW THE FACTS, 775 00:25:04,919 --> 00:25:06,510 LET’S JUST REVIEW THE FACTS, KRISTEN. 776 00:25:06,521 --> 00:25:08,345 KRISTEN. THOMAS MASSIE AND I HAD A WAR 777 00:25:08,356 --> 00:25:09,756 THOMAS MASSIE AND I HAD A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION TO PREVENT US 778 00:25:09,791 --> 00:25:12,483 POWERS RESOLUTION TO PREVENT US FROM GETTING INTO THIS WAR. 779 00:25:12,494 --> 00:25:14,451 FROM GETTING INTO THIS WAR. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT 780 00:25:14,462 --> 00:25:15,019 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT DECISION. 781 00:25:15,030 --> 00:25:19,199 DECISION. WE MADE THINGS WORSE WITH GAS UP 782 00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:25,805 WE MADE THINGS WORSE WITH GAS UP OVER $4.40, DIESEL AT $6.40. 783 00:25:25,807 --> 00:25:27,207 OVER $4.40, DIESEL AT $6.40. WITH YOUR EXCHANGE WITH THE 784 00:25:27,208 --> 00:25:28,208 WITH YOUR EXCHANGE WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTER, THEY ARE 785 00:25:28,209 --> 00:25:29,099 FOREIGN MINISTER, THEY ARE ENRICHING AT 60%. 786 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:30,968 ENRICHING AT 60%. WHILE THAT’S NOT A VIOLATION OF 787 00:25:30,979 --> 00:25:34,638 WHILE THAT’S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE NPT, PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH 788 00:25:34,649 --> 00:25:35,782 THE NPT, PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH THE JCPOA HAD THAT ENRICHMENT 789 00:25:35,817 --> 00:25:39,376 THE JCPOA HAD THAT ENRICHMENT DOWN TO 3.67%. 790 00:25:39,387 --> 00:25:40,988 DOWN TO 3.67%. IT’S ONLY BECAUSE TRUMP RIPPED 791 00:25:41,022 --> 00:25:43,080 IT’S ONLY BECAUSE TRUMP RIPPED UP THE AGREEMENT AND WENT INTO 792 00:25:43,091 --> 00:25:44,548 UP THE AGREEMENT AND WENT INTO WAR THAT WE ARE IN THIS 793 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:45,125 WAR THAT WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION. 794 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,752 SITUATION. SO NOW HOW DO WE GET OUT OF IT? 795 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,720 SO NOW HOW DO WE GET OUT OF IT? IN MY VIEW THE BIGGEST THING WE 796 00:25:49,731 --> 00:25:52,256 IN MY VIEW THE BIGGEST THING WE NEED TO GIVE THE IRANIANS IS AN 797 00:25:52,267 --> 00:25:53,891 NEED TO GIVE THE IRANIANS IS AN IRONCLAD COMMITMENT WE WILL NOT 798 00:25:53,902 --> 00:25:55,302 IRONCLAD COMMITMENT WE WILL NOT HAVE REGIME CHANGE WAR. 799 00:25:55,336 --> 00:25:56,860 HAVE REGIME CHANGE WAR. THAT’S THAT THEY CARE ABOUT. 800 00:25:56,871 --> 00:25:58,338 THAT’S THAT THEY CARE ABOUT. YOU HAVE TRUMP GOING TO THE U.N. 801 00:25:58,339 --> 00:25:59,863 YOU HAVE TRUMP GOING TO THE U.N. SAYING WE ARE GOING TO BLOW THEM 802 00:25:59,874 --> 00:26:00,564 SAYING WE ARE GOING TO BLOW THEM ALL UP. 803 00:26:00,575 --> 00:26:02,166 ALL UP. AFTER HE HAD SAID THAT WE 804 00:26:02,177 --> 00:26:06,003 AFTER HE HAD SAID THAT WE ALREADY BLEW UP ALL THEIR 805 00:26:06,014 --> 00:26:06,614 ALREADY BLEW UP ALL THEIR NUCLEAR FACILITIES WHICH, 806 00:26:06,648 --> 00:26:08,849 NUCLEAR FACILITIES WHICH, OBVIOUSLY, WE DIDN’T. 807 00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:09,850 OBVIOUSLY, WE DIDN’T. IF WE GIVE THEM AN AGREEMENT, NO 808 00:26:09,851 --> 00:26:11,175 IF WE GIVE THEM AN AGREEMENT, NO REGIME CHANGE WAR, I BELIEVE WE 809 00:26:11,186 --> 00:26:12,810 REGIME CHANGE WAR, I BELIEVE WE CAN GET A CEASEFIRE AND DON’T 810 00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:14,578 CAN GET A CEASEFIRE AND DON’T HAVE TO AGREE TO ALL OF THEIR 811 00:26:14,589 --> 00:26:16,457 HAVE TO AGREE TO ALL OF THEIR TERMS WHICH I BELIEVE SOME ARE 812 00:26:16,491 --> 00:26:16,890 TERMS WHICH I BELIEVE SOME ARE EXCESSIVE. 813 00:26:16,892 --> 00:26:18,893 EXCESSIVE. >> OKAY, CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO 814 00:26:18,894 --> 00:26:21,996 >> OKAY, CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER MAJOR TOPIC 815 00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:23,197 MOVE ON TO ANOTHER MAJOR TOPIC UNDER A MICROSCOPE, YOU HAVE 816 00:26:23,198 --> 00:26:24,398 UNDER A MICROSCOPE, YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT, AI. 817 00:26:24,399 --> 00:26:27,358 BEEN WORKING ON IT, AI. YOU ARE SUPPORTING LEGISLATION 818 00:26:27,369 --> 00:26:29,327 YOU ARE SUPPORTING LEGISLATION PROPOSED BY SENATOR BERNIE 819 00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:31,672 PROPOSED BY SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS THAT WOULD AMONG OTHER 820 00:26:31,706 --> 00:26:34,274 SANDERS THAT WOULD AMONG OTHER THINGS PAUSE ADVANCED AI 821 00:26:34,276 --> 00:26:35,276 THINGS PAUSE ADVANCED AI DEVELOPMENT WHILE GUARDRAILS ARE 822 00:26:35,277 --> 00:26:36,110 DEVELOPMENT WHILE GUARDRAILS ARE PUT INTO PLACE. 823 00:26:36,111 --> 00:26:39,070 PUT INTO PLACE. YOU ARE OF COURSE THE 824 00:26:39,081 --> 00:26:42,183 YOU ARE OF COURSE THE CONGRESSMAN WHO REPRESENTS 825 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:42,640 CONGRESSMAN WHO REPRESENTS SILICON VALLEY. 826 00:26:42,651 --> 00:26:44,619 SILICON VALLEY. DO YOUR CONSTITUENTS SUPPORT 827 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:45,510 DO YOUR CONSTITUENTS SUPPORT SLOWING DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT OF 828 00:26:45,521 --> 00:26:46,286 SLOWING DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AI, CONGRESSMAN? 829 00:26:46,321 --> 00:26:50,114 AI, CONGRESSMAN? >> NOT ALL OF THEM. 830 00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:50,715 >> NOT ALL OF THEM. OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE 831 00:26:50,726 --> 00:26:51,516 OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE EXECUTIVES ARE OPPOSED. 832 00:26:51,527 --> 00:26:53,317 EXECUTIVES ARE OPPOSED. NOW WHO SUPPORTS ME IS A LOT OF 833 00:26:53,328 --> 00:26:57,188 NOW WHO SUPPORTS ME IS A LOT OF THE ENGINEERS AND RESEARCHERS. 834 00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,056 THE ENGINEERS AND RESEARCHERS. MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY WHO WORK 835 00:26:58,067 --> 00:27:00,134 MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY WHO WORK AT OPENAI AND ANTHROPIC. 836 00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:01,268 AT OPENAI AND ANTHROPIC. LATER TODAY I AM MEETING WITH A 837 00:27:01,303 --> 00:27:03,661 LATER TODAY I AM MEETING WITH A GROUP OF 10 TO 15 OF THEM AT 838 00:27:03,672 --> 00:27:04,706 GROUP OF 10 TO 15 OF THEM AT THESE COMPANIES. 839 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:07,432 THESE COMPANIES. AND WHAT THE LEGISLATION WOULD 840 00:27:07,443 --> 00:27:10,545 AND WHAT THE LEGISLATION WOULD BAN IS RECURSIVE SELF-IMPROVING 841 00:27:10,546 --> 00:27:11,012 BAN IS RECURSIVE SELF-IMPROVING AI. 842 00:27:11,013 --> 00:27:13,414 AI. THAT IS BASICALLY AI THAT ISN’T 843 00:27:13,415 --> 00:27:14,739 THAT IS BASICALLY AI THAT ISN’T BEING TRAINED ANYMORE BY HUMAN 844 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:15,149 BEING TRAINED ANYMORE BY HUMAN BEINGS. 845 00:27:15,150 --> 00:27:18,376 BEINGS. IT’S AI THAT CAN TRAIN ITSELF. 846 00:27:18,387 --> 00:27:20,245 IT’S AI THAT CAN TRAIN ITSELF. AND THAT IS A REAL RISK OF 847 00:27:20,256 --> 00:27:21,946 AND THAT IS A REAL RISK OF LOSING HUMAN CONTROL. 848 00:27:21,957 --> 00:27:24,058 LOSING HUMAN CONTROL. WHAT THE SENATOR SANDERS AND 849 00:27:24,059 --> 00:27:26,260 WHAT THE SENATOR SANDERS AND GREG KIZ AR AND JEFFREY HINTON, 850 00:27:26,262 --> 00:27:28,196 GREG KIZ AR AND JEFFREY HINTON, THE GODFATHER OF AI ARE SAYING 851 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:30,121 THE GODFATHER OF AI ARE SAYING IS UNTIL WE HAVE GUARDRAILS, WE 852 00:27:30,132 --> 00:27:33,591 IS UNTIL WE HAVE GUARDRAILS, WE CAN’T LET AI TRAIN ITSELF AND 853 00:27:33,602 --> 00:27:34,002 CAN’T LET AI TRAIN ITSELF AND LOSE CONTROL. 854 00:27:34,036 --> 00:27:34,869 LOSE CONTROL. IT’S SOMETHING WE DON’T HAVE THE 855 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:36,361 IT’S SOMETHING WE DON’T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO RIGHT NOW BUT 856 00:27:36,372 --> 00:27:37,839 CAPABILITY TO DO RIGHT NOW BUT SHOULDN’T GET TO THE POINT WHERE 857 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,997 SHOULDN’T GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE DOING IT. 858 00:27:39,008 --> 00:27:43,468 WE ACTUALLY ARE DOING IT. >> CONGRESSMAN, AS YOU KNOW, 859 00:27:43,479 --> 00:27:44,446 >> CONGRESSMAN, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THE 860 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,270 THERE IS A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS EFFECTIVELY 861 00:27:45,281 --> 00:27:47,649 FACT THAT THERE IS EFFECTIVELY THIS RACE WITH CHINA WHEN IT 862 00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:49,050 THIS RACE WITH CHINA WHEN IT COMES TO AI. 863 00:27:49,051 --> 00:27:50,942 COMES TO AI. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TALKED ABOUT 864 00:27:50,953 --> 00:27:51,476 PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS. 865 00:27:51,487 --> 00:27:53,788 THIS. IF CHINA DOESN’T SLOW DOWN ITS 866 00:27:53,789 --> 00:27:54,712 IF CHINA DOESN’T SLOW DOWN ITS PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF 867 00:27:54,723 --> 00:27:55,423 PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF AI, HOW CAN THE UNITED STATES 868 00:27:55,458 --> 00:27:58,884 AI, HOW CAN THE UNITED STATES AFFORD IT? 869 00:27:58,895 --> 00:28:01,586 AFFORD IT? >> WELL, WE HAD A BIG HEARING 870 00:28:01,597 --> 00:28:04,022 >> WELL, WE HAD A BIG HEARING THAT I LED ON WHAT AN AGREEMENT 871 00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:05,734 THAT I LED ON WHAT AN AGREEMENT WITH CHINA COULD LOOK LIKE. 872 00:28:05,768 --> 00:28:07,292 WITH CHINA COULD LOOK LIKE. I AM GLAD THEY AT LEAST HAVE 873 00:28:07,303 --> 00:28:09,504 I AM GLAD THEY AT LEAST HAVE TAKEN A STEP, WHICH IS TO SAY 874 00:28:09,505 --> 00:28:11,663 TAKEN A STEP, WHICH IS TO SAY LET’S HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT AI. 875 00:28:11,674 --> 00:28:14,876 LET’S HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT AI. WHAT WE NEED ACTUALLY IS A 876 00:28:14,877 --> 00:28:15,500 WHAT WE NEED ACTUALLY IS A WORKING GROUP WITH OUR 877 00:28:15,511 --> 00:28:19,037 WORKING GROUP WITH OUR TECHNOLOGISTS AND CHINESE 878 00:28:19,048 --> 00:28:21,149 TECHNOLOGISTS AND CHINESE TECHNOLOGISTS ABOUT A COMMON 879 00:28:21,184 --> 00:28:21,540 TECHNOLOGISTS ABOUT A COMMON AGREEMENT. 880 00:28:21,551 --> 00:28:23,618 AGREEMENT. BANNING SELF-RECURSIVE 881 00:28:23,619 --> 00:28:26,387 BANNING SELF-RECURSIVE SELF-IMPROVING AI SHOULD NOT BE 882 00:28:26,422 --> 00:28:26,845 SELF-IMPROVING AI SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL. 883 00:28:26,856 --> 00:28:28,190 CONTROVERSIAL. CHINA DOESN’T WANT TO LOSE 884 00:28:28,224 --> 00:28:29,624 CHINA DOESN’T WANT TO LOSE CONTROL OVER AI MODELS EITHER. 885 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:32,827 CONTROL OVER AI MODELS EITHER. IN FACT, AS A MUCH MORE CLOSED 886 00:28:32,829 --> 00:28:34,420 IN FACT, AS A MUCH MORE CLOSED SOCIETY, RECURSIVE 887 00:28:34,431 --> 00:28:36,454 SOCIETY, RECURSIVE SELF-IMPROVING AI IS BIGGER RISK 888 00:28:36,465 --> 00:28:37,065 SELF-IMPROVING AI IS BIGGER RISK TO THEM. 889 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,857 TO THEM. I BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES CAN 890 00:28:38,868 --> 00:28:40,836 I BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES CAN LEAD ON A TREATY THAT IS BOTH 891 00:28:40,837 --> 00:28:45,140 LEAD ON A TREATY THAT IS BOTH ENFORCEABLE AND VERIFIABLE ARE 892 00:28:45,141 --> 00:28:46,208 ENFORCEABLE AND VERIFIABLE ARE WHERE WE BAN RECURSIVE 893 00:28:46,242 --> 00:28:48,009 WHERE WE BAN RECURSIVE SELF-IMPROVING AI HAVE SOME 894 00:28:48,011 --> 00:28:49,702 SELF-IMPROVING AI HAVE SOME MONITORING OF THESE FRONTIER 895 00:28:49,713 --> 00:28:50,068 MONITORING OF THESE FRONTIER LABS. 896 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:51,680 LABS. >> TURN TO THE POTENTIAL IMPACT 897 00:28:51,714 --> 00:28:53,505 >> TURN TO THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. 898 00:28:53,516 --> 00:28:56,651 OF THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. DEMOCRATS ALREADY DEBATING HOW 899 00:28:56,653 --> 00:28:57,419 DEMOCRATS ALREADY DEBATING HOW AGGRESSIVELY THEY SHOULD 900 00:28:57,420 --> 00:28:58,520 AGGRESSIVELY THEY SHOULD INVESTIGATE AND POTENTIALLY 901 00:28:58,521 --> 00:28:59,521 INVESTIGATE AND POTENTIALLY IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP. 902 00:28:59,522 --> 00:29:01,146 IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP. SHOULD THEY IN FACT TAKE BACK 903 00:29:01,157 --> 00:29:02,924 SHOULD THEY IN FACT TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THE HOUSE. 904 00:29:02,926 --> 00:29:06,152 CONTROL OF THE HOUSE. BUT SENATOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH IS 905 00:29:06,163 --> 00:29:06,928 BUT SENATOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH IS WARNING DEMOCRATS AGAINST DOING 906 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:07,229 WARNING DEMOCRATS AGAINST DOING THAT. 907 00:29:07,230 --> 00:29:08,554 THAT. I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF 908 00:29:08,565 --> 00:29:09,422 I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT SHE SAID AND GET YOUR 909 00:29:09,433 --> 00:29:12,190 WHAT SHE SAID AND GET YOUR REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE. 910 00:29:12,201 --> 00:29:14,736 REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE. >> DON’T BE IMPEACHING ANYBODY. 911 00:29:14,771 --> 00:29:16,238 >> DON’T BE IMPEACHING ANYBODY. LET’S JUST GET BACK TO WORK. 912 00:29:16,239 --> 00:29:18,030 LET’S JUST GET BACK TO WORK. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING IN 913 00:29:18,041 --> 00:29:20,833 I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING IN A CONFRONTATION WITH DONALD 914 00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:21,143 A CONFRONTATION WITH DONALD TRUMP. 915 00:29:21,144 --> 00:29:21,500 TRUMP. I CAN BE. 916 00:29:21,511 --> 00:29:22,969 I CAN BE. I HAVE BEEN. 917 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:26,348 I HAVE BEEN. IT’S NOT GOING TO STOP ME. 918 00:29:26,383 --> 00:29:27,106 IT’S NOT GOING TO STOP ME. I WOULD RATHER MOVE THE BALL 919 00:29:27,117 --> 00:29:29,318 I WOULD RATHER MOVE THE BALL FORWARD TO BENEFIT THE AMERICAN 920 00:29:29,352 --> 00:29:29,751 FORWARD TO BENEFIT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 921 00:29:29,753 --> 00:29:31,053 PEOPLE. >> IS IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP 922 00:29:31,054 --> 00:29:31,710 >> IS IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP A THIRD TIME A MISTAKE FOR 923 00:29:31,721 --> 00:29:35,457 A THIRD TIME A MISTAKE FOR DEMOCRATS? 924 00:29:35,492 --> 00:29:37,416 DEMOCRATS? >> NO, IT’S NOT BECAUSE IT’S NOT 925 00:29:37,427 --> 00:29:38,361 >> NO, IT’S NOT BECAUSE IT’S NOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. 926 00:29:38,395 --> 00:29:40,620 ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. HE IS GOING TO BE A LAME DUCK 927 00:29:40,631 --> 00:29:43,599 HE IS GOING TO BE A LAME DUCK AND IN MY VIEW LARGELY 928 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,533 AND IN MY VIEW LARGELY INCREASINGLY IRRELEVANT. 929 00:29:44,568 --> 00:29:47,727 INCREASINGLY IRRELEVANT. THE POINT IS TO STAND UP FOR THE 930 00:29:47,738 --> 00:29:48,437 THE POINT IS TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION. 931 00:29:48,472 --> 00:29:50,129 CONSTITUTION. IMPEACHMENT SAYS THAT YOU CAN’T 932 00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:53,142 IMPEACHMENT SAYS THAT YOU CAN’T GET INTO AN ILLEGAL WAR IN IRAN 933 00:29:53,176 --> 00:29:54,867 GET INTO AN ILLEGAL WAR IN IRAN WITHOUT CONSTITUTIONAL APPROVAL. 934 00:29:54,878 --> 00:29:58,981 WITHOUT CONSTITUTIONAL APPROVAL. IMPEACHMENT SAYS YOU CAN’T JUST 935 00:29:58,982 --> 00:30:00,382 IMPEACHMENT SAYS YOU CAN’T JUST START FIRING FEDERAL EMPLOYEES 936 00:30:00,384 --> 00:30:02,585 START FIRING FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHEN -- IN DEFIANCE OF WHAT 937 00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:03,109 WHEN -- IN DEFIANCE OF WHAT CONGRESS SAYS. 938 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,979 CONGRESS SAYS. IT SAYS YOU CAN’T DO DEALS WITH 939 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:06,779 IT SAYS YOU CAN’T DO DEALS WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO ALLEGEDLY 940 00:30:06,790 --> 00:30:07,923 FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO ALLEGEDLY ENRICH YOUR OWN FAMILY. 941 00:30:07,925 --> 00:30:10,550 ENRICH YOUR OWN FAMILY. IT’S ABOUT SETTING A STANDARD. 942 00:30:10,561 --> 00:30:14,363 IT’S ABOUT SETTING A STANDARD. AND THE DEMOCRATS CAN IMPEACH TO 943 00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:15,154 AND THE DEMOCRATS CAN IMPEACH TO UPHOLD CONSTITUTIONAL VALUES AT 944 00:30:15,165 --> 00:30:16,723 UPHOLD CONSTITUTIONAL VALUES AT THE SAME TIME HAVE A FIRST 100 945 00:30:16,734 --> 00:30:18,702 THE SAME TIME HAVE A FIRST 100 DAY AGENDA THAT DEALS WITH THE 946 00:30:18,736 --> 00:30:20,760 DAY AGENDA THAT DEALS WITH THE COST OF LIVING TO HAVE 947 00:30:20,771 --> 00:30:21,104 COST OF LIVING TO HAVE CHILDCARE. 948 00:30:21,138 --> 00:30:23,262 CHILDCARE. I JUST UNLEASHED A FREE 949 00:30:23,273 --> 00:30:24,307 I JUST UNLEASHED A FREE CHILDCARE PLAN TO HAVE AN 950 00:30:24,341 --> 00:30:25,498 CHILDCARE PLAN TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE, TO 951 00:30:25,509 --> 00:30:27,934 INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE, TO HAVE PAID FAMILY LEAVE, TO TAX 952 00:30:27,945 --> 00:30:32,515 HAVE PAID FAMILY LEAVE, TO TAX THE BILLIONAIRES. 953 00:30:32,516 --> 00:30:33,006 THE BILLIONAIRES. WE CAN DO BOTH. 954 00:30:33,017 --> 00:30:33,440 WE CAN DO BOTH. >> ALL RIGHT. 955 00:30:33,451 --> 00:30:35,451 >> ALL RIGHT. CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA, THANK 956 00:30:35,452 --> 00:30:35,751 CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA, THANK YOU. 957 00:30:35,753 --> 00:30:36,643 YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE 958 00:30:36,654 --> 00:30:37,077 WE APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE THIS MORNING. 959 00:30:37,088 --> 00:30:39,389 THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 960 00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:41,157 THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> APPRECIATE YOU, KRISTEN. 961 00:30:41,158 --> 00:30:42,482 >> APPRECIATE YOU, KRISTEN. >> WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE 962 00:30:42,493 --> 00:30:44,861 >> WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE MIDTERMS CHOOSING IN, THE PANEL 963 00:30:44,862 --> 00:30:46,863 MIDTERMS CHOOSING IN, THE PANEL ON WHY SOME REPUBLICANS ARE 964 00:30:46,864 --> 00:30:48,732 ON WHY SOME REPUBLICANS ARE DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM 965 00:30:48,766 --> 00:30:49,332 DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. 966 00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:49,666 PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND STILL AHEAD, OUR 967 00:31:00,578 --> 00:31:01,635 >>> WELCOME BACK. 968 00:31:01,646 --> 00:31:03,847 >>> WELCOME BACK. THE PANEL IS HERE. 969 00:31:03,848 --> 00:31:04,981 THE PANEL IS HERE. NBC NEWS CHIEF CAPITOL HILL 970 00:31:04,982 --> 00:31:06,406 NBC NEWS CHIEF CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT RYAN NOBLES, 971 00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:07,851 CORRESPONDENT RYAN NOBLES, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST ADRIENNE 972 00:31:07,885 --> 00:31:09,776 DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST ADRIENNE ELROD, AND MARC SHORT, FORMER 973 00:31:09,787 --> 00:31:10,910 ELROD, AND MARC SHORT, FORMER TRUMP DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE 974 00:31:10,921 --> 00:31:11,254 TRUMP DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS. 975 00:31:11,289 --> 00:31:12,956 AFFAIRS. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BEING 976 00:31:12,957 --> 00:31:14,691 THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE, RYAN, I HAVE TO START WITH 977 00:31:14,692 --> 00:31:14,991 HERE, RYAN, I HAVE TO START WITH YOU. 978 00:31:14,992 --> 00:31:16,916 YOU. WHAT MADE THIS WEEK THE PAST FEW 979 00:31:16,927 --> 00:31:19,229 WHAT MADE THIS WEEK THE PAST FEW WEEKS SO NOTE SBL IS WE ARE 980 00:31:19,263 --> 00:31:21,154 WEEKS SO NOTE SBL IS WE ARE STARTING TO SEE REPUBLICANS 981 00:31:21,165 --> 00:31:22,422 STARTING TO SEE REPUBLICANS BREAK WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP 982 00:31:22,433 --> 00:31:24,701 BREAK WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP INCLUDING ON THIS ISSUE OF IRAN. 983 00:31:24,702 --> 00:31:26,336 INCLUDING ON THIS ISSUE OF IRAN. MIKE ROGERS, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYING 984 00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:27,770 MIKE ROGERS, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYING IT’S TIME FOR THIS WAR TO END. 985 00:31:27,772 --> 00:31:30,297 IT’S TIME FOR THIS WAR TO END. WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES TELLING 986 00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:31,799 WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES TELLING YOU ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITHIN 987 00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:32,132 YOU ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITHIN THE GOP? 988 00:31:32,143 --> 00:31:34,645 THE GOP? >> THE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE IN 989 00:31:34,679 --> 00:31:35,302 >> THE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE IN VERY DIFFICULT RACES ARE 990 00:31:35,313 --> 00:31:37,037 VERY DIFFICULT RACES ARE RECOGNIZING THE REALITY ON THE 991 00:31:37,048 --> 00:31:37,348 RECOGNIZING THE REALITY ON THE GROUND. 992 00:31:37,382 --> 00:31:39,640 GROUND. IT COST MY WIFE $75 TO FILL UP 993 00:31:39,651 --> 00:31:41,751 IT COST MY WIFE $75 TO FILL UP OUR FAMILY VAN LAST WEEK AND 994 00:31:41,786 --> 00:31:42,542 OUR FAMILY VAN LAST WEEK AND THAT’S THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT 995 00:31:42,553 --> 00:31:43,887 THAT’S THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT AMERICANS ARE HAVING ALL ACROSS 996 00:31:43,922 --> 00:31:44,388 AMERICANS ARE HAVING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 997 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:46,323 THE COUNTRY. AND IF YOU’RE A REPUBLICAN IN 998 00:31:46,324 --> 00:31:47,447 AND IF YOU’RE A REPUBLICAN IN ONE THESE DIFFICULT RACES, YOU 999 00:31:47,458 --> 00:31:49,426 ONE THESE DIFFICULT RACES, YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO 1000 00:31:49,427 --> 00:31:53,463 HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF FROM THE 1001 00:31:53,498 --> 00:31:54,054 DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF FROM THE REALITY ON THE GROUND. 1002 00:31:54,065 --> 00:31:57,701 REALITY ON THE GROUND. AND ONE THE EASY WAYS IS TO SAY 1003 00:31:57,735 --> 00:31:58,592 AND ONE THE EASY WAYS IS TO SAY IT’S TIME TO WRAP THIS UP. 1004 00:31:58,603 --> 00:31:59,393 IT’S TIME TO WRAP THIS UP. THAT IS THE QUICKEST PATH 1005 00:31:59,404 --> 00:31:59,994 THAT IS THE QUICKEST PATH TOWARDS THESE PRICES 1006 00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,004 TOWARDS THESE PRICES PARTICULARLY THE PRICES AT THE 1007 00:32:01,005 --> 00:32:01,495 PARTICULARLY THE PRICES AT THE PUMP COMING DOWN. 1008 00:32:01,506 --> 00:32:03,964 PUMP COMING DOWN. IT’S NOT AN EASY EASY SOLVE FOR 1009 00:32:03,975 --> 00:32:04,809 IT’S NOT AN EASY EASY SOLVE FOR REPUBLICANS, PARTICULARLY 1010 00:32:04,843 --> 00:32:06,000 REPUBLICANS, PARTICULARLY REPUBLICANS LIKE ASHLEY HINSON 1011 00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,335 REPUBLICANS LIKE ASHLEY HINSON IN IOWA WHO VOTED TO ALLOW THE 1012 00:32:08,346 --> 00:32:10,070 IN IOWA WHO VOTED TO ALLOW THE WAR TO CONTINUE, TO TRY TO 1013 00:32:10,081 --> 00:32:11,181 WAR TO CONTINUE, TO TRY TO CONVINCE VOTERS AT THIS STAGE OF 1014 00:32:11,216 --> 00:32:13,174 CONVINCE VOTERS AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME THAT YOU HAVE DAYLIGHT 1015 00:32:13,185 --> 00:32:14,885 THE GAME THAT YOU HAVE DAYLIGHT BETWEEN YOU AND THE WHITE HOUSE 1016 00:32:14,919 --> 00:32:16,610 BETWEEN YOU AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOT AN EASY TASK AND ONE OF 1017 00:32:16,621 --> 00:32:18,722 IS NOT AN EASY TASK AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THESE 1018 00:32:18,723 --> 00:32:19,613 THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THESE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HAVE IN 1019 00:32:19,624 --> 00:32:21,248 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM HEADING INTO 1020 00:32:21,259 --> 00:32:21,625 FRONT OF THEM HEADING INTO NOVEMBER. 1021 00:32:21,626 --> 00:32:23,827 NOVEMBER. >> MARC, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF 1022 00:32:23,828 --> 00:32:27,354 >> MARC, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT MOVING 1023 00:32:27,365 --> 00:32:28,422 THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT MOVING 15 HOUSE RACES IN THREE SENATE 1024 00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:30,057 15 HOUSE RACES IN THREE SENATE RACES TOWARDS DEMOCRATS, WHAT DO 1025 00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:31,292 RACES TOWARDS DEMOCRATS, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS CLIMATE? 1026 00:32:31,303 --> 00:32:33,537 YOU MAKE OF THIS CLIMATE? >> LOOK, WE KNEW IT WOULD BE A 1027 00:32:33,572 --> 00:32:34,796 >> LOOK, WE KNEW IT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT. 1028 00:32:34,807 --> 00:32:36,841 DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF HEADWINDS. 1029 00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:38,766 THERE ARE A LOT OF HEADWINDS. AMERICANS PREFER A DIVIDED 1030 00:32:38,777 --> 00:32:39,176 AMERICANS PREFER A DIVIDED GOVERNMENT. 1031 00:32:39,177 --> 00:32:40,577 GOVERNMENT. I DON’T THINK THE WHITE HOUSE IS 1032 00:32:40,579 --> 00:32:41,345 I DON’T THINK THE WHITE HOUSE IS DOING CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS 1033 00:32:41,346 --> 00:32:41,745 DOING CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS ANY FAVORS. 1034 00:32:41,747 --> 00:32:43,304 ANY FAVORS. I THINK THAT TRUMP WAS ELECTED 1035 00:32:43,315 --> 00:32:45,149 I THINK THAT TRUMP WAS ELECTED IN PART BECAUSE OF HIGH 1036 00:32:45,183 --> 00:32:46,650 IN PART BECAUSE OF HIGH INFLATION UNDER THE PREVIOUS 1037 00:32:46,651 --> 00:32:48,108 INFLATION UNDER THE PREVIOUS REGIME AND ADDRESS FORD BT. 1038 00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:49,777 REGIME AND ADDRESS FORD BT. WE LEARNED THAT THE POPULOUS 1039 00:32:49,788 --> 00:32:51,222 WE LEARNED THAT THE POPULOUS ECONOMICS ISN’T WORKING AND I 1040 00:32:51,256 --> 00:32:52,289 ECONOMICS ISN’T WORKING AND I THINK ONE OF OUR BETTER 1041 00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:53,690 THINK ONE OF OUR BETTER OPPORTUNITIES I THINK ONE THE 1042 00:32:53,692 --> 00:32:54,949 OPPORTUNITIES I THINK ONE THE REASONS THAT SOME OF THE GAINS 1043 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,018 REASONS THAT SOME OF THE GAINS WILL BE LIMITED ON THE 1044 00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:58,195 WILL BE LIMITED ON THE DEMOCRATS’ SIDE BECAUSE THEY 1045 00:32:58,196 --> 00:33:01,689 DEMOCRATS’ SIDE BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- SO MANY SOCIALISTS, 1046 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:02,233 HAVE -- SO MANY SOCIALISTS, FAR-LEFT CANDIDATES. 1047 00:33:02,267 --> 00:33:03,424 FAR-LEFT CANDIDATES. KRISTEN, IT’S HARDER TO MAKE THE 1048 00:33:03,435 --> 00:33:05,293 KRISTEN, IT’S HARDER TO MAKE THE CASE WHEN THIS WEEK ALONE THE 1049 00:33:05,304 --> 00:33:10,999 CASE WHEN THIS WEEK ALONE THE PRESIDENT GOES TO NEW YORK AND 1050 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:12,343 PRESIDENT GOES TO NEW YORK AND EMBRACES AND LAVICIOUS 1051 00:33:12,377 --> 00:33:12,900 EMBRACES AND LAVICIOUS MAMMOGRAMS MAMDANI 1052 00:33:12,911 --> 00:33:18,215 MAMMOGRAMS MAMDANI WITH PRAISE, AN INTERVIEW 1053 00:33:18,217 --> 00:33:18,940 WITH PRAISE, AN INTERVIEW PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE AGAINST 1054 00:33:18,951 --> 00:33:19,950 PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE AGAINST AMERICAN SOLDIERS, SAILORS AND 1055 00:33:19,985 --> 00:33:20,818 AMERICAN SOLDIERS, SAILORS AND AIRMEN AND THE WHITE HOUSE 1056 00:33:20,819 --> 00:33:22,843 AIRMEN AND THE WHITE HOUSE INCITED PUTIN TO COME TO AMERICA 1057 00:33:22,854 --> 00:33:25,613 INCITED PUTIN TO COME TO AMERICA FOR THE G20 SUMMIT WHEN HE WAS 1058 00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:26,257 FOR THE G20 SUMMIT WHEN HE WAS KICKED OFF OUT AFTER THE 1059 00:33:26,291 --> 00:33:27,515 KICKED OFF OUT AFTER THE INVASION OF CRIMEA. 1060 00:33:27,526 --> 00:33:32,153 INVASION OF CRIMEA. LOOK HOW RADICAL THE SOCIALIST 1061 00:33:32,164 --> 00:33:34,566 LOOK HOW RADICAL THE SOCIALIST ARE, THIS WEEK DOESN’T HELP THAT 1062 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:34,999 ARE, THIS WEEK DOESN’T HELP THAT MESSAGING. 1063 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,358 MESSAGING. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE 1064 00:33:37,369 --> 00:33:38,269 >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES, WE ARE SEEING FORMER 1065 00:33:38,304 --> 00:33:39,094 CANDIDATES, WE ARE SEEING FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE KAMALA 1066 00:33:39,105 --> 00:33:42,206 VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE KAMALA HARRIS OUT ON THE TRAIL. 1067 00:33:42,208 --> 00:33:48,513 HARRIS OUT ON THE TRAIL. SHE WAS CAMPAIGNING WITH ABDUL 1068 00:33:48,514 --> 00:33:50,772 SHE WAS CAMPAIGNING WITH ABDUL AL SYED. 1069 00:33:50,783 --> 00:33:51,682 AL SYED. SHE IS NOT CAMPAIGNING WITH THE 1070 00:33:51,717 --> 00:33:54,719 SHE IS NOT CAMPAIGNING WITH THE LIKES OF JAMES TELL RICO, MARY 1071 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,044 LIKES OF JAMES TELL RICO, MARY IN ALASKA, FOR EXAMPLE. 1072 00:33:56,055 --> 00:33:59,681 IN ALASKA, FOR EXAMPLE. HOW DO YOU SEE HER ROLE 1073 00:33:59,692 --> 00:34:01,626 HOW DO YOU SEE HER ROLE UNFOLDING BETWEEN NOW AND 1074 00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:02,083 UNFOLDING BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY? 1075 00:34:02,094 --> 00:34:04,629 ELECTION DAY? >> THERE ARE PLACES WHERE VICE 1076 00:34:04,664 --> 00:34:05,354 >> THERE ARE PLACES WHERE VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS PERFORMANCE 1077 00:34:05,365 --> 00:34:09,734 PRESIDENT HARRIS PERFORMANCE WELL AND PLACES SHE DOESN’T. 1078 00:34:09,735 --> 00:34:11,192 WELL AND PLACES SHE DOESN’T. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS DOES VERY 1079 00:34:11,203 --> 00:34:12,404 VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS DOES VERY WELL WITH BLACK VOTERS. 1080 00:34:12,438 --> 00:34:15,440 WELL WITH BLACK VOTERS. THE EVENTS WITH DR. AL SAYED WAS 1081 00:34:15,441 --> 00:34:18,667 THE EVENTS WITH DR. AL SAYED WAS A BLACK MATERNAL HEALTH EVENT. 1082 00:34:18,678 --> 00:34:19,401 A BLACK MATERNAL HEALTH EVENT. THERE ARE PLACES SHE WILL BE 1083 00:34:19,412 --> 00:34:19,811 THERE ARE PLACES SHE WILL BE EFFECTIVE. 1084 00:34:19,845 --> 00:34:20,702 EFFECTIVE. SHE WILL INCOME GEORGIA, FOR 1085 00:34:20,713 --> 00:34:21,713 SHE WILL INCOME GEORGIA, FOR EXAMPLE. 1086 00:34:21,747 --> 00:34:22,537 EXAMPLE. ACROSS THE BOARD THERE ARE 1087 00:34:22,548 --> 00:34:24,682 ACROSS THE BOARD THERE ARE PLACES WHERE SOMEBODY LIKE 1088 00:34:24,684 --> 00:34:26,308 PLACES WHERE SOMEBODY LIKE SECRETARY FORMER TRANSPORTATION 1089 00:34:26,319 --> 00:34:27,051 SECRETARY FORMER TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG DOES 1090 00:34:27,086 --> 00:34:28,286 SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG DOES REALLY WELL. 1091 00:34:28,287 --> 00:34:29,110 REALLY WELL. PLACES HE DOESN’T. 1092 00:34:29,121 --> 00:34:31,256 PLACES HE DOESN’T. STILL ONE THE MOST POPULAR 1093 00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:32,313 STILL ONE THE MOST POPULAR SURROGATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC 1094 00:34:32,324 --> 00:34:35,126 SURROGATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO HAS UNIVERSAL APPEAL 1095 00:34:35,161 --> 00:34:35,817 PARTY WHO HAS UNIVERSAL APPEAL IS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. 1096 00:34:35,828 --> 00:34:37,262 IS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. I THINK YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF 1097 00:34:37,296 --> 00:34:38,863 I THINK YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF CANDIDATES THIS CYCLE EMBRACING 1098 00:34:38,865 --> 00:34:39,965 CANDIDATES THIS CYCLE EMBRACING SORT OF THE NEW WHO ARE GOING TO 1099 00:34:39,966 --> 00:34:44,002 SORT OF THE NEW WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE NEW FACES OF 2028, AOC IS 1100 00:34:44,003 --> 00:34:45,103 BE THE NEW FACES OF 2028, AOC IS SOMEBODY CAMPAIGNING MORE FOR 1101 00:34:45,104 --> 00:34:46,595 SOMEBODY CAMPAIGNING MORE FOR SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES. 1102 00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:47,729 SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES. DEPENDS WHERE WE ARE GOING IN 1103 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:49,675 DEPENDS WHERE WE ARE GOING IN THE COUNTRY, WHERE THE RACE IS. 1104 00:34:49,709 --> 00:34:51,767 THE COUNTRY, WHERE THE RACE IS. >> YEAH, RACE DEPENDENT FOR 1105 00:34:51,778 --> 00:34:53,178 >> YEAH, RACE DEPENDENT FOR SURE, RYAN, AS WE HAVE THIS 1106 00:34:53,179 --> 00:34:53,669 SURE, RYAN, AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. 1107 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,906 CONVERSATION. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT 1108 00:34:56,917 --> 00:34:59,317 YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WASHINGTON MIGHT LOOK LIKE 1109 00:34:59,319 --> 00:34:59,742 WASHINGTON MIGHT LOOK LIKE POST-NOVEMBER. 1110 00:34:59,753 --> 00:35:03,255 POST-NOVEMBER. PART OF WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING 1111 00:35:03,289 --> 00:35:04,122 PART OF WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING WITH YAES MAN RO KHANNA WHO 1112 00:35:04,124 --> 00:35:04,981 WITH YAES MAN RO KHANNA WHO BACKED AWAY FROM WHAT SENATOR 1113 00:35:04,992 --> 00:35:06,648 BACKED AWAY FROM WHAT SENATOR DUCKWORTH SAID, SAID, NO, HE 1114 00:35:06,659 --> 00:35:07,826 DUCKWORTH SAID, SAID, NO, HE DOESN’T THINK TAKING IMPEACHMENT 1115 00:35:07,827 --> 00:35:09,418 DOESN’T THINK TAKING IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE IS THE RIGHT MOVE. 1116 00:35:09,429 --> 00:35:11,220 OFF THE TABLE IS THE RIGHT MOVE. WHAT IS YOUR REPORTING TELLING 1117 00:35:11,231 --> 00:35:12,164 WHAT IS YOUR REPORTING TELLING YOU ABOUT HOW AGGRESSIVE 1118 00:35:12,198 --> 00:35:13,789 YOU ABOUT HOW AGGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS ARE GEARING UP TO BE 1119 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,534 DEMOCRATS ARE GEARING UP TO BE SHOULD THEY IN FACT WIN BACK THE 1120 00:35:15,535 --> 00:35:15,834 SHOULD THEY IN FACT WIN BACK THE HOUSE? 1121 00:35:15,835 --> 00:35:17,402 HOUSE? >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO 1122 00:35:17,404 --> 00:35:18,761 >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. 1123 00:35:18,772 --> 00:35:21,073 LOOK AT THIS. THERE IS NO DOUBT AN ENERGY AND 1124 00:35:21,107 --> 00:35:22,798 THERE IS NO DOUBT AN ENERGY AND A COMMITMENT BY DEMOCRATS WHEN 1125 00:35:22,809 --> 00:35:25,544 A COMMITMENT BY DEMOCRATS WHEN THEY GET THE MAJORITY IF THEY 1126 00:35:25,545 --> 00:35:27,212 THEY GET THE MAJORITY IF THEY GET THE MAJORITY TO CONDUCT 1127 00:35:27,213 --> 00:35:27,869 GET THE MAJORITY TO CONDUCT ROBUST OVERSIGHT OF THE 1128 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,380 ROBUST OVERSIGHT OF THE ADMINISTRATION. 1129 00:35:28,415 --> 00:35:30,373 ADMINISTRATION. THAT MEANS INVESTIGATIONS, IT 1130 00:35:30,384 --> 00:35:34,720 THAT MEANS INVESTIGATIONS, IT MEANS ROBERT GARCIA BECOMES THE 1131 00:35:34,754 --> 00:35:36,178 MEANS ROBERT GARCIA BECOMES THE CHAIR OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE 1132 00:35:36,189 --> 00:35:36,946 CHAIR OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ISSUES SUBPOENAS. 1133 00:35:36,957 --> 00:35:38,124 ISSUES SUBPOENAS. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT 1134 00:35:38,158 --> 00:35:43,562 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT LEADS TO IMPEACHMENT. 1135 00:35:43,563 --> 00:35:44,353 THAT LEADS TO IMPEACHMENT. OVERSIENGT, IMPEACHMENT ARE TWO 1136 00:35:44,364 --> 00:35:44,987 OVERSIENGT, IMPEACHMENT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 1137 00:35:44,998 --> 00:35:45,655 DIFFERENT THINGS. IMPEACHMENT DONALD TRUMP HAS 1138 00:35:45,666 --> 00:35:46,398 IMPEACHMENT DONALD TRUMP HAS MADE IT HIS FOIL, USED IT TO 1139 00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:48,190 MADE IT HIS FOIL, USED IT TO TURN OUT HIS BASE. 1140 00:35:48,201 --> 00:35:50,960 TURN OUT HIS BASE. AND THERE IS NO SCENARIO IN 1141 00:35:50,971 --> 00:35:51,938 AND THERE IS NO SCENARIO IN WHICH AN IMPEACHMENT PROCESS 1142 00:35:51,972 --> 00:35:53,339 WHICH AN IMPEACHMENT PROCESS LEADS TO A CONVICTION BECAUSE 1143 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:54,831 LEADS TO A CONVICTION BECAUSE THE VOTES WILL NEVER BE THERE IN 1144 00:35:54,842 --> 00:35:56,165 THE VOTES WILL NEVER BE THERE IN THE SENATE. 1145 00:35:56,176 --> 00:35:57,233 THE SENATE. I THINK HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 1146 00:35:57,244 --> 00:35:58,768 I THINK HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP WOULD PREFER TO NOT 1147 00:35:58,779 --> 00:36:00,303 LEADERSHIP WOULD PREFER TO NOT EVEN GO DOWN THE IMPEACHMENT 1148 00:36:00,314 --> 00:36:00,579 EVEN GO DOWN THE IMPEACHMENT ROAD. 1149 00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:02,247 ROAD. THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE GOING TO 1150 00:36:02,282 --> 00:36:05,541 THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A A<=rSLIM MAJORITY IF THEY 1151 00:36:05,552 --> 00:36:05,975 HAVE A A<=rSLIM MAJORITY IF THEY THE MAJORITY. 1152 00:36:05,986 --> 00:36:07,143 THE MAJORITY. THERE IS ENERGY AMONG THE BASE 1153 00:36:07,154 --> 00:36:08,254 THERE IS ENERGY AMONG THE BASE OF THE PARTY TO GO AFTER DONALD 1154 00:36:08,255 --> 00:36:09,846 OF THE PARTY TO GO AFTER DONALD TRUMP IN THIS FASHION AND THEN 1155 00:36:09,857 --> 00:36:11,413 TRUMP IN THIS FASHION AND THEN WHAT IF ONE OF THESE 1156 00:36:11,424 --> 00:36:12,358 WHAT IF ONE OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS REVEALS SOMETHING 1157 00:36:12,392 --> 00:36:14,283 INVESTIGATIONS REVEALS SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE BELIEVES IS 1158 00:36:14,294 --> 00:36:14,717 THAT SOMEONE BELIEVES IS IMPEACHABLE? 1159 00:36:14,728 --> 00:36:16,696 IMPEACHABLE? IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT STOP 1160 00:36:16,697 --> 00:36:17,187 IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT STOP THAT TRAIN. 1161 00:36:17,198 --> 00:36:18,888 THAT TRAIN. >> THERE IS CONCERN IT COULD 1162 00:36:18,899 --> 00:36:19,589 >> THERE IS CONCERN IT COULD BACKFIRE AGAINST DEMOCRATS 1163 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,234 BACKFIRE AGAINST DEMOCRATS SHOULD THEY TAKE BACK THE HOUSE 1164 00:36:21,268 --> 00:36:23,493 SHOULD THEY TAKE BACK THE HOUSE SHOULD THEY GO DOWN THE 1165 00:36:23,504 --> 00:36:23,994 SHOULD THEY GO DOWN THE IMPEACHMENT RATE? 1166 00:36:24,005 --> 00:36:25,595 IMPEACHMENT RATE? >> RYAN LAID IT OUT PERFECTLY. 1167 00:36:25,606 --> 00:36:28,298 >> RYAN LAID IT OUT PERFECTLY. NUMBER ONE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE 1168 00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:29,098 NUMBER ONE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE AND LEADER JEFFRIES MADE IT 1169 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:30,676 AND LEADER JEFFRIES MADE IT CLEAR HE HAS AN AGENDA ON DAY 1170 00:36:30,678 --> 00:36:33,303 CLEAR HE HAS AN AGENDA ON DAY ONE IF HE BECOMES THE SPEAKER 1171 00:36:33,314 --> 00:36:34,613 ONE IF HE BECOMES THE SPEAKER THAT WILL TAKE ON AND ADDRESS 1172 00:36:34,615 --> 00:36:36,182 THAT WILL TAKE ON AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY 1173 00:36:36,183 --> 00:36:37,016 THE ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY WHILE HOLDING THIS 1174 00:36:37,017 --> 00:36:38,117 WHILE HOLDING THIS ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE. 1175 00:36:38,118 --> 00:36:39,785 ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE. I WILL SAY THIS. 1176 00:36:39,787 --> 00:36:41,187 I WILL SAY THIS. IF DEMOCRATS FOCUS ON 1177 00:36:41,188 --> 00:36:42,321 IF DEMOCRATS FOCUS ON IMPEACHMENT AND IMPEACHMENT AND 1178 00:36:42,323 --> 00:36:43,246 IMPEACHMENT AND IMPEACHMENT AND IMPEACHMENT AT THE EXPENSE OF, 1179 00:36:43,257 --> 00:36:46,425 IMPEACHMENT AT THE EXPENSE OF, YOU KNOW, HELPING THE AMERICAN 1180 00:36:46,427 --> 00:36:47,627 YOU KNOW, HELPING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, LOWERING THEIR PRICES, 1181 00:36:47,628 --> 00:36:51,664 PEOPLE, LOWERING THEIR PRICES, LOWERING GAS PLACES, RESTORING 1182 00:36:51,699 --> 00:36:54,257 LOWERING GAS PLACES, RESTORING HEALTH CARE SUBSIDIES, IT 1183 00:36:54,268 --> 00:36:55,001 HEALTH CARE SUBSIDIES, IT IMPEACHMENT OVERTAKES WHY THEY 1184 00:36:55,035 --> 00:36:56,459 IMPEACHMENT OVERTAKES WHY THEY WERE ELECTED, FLIP THE HOUSE AND 1185 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:57,537 WERE ELECTED, FLIP THE HOUSE AND POTENTIALLY SENATE, THAT WILL BE 1186 00:36:57,538 --> 00:36:59,429 POTENTIALLY SENATE, THAT WILL BE AT THE EXPENSE OF DEMOCRATIC 1187 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,774 AT THE EXPENSE OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IN 2028. 1188 00:37:00,808 --> 00:37:02,842 CANDIDATES IN 2028. YOU CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE 1189 00:37:02,843 --> 00:37:03,266 YOU CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME. 1190 00:37:03,277 --> 00:37:04,077 SAME TIME. AM THAT’S WHAT DEMOCRATS WILL 1191 00:37:04,111 --> 00:37:04,367 AM THAT’S WHAT DEMOCRATS WILL DO. 1192 00:37:04,378 --> 00:37:06,213 DO. IF IMPEACHMENT IS THE OVERRIDING 1193 00:37:06,247 --> 00:37:07,170 IF IMPEACHMENT IS THE OVERRIDING THEME OF WHY DEMOCRATS WHAT 1194 00:37:07,181 --> 00:37:08,782 THEME OF WHY DEMOCRATS WHAT THEIR AGENDA IS, IT’S GOING TO 1195 00:37:08,816 --> 00:37:10,340 THEIR AGENDA IS, IT’S GOING TO HURT THEM A LOT GOING FORWARD. 1196 00:37:10,351 --> 00:37:10,674 HURT THEM A LOT GOING FORWARD. >> MARC? 1197 00:37:10,685 --> 00:37:12,652 >> MARC? >> THERE IS NO WAY DEMOCRATS CAN 1198 00:37:12,653 --> 00:37:14,144 >> THERE IS NO WAY DEMOCRATS CAN HELP THEMSELVES. 1199 00:37:14,155 --> 00:37:16,323 HELP THEMSELVES. THE REALITY IS WHAT I HEAR, THE 1200 00:37:16,357 --> 00:37:17,614 THE REALITY IS WHAT I HEAR, THE TALKING POINTS I HEAR FROM 1201 00:37:17,625 --> 00:37:18,882 TALKING POINTS I HEAR FROM DEMOCRATIC LEADERS. 1202 00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:21,351 DEMOCRATIC LEADERS. ONCE YOU START THE IMPEACHMENT 1203 00:37:21,362 --> 00:37:22,252 ONCE YOU START THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATIONS, MORE AND MORE 1204 00:37:22,263 --> 00:37:23,797 INVESTIGATIONS, MORE AND MORE INFORMATION COMES OUT, THE BASE 1205 00:37:23,831 --> 00:37:24,387 INFORMATION COMES OUT, THE BASE WILL DEMAND IT. 1206 00:37:24,398 --> 00:37:25,899 WILL DEMAND IT. ONE THING I THINK WE HAVEN’T 1207 00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:28,091 ONE THING I THINK WE HAVEN’T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH BECAUSE OF 1208 00:37:28,102 --> 00:37:29,269 TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH BECAUSE OF REDISTRICTING, THE DEMOCRATIC 1209 00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:30,937 REDISTRICTING, THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY WILL LIKELY BE NARROW 1210 00:37:30,972 --> 00:37:32,696 MAJORITY WILL LIKELY BE NARROW IN THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE WHICH 1211 00:37:32,707 --> 00:37:36,109 IN THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE WHICH MEANS A GROUP OF DEMOCRATIC 1212 00:37:36,144 --> 00:37:37,701 MEANS A GROUP OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS WILL HAVE POWER AND 1213 00:37:37,712 --> 00:37:39,169 SOCIALISTS WILL HAVE POWER AND JEFFRIES, HIS LIFE WILL BE A 1214 00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:39,546 JEFFRIES, HIS LIFE WILL BE A NIGHTMARE. 1215 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:41,247 NIGHTMARE. THAT’S GOING TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, 1216 00:37:41,249 --> 00:37:42,983 THAT’S GOING TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, THE NOTION THAT WE ARE NOT GOING 1217 00:37:42,984 --> 00:37:44,084 THE NOTION THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IMPEACHMENT FOR DEMOCRATS 1218 00:37:44,085 --> 00:37:45,309 TO DO IMPEACHMENT FOR DEMOCRATS IS THE REALITY THAT’S WHERE THEY 1219 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,319 IS THE REALITY THAT’S WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GO. 1220 00:37:46,354 --> 00:37:46,944 ARE GOING TO GO. >> GREAT CONVERSATION. 1221 00:37:46,955 --> 00:37:47,687 >> GREAT CONVERSATION. WE WILL BE WATCHING ALL OF IT 1222 00:37:47,689 --> 00:37:50,481 WE WILL BE WATCHING ALL OF IT VERY CLOSELY. 1223 00:37:50,492 --> 00:37:51,891 VERY CLOSELY. WE APPRECIATE THAT. 1224 00:37:51,893 --> 00:37:52,416 WE APPRECIATE THAT. GREAT CONVERSATION. 1225 00:37:52,427 --> 00:37:53,593 GREAT CONVERSATION. WHEN WE COME BACK, THE 1226 00:37:53,594 --> 00:37:55,962 WHEN WE COME BACK, THE PRESIDENCY AND THE BATTLE WITH 1227 00:38:08,877 --> 00:38:11,569 THIS WEEK THE ONGOING BATTLE 1228 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:13,303 THIS WEEK THE ONGOING BATTLE BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE 1229 00:38:13,314 --> 00:38:14,448 BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE MEDIA CONTINUES. 1230 00:38:14,482 --> 00:38:15,949 MEDIA CONTINUES. AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP BARRED CNN 1231 00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:18,351 AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP BARRED CNN FROM AIR FORCE ONE, IT COMES 1232 00:38:18,353 --> 00:38:20,010 FROM AIR FORCE ONE, IT COMES JUST DAYS AFTER A FEDERAL JUDGE 1233 00:38:20,021 --> 00:38:22,223 JUST DAYS AFTER A FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERED THE ADMINISTRATION TO 1234 00:38:22,257 --> 00:38:24,315 ORDERED THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESTORE WHITE HOUSE ACCESS TO 1235 00:38:24,326 --> 00:38:26,693 RESTORE WHITE HOUSE ACCESS TO CNN, MS NOW AND POLITICO. 1236 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:28,462 CNN, MS NOW AND POLITICO. TEMPORARILY BLOCKING A BAN THAT 1237 00:38:28,496 --> 00:38:31,064 TEMPORARILY BLOCKING A BAN THAT HAD KEPT THEM OUT FOR NEARLY A 1238 00:38:31,066 --> 00:38:31,799 HAD KEPT THEM OUT FOR NEARLY A WEEK. 1239 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,591 WEEK. OF COURSE, PRESIDENTS AND THE 1240 00:38:33,602 --> 00:38:36,427 OF COURSE, PRESIDENTS AND THE PRESS HAVE CLASHED BEFORE. 1241 00:38:36,438 --> 00:38:38,438 PRESS HAVE CLASHED BEFORE. IN 1997, PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON 1242 00:38:38,473 --> 00:38:39,964 IN 1997, PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON JOINED "MEET THE PRESS" AND 1243 00:38:39,975 --> 00:38:41,275 JOINED "MEET THE PRESS" AND REFLECTED ON HIS OWN SOMETIMES 1244 00:38:41,276 --> 00:38:42,032 REFLECTED ON HIS OWN SOMETIMES DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 1245 00:38:42,043 --> 00:38:45,145 DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESS. 1246 00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:49,674 PRESS. >> DO YOU THINK WE DO A GOOD 1247 00:38:49,685 --> 00:38:49,940 >> DO YOU THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB? 1248 00:38:49,951 --> 00:38:50,551 JOB? HAVE WE BEEN FAIR TO YOU? 1249 00:38:50,585 --> 00:38:51,942 HAVE WE BEEN FAIR TO YOU? >> ON BALANCE, YES. 1250 00:38:51,953 --> 00:38:52,920 >> ON BALANCE, YES. I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I DON’T 1251 00:38:52,921 --> 00:38:55,189 I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I DON’T THINK THERE HAS BEEN A PRESIDENT 1252 00:38:55,223 --> 00:38:56,890 THINK THERE HAS BEEN A PRESIDENT OF EITHER PARTY THAT DIDN’T 1253 00:38:56,892 --> 00:38:58,549 OF EITHER PARTY THAT DIDN’T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A 1254 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,217 THINK HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER PRESS. 1255 00:38:59,228 --> 00:39:01,118 BETTER PRESS. SO THAT’S JUST GOING WITH THE 1256 00:39:01,129 --> 00:39:01,528 SO THAT’S JUST GOING WITH THE TERRITORY. 1257 00:39:01,530 --> 00:39:03,464 TERRITORY. I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN RATHER 1258 00:39:03,498 --> 00:39:04,898 I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN RATHER DRAMATIC CHANGES IN PRESS 1259 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,160 DRAMATIC CHANGES IN PRESS COVERAGE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, 1260 00:39:09,171 --> 00:39:11,629 COVERAGE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, PARTICULARLY IN THE WASHINGTON 1261 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,075 PARTICULARLY IN THE WASHINGTON PRESS, WHICH BEARS SOME 1262 00:39:14,109 --> 00:39:14,842 PRESS, WHICH BEARS SOME EXAMINATION AND EVALUATION BY 1263 00:39:14,843 --> 00:39:16,167 EXAMINATION AND EVALUATION BY THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE 1264 00:39:16,178 --> 00:39:16,710 THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE PRESS. 1265 00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:17,668 PRESS. BUT I DON’T THINK THAT THE 1266 00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:18,613 BUT I DON’T THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT GETS ANYWHERE BY 1267 00:39:18,647 --> 00:39:19,770 PRESIDENT GETS ANYWHERE BY MAKING ANY COMMENTS ON THE 1268 00:39:19,781 --> 00:39:20,281 MAKING ANY COMMENTS ON THE PRESS. 1269 00:39:20,315 --> 00:39:23,974 PRESS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN 1270 00:39:23,985 --> 00:39:27,645 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT. 1271 00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:29,724 THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WHEN PRESIDENT JOHN OF CHINA WAS 1272 00:39:29,758 --> 00:39:30,982 WHEN PRESIDENT JOHN OF CHINA WAS HERE, I WAS PUSHING FREEDOM OF 1273 00:39:30,993 --> 00:39:31,492 HERE, I WAS PUSHING FREEDOM OF THE PRESS WITH HIM. 1274 00:39:31,527 --> 00:39:32,584 THE PRESS WITH HIM. I SAID IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND 1275 00:39:32,595 --> 00:39:33,728 I SAID IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND ANYBODY MORE BEAT UP THAN I HAVE 1276 00:39:33,762 --> 00:39:35,529 ANYBODY MORE BEAT UP THAN I HAVE IN THE PRESS, BUT I STILL 1277 00:39:35,531 --> 00:39:37,665 IN THE PRESS, BUT I STILL THOUGHT THE COUNTRY WAS STRONGER 1278 00:39:37,666 --> 00:39:38,523 THOUGHT THE COUNTRY WAS STRONGER WHEN WE WERE FREE TO SPEAK. 1279 00:39:38,534 --> 00:39:43,294 WHEN WE WERE FREE TO SPEAK. I RAISED THE FREE TOMORROW OF 1280 00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:49,811 I RAISED THE FREE TOMORROW OF PRESS ISSUES WHEN I WAS IN LATIN 1281 00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:50,335 PRESS ISSUES WHEN I WAS IN LATIN AMERICA RECENTLY. 1282 00:39:50,346 --> 00:39:51,002 AMERICA RECENTLY. IT’S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS 1283 00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:51,513 IT’S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. 1284 00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:52,203 ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE AND 1285 00:39:52,214 --> 00:39:52,814 HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE AND WHETHER DONE IN THE MOST 1286 00:39:52,848 --> 00:39:53,538 WHETHER DONE IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE AND EFFECTIVE WAY 1287 00:39:53,549 --> 00:39:54,172 RESPONSIBLE AND EFFECTIVE WAY CAN ONLY BE DETERMINED BY 1288 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:54,906 CAN ONLY BE DETERMINED BY MEMBERS OF THE PRESS OURSELVES 1289 00:39:54,917 --> 00:39:55,317 MEMBERS OF THE PRESS OURSELVES IN OUR SYSTEM. 1290 00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:56,084 IN OUR SYSTEM. THAT’S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN KEEP 1291 00:39:56,085 --> 00:39:57,185 THAT’S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN KEEP IT FREE. 1292 00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:58,686 IT FREE. >> WE COME BACK, BILL GATEON 1293 00:40:08,364 --> 00:40:12,157 >>> WELCOME BACK. 1294 00:40:12,168 --> 00:40:15,804 >>> WELCOME BACK. THIS WEEK CEOs OF AMERICA’S TOP 1295 00:40:15,805 --> 00:40:19,498 THIS WEEK CEOs OF AMERICA’S TOP AI COMPANIES WARNED THE UNITED 1296 00:40:19,509 --> 00:40:20,231 AI COMPANIES WARNED THE UNITED NATIONS THEIR TRILLION DOLLARS 1297 00:40:20,242 --> 00:40:21,443 NATIONS THEIR TRILLION DOLLARS TECHNOLOGY, QUOTE, COULD BE A 1298 00:40:21,477 --> 00:40:23,802 TECHNOLOGY, QUOTE, COULD BE A RISK TO HUMANITY AS A WHOLE. 1299 00:40:23,813 --> 00:40:25,580 RISK TO HUMANITY AS A WHOLE. IT’S A WARNING MICROSOFT 1300 00:40:25,581 --> 00:40:26,738 IT’S A WARNING MICROSOFT CO-FOUNDER BILL GATES SHARES. 1301 00:40:26,749 --> 00:40:29,051 CO-FOUNDER BILL GATES SHARES. HE SAYS THE DECISIONS THAT ARE 1302 00:40:29,085 --> 00:40:31,186 HE SAYS THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE RIGHT NOW COULD DETERMINE 1303 00:40:31,187 --> 00:40:33,288 MADE RIGHT NOW COULD DETERMINE BOTH THE BEST AND WORST OUTCOMES 1304 00:40:33,289 --> 00:40:35,390 BOTH THE BEST AND WORST OUTCOMES OF THE AI REVOLUTION. 1305 00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:37,349 OF THE AI REVOLUTION. WE SAT DOWN JUST BLOCKS FROM THE 1306 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,426 WE SAT DOWN JUST BLOCKS FROM THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO TALK 1307 00:40:38,427 --> 00:40:42,964 U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT. 1308 00:40:42,999 --> 00:40:48,003 ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT. LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS MOMENT IN 1309 00:40:48,004 --> 00:40:48,460 LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS MOMENT IN AI DEVELOPMENT. 1310 00:40:48,471 --> 00:40:49,305 AI DEVELOPMENT. YOU ARE ONE OF THE VOICES WHO 1311 00:40:49,338 --> 00:40:51,105 YOU ARE ONE OF THE VOICES WHO HAS BEEN WARNING ABOUT THE 1312 00:40:51,107 --> 00:40:51,730 HAS BEEN WARNING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RISKS. 1313 00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:54,533 POTENTIAL RISKS. YOU WROTE IN AUGUST, QUOTE, AI 1314 00:40:54,544 --> 00:40:57,069 YOU WROTE IN AUGUST, QUOTE, AI WILL EITHER BE THE GREATEST 1315 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,480 WILL EITHER BE THE GREATEST EQUALIZER EVER INVENTED OR THE 1316 00:40:58,514 --> 00:41:02,574 EQUALIZER EVER INVENTED OR THE WORST SOURCE OF INJUSTICE. 1317 00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:04,620 WORST SOURCE OF INJUSTICE. HOW SERIOUS ARE THE RISKS POSED 1318 00:41:04,654 --> 00:41:06,378 HOW SERIOUS ARE THE RISKS POSED BY AI DO YOU BELIEVE? 1319 00:41:06,389 --> 00:41:09,949 BY AI DO YOU BELIEVE? >> WELL, AI IS NOT JUST A NEW 1320 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,358 >> WELL, AI IS NOT JUST A NEW TECHNOLOGY. 1321 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,461 TECHNOLOGY. THAT’S WHY PEOPLE WHO SAY, OKAY, 1322 00:41:12,462 --> 00:41:13,896 THAT’S WHY PEOPLE WHO SAY, OKAY, PAST TECHNOLOGIES, THERE WAS ALL 1323 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:15,931 PAST TECHNOLOGIES, THERE WAS ALL THIS WORRY, YOU KNOW, BY AND 1324 00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:16,822 THIS WORRY, YOU KNOW, BY AND LARGE, IT ALL WORKED OUT, SO 1325 00:41:16,833 --> 00:41:20,969 LARGE, IT ALL WORKED OUT, SO MAYBE THIS TIME ALL THESE 1326 00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:23,338 MAYBE THIS TIME ALL THESE WARNINGS THAT WE HAVE TO SHAPE 1327 00:41:23,339 --> 00:41:23,895 WARNINGS THAT WE HAVE TO SHAPE IT INTENTIONALLY ARE 1328 00:41:23,906 --> 00:41:27,042 IT INTENTIONALLY ARE UNNECESSARY. 1329 00:41:27,077 --> 00:41:30,970 UNNECESSARY. THIS IS TRULY AN EVOLUTIONARY 1330 00:41:30,981 --> 00:41:31,546 THIS IS TRULY AN EVOLUTIONARY EVENT. 1331 00:41:31,548 --> 00:41:32,281 EVENT. WE HAVE CREATED AN INTELLIGENT 1332 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:36,442 WE HAVE CREATED AN INTELLIGENT SPECIES THAT MA MANY RESPECTS IS 1333 00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:39,388 SPECIES THAT MA MANY RESPECTS IS ALREADY SMARTER THAN WE ARE AND 1334 00:41:39,389 --> 00:41:41,213 ALREADY SMARTER THAN WE ARE AND OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, AT 1335 00:41:41,224 --> 00:41:46,529 OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, AT KIND OF EXPONENTIALLY IMPROVING 1336 00:41:46,563 --> 00:41:48,721 KIND OF EXPONENTIALLY IMPROVING LEVEL, WILL BE INSANELY SMARTER 1337 00:41:48,732 --> 00:41:49,188 LEVEL, WILL BE INSANELY SMARTER THAN WE ARE. 1338 00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,067 THAN WE ARE. THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER 1339 00:41:51,101 --> 00:41:51,624 THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER KNOWLEDGE. 1340 00:41:51,635 --> 00:41:52,367 KNOWLEDGE. THERE IS NO SORT OF INDIVIDUAL 1341 00:41:52,402 --> 00:41:53,168 THERE IS NO SORT OF INDIVIDUAL BOUNDARIES LIKE HUMANS HAVING TO 1342 00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:57,130 BOUNDARIES LIKE HUMANS HAVING TO EDUCATE EACH OTHER. 1343 00:41:57,141 --> 00:42:00,309 EDUCATE EACH OTHER. AND SO I CAN’T SAY STRONGLY 1344 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:03,312 AND SO I CAN’T SAY STRONGLY ENOUGH HOW MUCH SOCIETY NOT JUST 1345 00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:06,515 ENOUGH HOW MUCH SOCIETY NOT JUST THE COMPANIES, BUT EVERY 1346 00:42:06,516 --> 00:42:09,308 THE COMPANIES, BUT EVERY ACADEMIC THINK TANK, VOTER, 1347 00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:09,985 ACADEMIC THINK TANK, VOTER, POLICYMAKER NEED TO REALLY 1348 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:14,080 POLICYMAKER NEED TO REALLY ENGAGE ON HOW WE WANT TO SHAPE 1349 00:42:14,091 --> 00:42:14,881 ENGAGE ON HOW WE WANT TO SHAPE THIS TECHNOLOGY. 1350 00:42:14,892 --> 00:42:16,215 THIS TECHNOLOGY. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BEING 1351 00:42:16,226 --> 00:42:23,055 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BEING TOO FOCUSED ON ACCELERATING THE 1352 00:42:23,066 --> 00:42:23,766 TOO FOCUSED ON ACCELERATING THE GOOD POTENTIAL AND MINIMIZING 1353 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,561 GOOD POTENTIAL AND MINIMIZING SOME TRULY HORRIFIC BAD THINGS 1354 00:42:29,572 --> 00:42:32,275 SOME TRULY HORRIFIC BAD THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. 1355 00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:36,068 THAT COULD HAPPEN. >> DO YOU BELIEVE AI IS POWERFUL 1356 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:37,413 >> DO YOU BELIEVE AI IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO END ALL OF HUMANITY? 1357 00:42:37,448 --> 00:42:38,138 ENOUGH TO END ALL OF HUMANITY? >> AI IS CERTAINLY POWERFUL 1358 00:42:38,149 --> 00:42:46,979 >> AI IS CERTAINLY POWERFUL ENOUGH TO DRIVE EVENTS THAT 1359 00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:49,725 ENOUGH TO DRIVE EVENTS THAT CAUSE A BILLION DEATHS. 1360 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,227 CAUSE A BILLION DEATHS. SO EVEN THOUGH IT’S PRETTY HARD 1361 00:42:51,228 --> 00:42:52,985 SO EVEN THOUGH IT’S PRETTY HARD TO GET TO 100%, THERE IS NEVER 1362 00:42:52,996 --> 00:43:01,103 TO GET TO 100%, THERE IS NEVER BEEN A WEAPON AS POWERFUL AS THE 1363 00:43:01,138 --> 00:43:02,662 BEEN A WEAPON AS POWERFUL AS THE COMBINATION OF PEOPLE WITH ILL 1364 00:43:02,673 --> 00:43:03,339 COMBINATION OF PEOPLE WITH ILL INTENT USING THE LATEST AI 1365 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:06,375 INTENT USING THE LATEST AI TOOLS. 1366 00:43:06,377 --> 00:43:08,635 TOOLS. AND IT’S GREAT THAT THERE IS 1367 00:43:08,646 --> 00:43:10,070 AND IT’S GREAT THAT THERE IS THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE 1368 00:43:10,081 --> 00:43:10,846 THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE INDUSTRY ALMOST AGAINST THEIR 1369 00:43:10,848 --> 00:43:12,949 INDUSTRY ALMOST AGAINST THEIR INTEREST ADMITTING THESE THINGS. 1370 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:15,508 INTEREST ADMITTING THESE THINGS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE REST OF 1371 00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:16,276 THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS EITHER DISCOUNTING 1372 00:43:16,287 --> 00:43:23,059 THE WORLD IS EITHER DISCOUNTING THIS OR JUST THINKING OF THIS AS 1373 00:43:23,094 --> 00:43:24,518 THIS OR JUST THINKING OF THIS AS A COMPETITION, AND IT’S VERY 1374 00:43:24,529 --> 00:43:26,186 A COMPETITION, AND IT’S VERY SCARY THAT WE DON’T HAVE, YOU 1375 00:43:26,197 --> 00:43:31,034 SCARY THAT WE DON’T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE THINKERS SAYING 1376 00:43:31,068 --> 00:43:32,959 KNOW, ALL OF THE THINKERS SAYING HOW DO WE WANT TO SHAPE THIS. 1377 00:43:32,970 --> 00:43:34,561 HOW DO WE WANT TO SHAPE THIS. >> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT 1378 00:43:34,572 --> 00:43:37,574 >> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS THE DEBATE 1379 00:43:37,575 --> 00:43:40,133 QUESTION, WHICH IS THE DEBATE ABOUT WHAT TO DO. 1380 00:43:40,144 --> 00:43:41,979 ABOUT WHAT TO DO. THERE IS A DEBATE OVER SHOULD 1381 00:43:42,013 --> 00:43:45,606 THERE IS A DEBATE OVER SHOULD THERE BE A KILL-SWITCH THAT IS 1382 00:43:45,617 --> 00:43:45,939 THERE BE A KILL-SWITCH THAT IS IMPOSED. 1383 00:43:45,950 --> 00:43:47,551 IMPOSED. OTHERS ARE SUGGESTING A TOTAL 1384 00:43:47,585 --> 00:43:49,910 OTHERS ARE SUGGESTING A TOTAL PAUSE, AS YOU NOTE, ON AI 1385 00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:53,290 PAUSE, AS YOU NOTE, ON AI DEVELOPMENT AND SOME SAY 1386 00:43:53,291 --> 00:43:53,881 DEVELOPMENT AND SOME SAY COMPANIES CAN REGULATE 1387 00:43:53,892 --> 00:43:54,290 COMPANIES CAN REGULATE THEMSELVES. 1388 00:43:54,292 --> 00:43:55,125 THEMSELVES. HOW DO YOU BELIEVE AI SHOULD BE 1389 00:43:55,126 --> 00:43:57,227 HOW DO YOU BELIEVE AI SHOULD BE REGULATED? 1390 00:43:57,228 --> 00:43:58,695 REGULATED? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, MOST 1391 00:43:58,696 --> 00:44:01,531 WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, MOST DANGEROUS TECHNOLOGIES, THE 1392 00:44:01,532 --> 00:44:02,689 DANGEROUS TECHNOLOGIES, THE GOVERNMENT UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE 1393 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,359 GOVERNMENT UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE THEY FUNDED THE RESEARCH OR 1394 00:44:06,370 --> 00:44:07,604 THEY FUNDED THE RESEARCH OR THEY’RE AN IMPORTANT CUSTOMER 1395 00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:08,596 THEY’RE AN IMPORTANT CUSTOMER FOR NUCLEAR BOMBS OR ROCKETS OR 1396 00:44:08,607 --> 00:44:13,543 FOR NUCLEAR BOMBS OR ROCKETS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 1397 00:44:13,545 --> 00:44:14,235 THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AI HAS EMERGED FROM THE 1398 00:44:14,246 --> 00:44:16,169 AND AI HAS EMERGED FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND SO THE DEPTH 1399 00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:18,148 PRIVATE SECTOR, AND SO THE DEPTH OF UNDERSTANDING OF THESE 1400 00:44:18,149 --> 00:44:20,641 OF UNDERSTANDING OF THESE DANGEROUS THRESHOLDS THAT WERE 1401 00:44:20,652 --> 00:44:24,021 DANGEROUS THRESHOLDS THAT WERE CROSSED LITERALLY THIS YEAR, 1402 00:44:24,055 --> 00:44:25,212 CROSSED LITERALLY THIS YEAR, BIOTECH CAPABILITIES, 1403 00:44:25,223 --> 00:44:28,449 BIOTECH CAPABILITIES, CYBERATTACK CAPABILITY AND 1404 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:31,686 CYBERATTACK CAPABILITY AND OTHERS, YOU HAVE SO LITTLE 1405 00:44:31,697 --> 00:44:33,130 OTHERS, YOU HAVE SO LITTLE EXPERTISE IN THE GOVERNMENT. 1406 00:44:33,164 --> 00:44:37,424 EXPERTISE IN THE GOVERNMENT. AND BECAUSE IT’S CAST IN THIS 1407 00:44:37,435 --> 00:44:40,193 AND BECAUSE IT’S CAST IN THIS NATIONALISTIC, YOU KNOW, US 1408 00:44:40,204 --> 00:44:41,104 NATIONALISTIC, YOU KNOW, US VERSUS THEM TYPE THING, YOU HAVE 1409 00:44:41,139 --> 00:44:42,363 VERSUS THEM TYPE THING, YOU HAVE PEOPLE SAYING LET’S GO FULL 1410 00:44:42,374 --> 00:44:44,165 PEOPLE SAYING LET’S GO FULL SPEED AHEAD. 1411 00:44:44,176 --> 00:44:46,299 SPEED AHEAD. IT’S COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE 1412 00:44:46,310 --> 00:44:49,771 IT’S COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO REQUIRE EVERY AI TO HAVE 1413 00:44:49,782 --> 00:44:52,783 NOT TO REQUIRE EVERY AI TO HAVE THESE SAFEGUARDS AND MONITORING 1414 00:44:52,784 --> 00:44:53,217 THESE SAFEGUARDS AND MONITORING CAPABILITIES. 1415 00:44:53,251 --> 00:45:00,214 CAPABILITIES. AND IT ONLY IS A QUESTION OF DO 1416 00:45:00,225 --> 00:45:01,125 AND IT ONLY IS A QUESTION OF DO YOU DO IT NOW. 1417 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,751 YOU DO IT NOW. >> DO YOU THINK SELF-REGULATION 1418 00:45:03,762 --> 00:45:05,696 >> DO YOU THINK SELF-REGULATION IS SUFFICIENT OR DOES IT NEED TO 1419 00:45:05,697 --> 00:45:12,002 IS SUFFICIENT OR DOES IT NEED TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY LEGISLATION? 1420 00:45:12,003 --> 00:45:12,769 BE ACCOMPANIED BY LEGISLATION? >> NO ONE THINKS SELF-REGULATION 1421 00:45:12,771 --> 00:45:13,194 >> NO ONE THINKS SELF-REGULATION IS ENOUGH? 1422 00:45:13,205 --> 00:45:14,896 IS ENOUGH? >> THERE NEEDS TO BE LEGISLATION 1423 00:45:14,907 --> 00:45:15,496 >> THERE NEEDS TO BE LEGISLATION PASSED IN WASHINGTON? 1424 00:45:15,507 --> 00:45:16,297 PASSED IN WASHINGTON? >> ABSOLUTELY. 1425 00:45:16,308 --> 00:45:19,901 >> ABSOLUTELY. YOU NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE 1426 00:45:19,912 --> 00:45:22,336 YOU NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE POLITICIANS TO GET INTO THE 1427 00:45:22,347 --> 00:45:23,447 POLITICIANS TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SAFEGUARDS 1428 00:45:23,482 --> 00:45:25,640 DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SAFEGUARDS AND MONITORING LOOK LIKE, AND 1429 00:45:25,651 --> 00:45:29,353 AND MONITORING LOOK LIKE, AND THAT HSióHAS TO BE A REQUIRED TH 1430 00:45:29,388 --> 00:45:30,712 THAT HSióHAS TO BE A REQUIRED TH AND IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF 1431 00:45:30,723 --> 00:45:32,646 AND IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERHEAD FOR THE INDUSTRY, BUT 1432 00:45:32,657 --> 00:45:33,858 OVERHEAD FOR THE INDUSTRY, BUT NOT A DRAMATIC SLOWING OF WHAT 1433 00:45:33,892 --> 00:45:35,583 NOT A DRAMATIC SLOWING OF WHAT THEY’RE DOING. 1434 00:45:35,594 --> 00:45:37,385 THEY’RE DOING. >> YOU KNOW, IT’S INTERESTING 1435 00:45:37,396 --> 00:45:39,654 >> YOU KNOW, IT’S INTERESTING BECAUSE DURING THE COLD WAR THE 1436 00:45:39,665 --> 00:45:45,326 BECAUSE DURING THE COLD WAR THE U.S. AND THE THEN USSR WERE ABLE 1437 00:45:45,337 --> 00:45:46,027 U.S. AND THE THEN USSR WERE ABLE TO COOPERATE ON LIMITATIONS 1438 00:45:46,038 --> 00:45:46,628 TO COOPERATE ON LIMITATIONS AROUND NUCLEAR WEAPONS 1439 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:48,529 AROUND NUCLEAR WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT. 1440 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:50,875 DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT A MODEL THAT CAN BE USED 1441 00:45:50,909 --> 00:45:52,843 IS THAT A MODEL THAT CAN BE USED RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE UNITED 1442 00:45:52,845 --> 00:45:53,768 RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CHINA TO TRY TO REACH 1443 00:45:53,779 --> 00:45:56,014 STATES AND CHINA TO TRY TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON AI? 1444 00:45:56,048 --> 00:45:58,873 AN AGREEMENT ON AI? >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 1445 00:45:58,884 --> 00:46:01,252 >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT 1446 00:46:01,253 --> 00:46:01,552 THIS IS MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT WAS. 1447 00:46:01,553 --> 00:46:02,286 WAS. >> MORE DIFFICULT THAN NUCLEAR 1448 00:46:02,321 --> 00:46:02,677 >> MORE DIFFICULT THAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS? 1449 00:46:02,688 --> 00:46:02,988 WEAPONS? >> YES. 1450 00:46:03,022 --> 00:46:06,958 >> YES. NUCLEAR WEAPONS, ACCESS TO THE 1451 00:46:06,959 --> 00:46:08,626 NUCLEAR WEAPONS, ACCESS TO THE MATERIALS, THE ABILITY TO SEE 1452 00:46:08,627 --> 00:46:09,827 MATERIALS, THE ABILITY TO SEE TASKS, THERE WERE THINGS THAT 1453 00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:11,253 TASKS, THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE UNIQUE ABOUT IT. 1454 00:46:11,264 --> 00:46:13,087 WERE UNIQUE ABOUT IT. EVEN THERE, WE COULD BE DOING 1455 00:46:13,098 --> 00:46:15,600 EVEN THERE, WE COULD BE DOING BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING CHINA 1456 00:46:15,634 --> 00:46:20,471 BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING CHINA INTO SOME OF THOSE FRAMEWORKS. 1457 00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:21,964 INTO SOME OF THOSE FRAMEWORKS. A LOT OF THAT STUFF EXPIRED. 1458 00:46:21,975 --> 00:46:23,465 A LOT OF THAT STUFF EXPIRED. SINCE WORLD WAR II, THE U.S. 1459 00:46:23,476 --> 00:46:25,734 SINCE WORLD WAR II, THE U.S. SHOULD BE VERY PROUD WHEN THERE 1460 00:46:25,745 --> 00:46:27,779 SHOULD BE VERY PROUD WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN GLOBAL CHALLENGES, WE 1461 00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:30,272 HAVE BEEN GLOBAL CHALLENGES, WE IN A WAY THAT WAS BENIGN, YOU 1462 00:46:30,283 --> 00:46:33,975 IN A WAY THAT WAS BENIGN, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAD FRIENDS AND 1463 00:46:33,986 --> 00:46:36,654 KNOW, WHERE WE HAD FRIENDS AND ALLIES COMING ALONG WITH US, YOU 1464 00:46:36,656 --> 00:46:38,657 ALLIES COMING ALONG WITH US, YOU KNOW, AVIATION SAFETY, OZONE 1465 00:46:38,658 --> 00:46:42,060 KNOW, AVIATION SAFETY, OZONE LAYER, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, A LOT OF 1466 00:46:42,061 --> 00:46:45,954 LAYER, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, A LOT OF THINGS WHERE WE WERE PLAYED THE 1467 00:46:45,965 --> 00:46:48,457 THINGS WHERE WE WERE PLAYED THE FAIR ACTOR, NOT AGGRANDIZING 1468 00:46:48,468 --> 00:46:50,401 FAIR ACTOR, NOT AGGRANDIZING WHATEVER OUR UNIQUE STRENGTHS 1469 00:46:50,403 --> 00:46:50,702 WHATEVER OUR UNIQUE STRENGTHS ARE. 1470 00:46:50,703 --> 00:46:53,104 ARE. AI WE HAVE TO GO INTO THIS, 1471 00:46:53,106 --> 00:46:55,207 AI WE HAVE TO GO INTO THIS, HUMANITY IS ALL IN THIS 1472 00:46:55,208 --> 00:46:55,574 HUMANITY IS ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. 1473 00:46:55,575 --> 00:46:56,331 TOGETHER. >> AND MY FAST TO BILL GATES FOR 1474 00:46:56,342 --> 00:46:58,777 >> AND MY FAST TO BILL GATES FOR THAT CONVERSATION. 1475 00:46:58,811 --> 00:47:01,069 THAT CONVERSATION. YOU WATCH FULPER VIEW, INCLUDING 1476 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,672 YOU WATCH FULPER VIEW, INCLUDING HOW HE USES AI AND HIS ANSWER ON 1477 00:47:03,683 --> 00:47:04,740 HOW HE USES AI AND HIS ANSWER ON HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY 1478 00:47:04,751 --> 00:47:07,609 HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN ON "MEET THE PRESS".COM. 1479 00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:09,054 EPSTEIN ON "MEET THE PRESS".COM. THAT IS ALL FOR TODAY. 1480 00:47:09,088 --> 00:47:10,645 THAT IS ALL FOR TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1481 00:47:10,656 --> 00:47:11,690 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK 1482 00:47:11,724 --> 00:47:12,414 WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK BECAUSE IF IT’S SUNDAY, IT’S 1483 00:47:12,425 --> 00:47:16,495 BECAUSE IF IT’S SUNDAY, IT’S "MEET THE PRESS." 1484 00:47:17,898 --> 00:47:25,037 ♪