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EMILIE IKEDA IS AT THE
CENTER OF IT ALL IN
PLYMOUTH,

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CENTER OF IT ALL IN
PLYMOUTH,
MASSACHUSETTS, FOR US

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PLYMOUTH,
MASSACHUSETTS, FOR US
TONIGHT.

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MASSACHUSETTS, FOR US
TONIGHT.
>> Reporter: AFTER

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TONIGHT.
>> Reporter: AFTER
DELIBERATIONS DRAGGED

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>> Reporter: AFTER
DELIBERATIONS DRAGGED
INTO A SEVENTH DAY,

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DELIBERATIONS DRAGGED
INTO A SEVENTH DAY,
TONIGHT, LINDSAY

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INTO A SEVENTH DAY,
TONIGHT, LINDSAY
CLANCY’S DRAMATIC

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TONIGHT, LINDSAY
CLANCY’S DRAMATIC
MURDER TRIAL

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CLANCY’S DRAMATIC
MURDER TRIAL
CULMINATING IN NO

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MURDER TRIAL
CULMINATING IN NO
VERDICT.

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CULMINATING IN NO
VERDICT.
>> IT IS WITH A HEAVY

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VERDICT.
>> IT IS WITH A HEAVY
HEART WE REPORT WE ARE

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>> IT IS WITH A HEAVY
HEART WE REPORT WE ARE
UNABLE TO COME TO A

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HEART WE REPORT WE ARE
UNABLE TO COME TO A
UNANIMOUS DECISION.

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UNABLE TO COME TO A
UNANIMOUS DECISION.
>> Reporter: CLANCY,

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UNANIMOUS DECISION.
>> Reporter: CLANCY,
SEEN SO I CAN, STARING

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>> Reporter: CLANCY,
SEEN SO I CAN, STARING
STRAIGHT AHEAD AS HER

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SEEN SO I CAN, STARING
STRAIGHT AHEAD AS HER
DEFENSE MADE A

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STRAIGHT AHEAD AS HER
DEFENSE MADE A
LAST-DITCH APPEAL OVER

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DEFENSE MADE A
LAST-DITCH APPEAL OVER
AN ISSUE WITH A JUROR.

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LAST-DITCH APPEAL OVER
AN ISSUE WITH A JUROR.
IN AN EXTRAORDINARY

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AN ISSUE WITH A JUROR.
IN AN EXTRAORDINARY
MOVE, THE DEFENSE

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IN AN EXTRAORDINARY
MOVE, THE DEFENSE
GIVING THE DEFENSE ONE

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MOVE, THE DEFENSE
GIVING THE DEFENSE ONE
HOUR TO FILE THEIR

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GIVING THE DEFENSE ONE
HOUR TO FILE THEIR
APPEAL.

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HOUR TO FILE THEIR
APPEAL.
THEN, MAKING THEIR

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APPEAL.
THEN, MAKING THEIR
CASE VIRTUALLY TO THE

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THEN, MAKING THEIR
CASE VIRTUALLY TO THE
TOP COURT IN

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CASE VIRTUALLY TO THE
TOP COURT IN
MASSACHUSETTS, AND

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TOP COURT IN
MASSACHUSETTS, AND
FORCING THE JURY TO

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MASSACHUSETTS, AND
FORCING THE JURY TO
WAIT IN THE WINGS.

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FORCING THE JURY TO
WAIT IN THE WINGS.
>> THE GOAL WAS TO

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WAIT IN THE WINGS.
>> THE GOAL WAS TO
AVOID A MISTRIAL.

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>> THE GOAL WAS TO
AVOID A MISTRIAL.
>> IT WAS DENIED.

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AVOID A MISTRIAL.
>> IT WAS DENIED.
>> Reporter: IT

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>> IT WAS DENIED.
>> Reporter: IT
FOLLOWED A

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>> Reporter: IT
FOLLOWED A
HEAD-TURNING NOTE THAT

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FOLLOWED A
HEAD-TURNING NOTE THAT
THERE WAS A SINGLE

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HEAD-TURNING NOTE THAT
THERE WAS A SINGLE
HOLDOUT BLOCKING A

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THERE WAS A SINGLE
HOLDOUT BLOCKING A
UNANIMOUS DECISION.

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HOLDOUT BLOCKING A
UNANIMOUS DECISION.
>> IT CLEARLY AND

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UNANIMOUS DECISION.
>> IT CLEARLY AND
UNEQUIVOCALLY

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>> IT CLEARLY AND
UNEQUIVOCALLY
INDICATES THAT THEY

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UNEQUIVOCALLY
INDICATES THAT THEY
ARE BASICALLY 11-1 AND

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INDICATES THAT THEY
ARE BASICALLY 11-1 AND
THIS PERSON WILL NOT

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ARE BASICALLY 11-1 AND
THIS PERSON WILL NOT
APPLY REASONABLE DOUBT

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THIS PERSON WILL NOT
APPLY REASONABLE DOUBT
TO THE EVIDENCE TO

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APPLY REASONABLE DOUBT
TO THE EVIDENCE TO
RETURN A NOT GUILTY

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TO THE EVIDENCE TO
RETURN A NOT GUILTY
VERDICT.

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RETURN A NOT GUILTY
VERDICT.
>> Reporter: THE

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VERDICT.
>> Reporter: THE
DEFENSE SAID THE

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>> Reporter: THE
DEFENSE SAID THE
HOLDOUT WAS A MAN AND

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DEFENSE SAID THE
HOLDOUT WAS A MAN AND
SPARRED WITH THE JUDGE

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HOLDOUT WAS A MAN AND
SPARRED WITH THE JUDGE
OVER WHY THE JUROR

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SPARRED WITH THE JUDGE
OVER WHY THE JUROR
SHOULD BE DISMISSED

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OVER WHY THE JUROR
SHOULD BE DISMISSED
AND HOW TO INSTRUCT

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SHOULD BE DISMISSED
AND HOW TO INSTRUCT
THE GROUP OF THREE MEN

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AND HOW TO INSTRUCT
THE GROUP OF THREE MEN
AND NINE WOMEN.

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THE GROUP OF THREE MEN
AND NINE WOMEN.
>> YOU DIDN’T DO IT

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AND NINE WOMEN.
>> YOU DIDN’T DO IT
FORCEFULLY, AND I’M

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>> YOU DIDN’T DO IT
FORCEFULLY, AND I’M
ASKING.

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FORCEFULLY, AND I’M
ASKING.
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT ME

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ASKING.
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT ME
TO DO?

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>> WHAT DO YOU WANT ME
TO DO?
>> I WANT YOU TO GET A

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TO DO?
>> I WANT YOU TO GET A
BRASS BAND?

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>> I WANT YOU TO GET A
BRASS BAND?
>> Reporter: OUTSIDE

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BRASS BAND?
>> Reporter: OUTSIDE
OF COURT, THE DISTRICT

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>> Reporter: OUTSIDE
OF COURT, THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY WOULD NOT SAY

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OF COURT, THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY WOULD NOT SAY
IF HE’S GOING TO TRY

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ATTORNEY WOULD NOT SAY
IF HE’S GOING TO TRY
THE WIDELY WATCHED

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IF HE’S GOING TO TRY
THE WIDELY WATCHED
CASE AGAIN BUT CALLED

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THE WIDELY WATCHED
CASE AGAIN BUT CALLED
THE MURDER CHARGES FOR

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CASE AGAIN BUT CALLED
THE MURDER CHARGES FOR
THE STRANGULATION OF

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THE MURDER CHARGES FOR
THE STRANGULATION OF
KARA, DAWSON, AND

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THE STRANGULATION OF
KARA, DAWSON, AND
CORINNE, WARRANTED.

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KARA, DAWSON, AND
CORINNE, WARRANTED.
>> THE FACTS ARE

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CORINNE, WARRANTED.
>> THE FACTS ARE
LINDSAY CLANCY KILLED

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>> THE FACTS ARE
LINDSAY CLANCY KILLED
HER THREE CHILDREN AND

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LINDSAY CLANCY KILLED
HER THREE CHILDREN AND
THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTED

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HER THREE CHILDREN AND
THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTED
TO US THAT SHE WAS IN

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THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTED
TO US THAT SHE WAS IN
CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS

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TO US THAT SHE WAS IN
CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS
WHEN SHE COMMITTED

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CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS
WHEN SHE COMMITTED
THOSE HOMICIDES.

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WHEN SHE COMMITTED
THOSE HOMICIDES.
>> Reporter: BUT THE

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THOSE HOMICIDES.
>> Reporter: BUT THE
DEFENSE ARGUED CLANCY

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>> Reporter: BUT THE
DEFENSE ARGUED CLANCY
IS NOT CRIMINALLY

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DEFENSE ARGUED CLANCY
IS NOT CRIMINALLY
RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE OF

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IS NOT CRIMINALLY
RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE OF
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS

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RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE OF
POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS
IN A CASE THAT THRUST

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POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS
IN A CASE THAT THRUST
MATERNAL MENTAL HEALTH

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IN A CASE THAT THRUST
MATERNAL MENTAL HEALTH
INTO THE NATIONAL

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MATERNAL MENTAL HEALTH
INTO THE NATIONAL
SPOTLIGHT.

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INTO THE NATIONAL
SPOTLIGHT.
WHEN ASKED HOW

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SPOTLIGHT.
WHEN ASKED HOW
CLANCY’S DOING?

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WHEN ASKED HOW
CLANCY’S DOING?
>> NOT GOOD.

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CLANCY’S DOING?
>> NOT GOOD.
SHE DESERVED THAT

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>> NOT GOOD.
SHE DESERVED THAT
ACQUITTAL THAT SHE

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SHE DESERVED THAT
ACQUITTAL THAT SHE
SHOULD HAVE HAD.

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ACQUITTAL THAT SHE
SHOULD HAVE HAD.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT,

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SHOULD HAVE HAD.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT,
THE ATTORNEY FOR HER

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>> Reporter: TONIGHT,
THE ATTORNEY FOR HER
EX-HUSBAND WRITING IN

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THE ATTORNEY FOR HER
EX-HUSBAND WRITING IN
A STATEMENT THAT HE IS

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EX-HUSBAND WRITING IN
A STATEMENT THAT HE IS
GRATEFUL TO THE COURT,

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A STATEMENT THAT HE IS
GRATEFUL TO THE COURT,
ADDING, THE PROSPECT

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GRATEFUL TO THE COURT,
ADDING, THE PROSPECT
OF RELIVING THIS

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ADDING, THE PROSPECT
OF RELIVING THIS
TRAGEDY THROUGH

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OF RELIVING THIS
TRAGEDY THROUGH
ANOTHER TRIAL IS

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TRAGEDY THROUGH
ANOTHER TRIAL IS
EXTRAORDINARILY

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ANOTHER TRIAL IS
EXTRAORDINARILY
PAINFUL.

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EXTRAORDINARILY
PAINFUL.
>> AND EMELIE JOINS US

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PAINFUL.
>> AND EMELIE JOINS US
NOW FROM THE COURT.

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>> AND EMELIE JOINS US
NOW FROM THE COURT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO

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NOW FROM THE COURT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO
LINDSAY CLANCY NOW

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WHAT HAPPENS TO
LINDSAY CLANCY NOW
UNTIL THE D.A. DECIDES

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LINDSAY CLANCY NOW
UNTIL THE D.A. DECIDES
WHAT TO DO NEXT?

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UNTIL THE D.A. DECIDES
WHAT TO DO NEXT?
>> Reporter: SO, KATE,

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WHAT TO DO NEXT?
>> Reporter: SO, KATE,
SHE WILL CONTINUE TO

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>> Reporter: SO, KATE,
SHE WILL CONTINUE TO
BE HELD AT THE SAME

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SHE WILL CONTINUE TO
BE HELD AT THE SAME
PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL

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BE HELD AT THE SAME
PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL
YOU CAN SEE HER THERE

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PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL
YOU CAN SEE HER THERE
ARRIVING A SHORT TIME

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YOU CAN SEE HER THERE
ARRIVING A SHORT TIME
AGO.

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ARRIVING A SHORT TIME
AGO.
THE JUDGE IS EXPECTED

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AGO.
THE JUDGE IS EXPECTED
TO REVISIT THIS CASE
