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>> THE FAMILY OF FORMER VICE

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>> THE FAMILY OF FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY RELEASED

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PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY RELEASED
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT.

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THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT.
RICHARD B CHENEY, THE 46TH VICE

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RICHARD B CHENEY, THE 46TH VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
DIED LAST NIGHT, NOVEMBER 3RD,

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DIED LAST NIGHT, NOVEMBER 3RD,
2025. HE WAS 84 YEARS OLD. HIS

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2025. HE WAS 84 YEARS OLD. HIS
BELOVED WIFE OF 61 YEARS, LYNN.

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BELOVED WIFE OF 61 YEARS, LYNN.
HIS DAUGHTERS LIZ AND MARY, AND

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HIS DAUGHTERS LIZ AND MARY, AND
OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WERE WITH

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OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WERE WITH
HIM AS HE PASSED. THE FORMER

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HIM AS HE PASSED. THE FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT DIED DUE TO

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VICE PRESIDENT DIED DUE TO
COMPLICATIONS OF PNEUMONIA AND

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COMPLICATIONS OF PNEUMONIA AND
CARDIAC AND VASCULAR DISEASE.

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CARDIAC AND VASCULAR DISEASE.
FOR DECADES, DICK CHENEY SERVED

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FOR DECADES, DICK CHENEY SERVED
OUR NATION, INCLUDING AS WHITE

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OUR NATION, INCLUDING AS WHITE
HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF. WYOMING’S

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HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF. WYOMING’S
CONGRESSMAN, SECRETARY OF

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CONGRESSMAN, SECRETARY OF
DEFENSE, AND VICE PRESIDENT OF

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DEFENSE, AND VICE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES, DICK CHENEY,

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THE UNITED STATES, DICK CHENEY,
WAS A GREAT AND GOOD MAN WHO

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WAS A GREAT AND GOOD MAN WHO
TAUGHT HIS CHILDREN AND

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TAUGHT HIS CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN TO LOVE OUR

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GRANDCHILDREN TO LOVE OUR
COUNTRY AND TO LIVE LIVES OF

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COUNTRY AND TO LIVE LIVES OF
COURAGE, HONOR, LOVE, KINDNESS,

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COURAGE, HONOR, LOVE, KINDNESS,
AND FLY FISHING. WE ARE

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AND FLY FISHING. WE ARE
GRATEFUL BEYOND MEASURE FOR ALL

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GRATEFUL BEYOND MEASURE FOR ALL
DICK CHENEY DID FOR OUR COUNTRY,

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DICK CHENEY DID FOR OUR COUNTRY,
AND WE ARE BLESSED BEYOND

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AND WE ARE BLESSED BEYOND
MEASURE TO HAVE LOVED AND BEEN

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MEASURE TO HAVE LOVED AND BEEN
LOVED BY THIS NOBLE GIANT OF A

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LOVED BY THIS NOBLE GIANT OF A
MAN. DICK CHENEY HAS PASSED

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MAN. DICK CHENEY HAS PASSED
AWAY.

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AWAY.
>> HE YOU KNOW, HE LIVED THIS

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>> HE YOU KNOW, HE LIVED THIS
LIFE. IT REALLY IN THREE ACTS,

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LIFE. IT REALLY IN THREE ACTS,
THIS PUBLIC LIFE. THE FIRST WAS

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THIS PUBLIC LIFE. THE FIRST WAS
WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS

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WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
OFF CAMERA. WILLY HE THE FIRST

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OFF CAMERA. WILLY HE THE FIRST
THE FIRST ACT WAS AS ACTUALLY

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THE FIRST ACT WAS AS ACTUALLY
SORT OF SEEN AS A MODERATE,

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SORT OF SEEN AS A MODERATE,
HIGHLY RESPECTED VOICE IN

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HIGHLY RESPECTED VOICE IN
CONGRESS AS A MINORITY WHIP.

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CONGRESS AS A MINORITY WHIP.
THERE’S A POINT IN DAVID

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THERE’S A POINT IN DAVID
STOCKMAN’S BOOK WHERE THEY WERE

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STOCKMAN’S BOOK WHERE THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT THE REAGAN

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TALKING ABOUT THE REAGAN
REVOLUTION AND THE CUTS THEY

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REVOLUTION AND THE CUTS THEY
WERE MAKING, AND THEY KEPT

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WERE MAKING, AND THEY KEPT
PUSHING FORWARD. AND THEN AT

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PUSHING FORWARD. AND THEN AT
ONE POINT, HE SAID, DICK CHENEY

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ONE POINT, HE SAID, DICK CHENEY
JUST QUIETLY SAID IN THE ROOM,

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JUST QUIETLY SAID IN THE ROOM,
THAT’S ENOUGH. CAN’T GO ANY

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THAT’S ENOUGH. CAN’T GO ANY
FURTHER. AND DAVID STOCKMAN

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FURTHER. AND DAVID STOCKMAN
SAID, WITH A MAN THIS RESPECTED

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SAID, WITH A MAN THIS RESPECTED
A VOICE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS

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A VOICE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS
LARGE IN CONGRESS. WE KNEW WE

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LARGE IN CONGRESS. WE KNEW WE
HAD PUSHED THE OUTER BOUNDARIES.

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HAD PUSHED THE OUTER BOUNDARIES.
THEN, OF COURSE, POST 911, HE

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THEN, OF COURSE, POST 911, HE
WAS SEEN AS DARTH VADER, CALLED

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WAS SEEN AS DARTH VADER, CALLED
DARTH VADER BY MANY PEOPLE

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DARTH VADER BY MANY PEOPLE
BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY HE

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BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY HE
SUPPORTED WHAT I THINK A LOT OF

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SUPPORTED WHAT I THINK A LOT OF
AMERICANS SUPPORTED. BUT HE

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AMERICANS SUPPORTED. BUT HE
WHAT WAS CALLED THE 1% SOLUTION.

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WHAT WAS CALLED THE 1% SOLUTION.
AND HE WAS DETERMINED. DICK

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AND HE WAS DETERMINED. DICK
CHENEY WAS DETERMINED FROM THAT

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CHENEY WAS DETERMINED FROM THAT
MOMENT ON, AFTER NINE OVER 11,

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MOMENT ON, AFTER NINE OVER 11,
THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANOTHER

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THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANOTHER
NINE OVER 11 AGAIN. AND HE WAS

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NINE OVER 11 AGAIN. AND HE WAS
GOING TO DO WHATEVER HE COULD

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GOING TO DO WHATEVER HE COULD
TO STOP IT. AND WE’LL WE’LL

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TO STOP IT. AND WE’LL WE’LL
TALK TO JIM VANDEHEI ABOUT THIS

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TALK TO JIM VANDEHEI ABOUT THIS
IN A MINUTE. BUT HE ALSO IS

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IN A MINUTE. BUT HE ALSO IS
SEEING REPORTS DAY IN AND DAY

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SEEING REPORTS DAY IN AND DAY
OUT THAT WOULD HAVE SCARED THE

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OUT THAT WOULD HAVE SCARED THE
ABSOLUTE HELL OUT OF ANY

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ABSOLUTE HELL OUT OF ANY
AMERICAN THAT HAD ACCESS TO ALL

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AMERICAN THAT HAD ACCESS TO ALL
THE THREATS. WE’RE HERE. AND

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THE THREATS. WE’RE HERE. AND
THEN FINALLY, THE THIRD ACT. OF

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THEN FINALLY, THE THIRD ACT. OF
COURSE, ONE OF THESE

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COURSE, ONE OF THESE
REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, THAT

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REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, THAT
WE’RE SEEING IS A DEFENDER OF

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WE’RE SEEING IS A DEFENDER OF
DEMOCRACY WHEN SO MANY OTHERS

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DEMOCRACY WHEN SO MANY OTHERS
LOST THEIR WAY, DICK CHENEY

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LOST THEIR WAY, DICK CHENEY
KEPT HIS BEARINGS AFTER JANUARY

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KEPT HIS BEARINGS AFTER JANUARY
THE 6TH, ALWAYS KEPT HIS

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THE 6TH, ALWAYS KEPT HIS
BEARINGS WHEN IT WHEN IT CAME

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BEARINGS WHEN IT WHEN IT CAME
TO DEMOCRATIC NORMS. AND HE WAS

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TO DEMOCRATIC NORMS. AND HE WAS
HE WAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE. I

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HE WAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE. I
THINK MOST CERTAINLY

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THINK MOST CERTAINLY
REPUBLICANS FROM MY ERA WOULD

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REPUBLICANS FROM MY ERA WOULD
BELIEVE AND AND I THINK WE’RE

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BELIEVE AND AND I THINK WE’RE
ALL WE ALL SHOULD BE GRATEFUL

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ALL WE ALL SHOULD BE GRATEFUL
TO HIM FOR THAT.

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TO HIM FOR THAT.
>> ONE OF HIS LAST PUBLIC ACTS

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>> ONE OF HIS LAST PUBLIC ACTS
WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WHEN HE

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WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WHEN HE
PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING, I’M

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PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING, I’M
GOING TO BE VOTING FOR KAMALA

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GOING TO BE VOTING FOR KAMALA
HARRIS IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL

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HARRIS IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION, DICK CHENEY, DARTH

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ELECTION, DICK CHENEY, DARTH
VADER, AS YOU SAID, THE FACE OF

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VADER, AS YOU SAID, THE FACE OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN MANY

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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN MANY
WAYS IN THE BUSH YEARS, SAID

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WAYS IN THE BUSH YEARS, SAID
DONALD TRUMP CAN NEVER BE

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DONALD TRUMP CAN NEVER BE
TRUSTED WITH POWER AGAIN.

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TRUSTED WITH POWER AGAIN.
APPEARING WITH HIS DAUGHTER,

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APPEARING WITH HIS DAUGHTER,
LIZ CHENEY, OF COURSE, WHO WAS

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LIZ CHENEY, OF COURSE, WHO WAS
ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN

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ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN
VOICES AGAINST THE TRUMP

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VOICES AGAINST THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. HE ACTUALLY, IF

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ADMINISTRATION. HE ACTUALLY, IF
YOU GO BACK EVEN FURTHER, WAS

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YOU GO BACK EVEN FURTHER, WAS
THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO GERALD

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THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO GERALD
FORD, THEN RAN FOR CONGRESS,

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FORD, THEN RAN FOR CONGRESS,
WHERE HE SERVED FOR TEN YEARS,

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WHERE HE SERVED FOR TEN YEARS,
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE UNDER

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SECRETARY OF DEFENSE UNDER
GEORGE H.W. BUSH DURING THE

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GEORGE H.W. BUSH DURING THE
GULF WAR, THEN BECAME THE CEO

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GULF WAR, THEN BECAME THE CEO
OF HALLIBURTON. AND THEN, OF

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OF HALLIBURTON. AND THEN, OF
COURSE, THE YEARS THAT MANY

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COURSE, THE YEARS THAT MANY
PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER POST 9/11,

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PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER POST 9/11,
JIM, HE WAS A SUPPORTER OF THE

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JIM, HE WAS A SUPPORTER OF THE
INVASION OF IRAQ, WHICH TURNED

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INVASION OF IRAQ, WHICH TURNED
OUT TO BE ON FAULTY

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OUT TO BE ON FAULTY
INTELLIGENCE, ALSO SUPPORTED

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INTELLIGENCE, ALSO SUPPORTED
THE ENHANCED INTERROGATION

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THE ENHANCED INTERROGATION
TECHNIQUES, TORTURE OF ENEMY

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TECHNIQUES, TORTURE OF ENEMY
COMBATANTS AND ALL OF THAT. SO

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COMBATANTS AND ALL OF THAT. SO
THAT IS MOST CERTAINLY A BIG

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THAT IS MOST CERTAINLY A BIG
PART OF HIS LEGACY. BUT THERE

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PART OF HIS LEGACY. BUT THERE
WAS A LOT, LOT MORE TO THE MAN.

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WAS A LOT, LOT MORE TO THE MAN.
>> I MEAN, WE’VE ALL BEEN DOING

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>> I MEAN, WE’VE ALL BEEN DOING
THIS A LONG TIME. I’VE BEEN

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THIS A LONG TIME. I’VE BEEN
DOING IT 30 YEARS. HE’S BY FAR

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DOING IT 30 YEARS. HE’S BY FAR
AND AWAY THE SMARTEST THINKER

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AND AWAY THE SMARTEST THINKER
ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF

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ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF
GOVERNMENT THAT I’VE EVER MET.

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GOVERNMENT THAT I’VE EVER MET.
AND IT’S NOT CLOSE. I WAS LUCKY

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AND IT’S NOT CLOSE. I WAS LUCKY
THAT I INTERVIEWED HIM SEVERAL

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THAT I INTERVIEWED HIM SEVERAL
TIMES. I WENT WITH HIM TO

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TIMES. I WENT WITH HIM TO
AUSCHWITZ WHEN HE WHEN HE WENT

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AUSCHWITZ WHEN HE WHEN HE WENT
THERE, AND THEN AFTER THE

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THERE, AND THEN AFTER THE
PRESIDENCY, WE WOULD GO OUT AND

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PRESIDENCY, WE WOULD GO OUT AND
SEE HIM OCCASIONALLY AT HIS

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SEE HIM OCCASIONALLY AT HIS
HOUSE BECAUSE HE JUST HE KNEW

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HOUSE BECAUSE HE JUST HE KNEW
EVERYTHING. HE KNEW EVERY LEVER

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EVERYTHING. HE KNEW EVERY LEVER
OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE YOU JUST

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OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE YOU JUST
WALKED THROUGH HIS RESUME. HE

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WALKED THROUGH HIS RESUME. HE
UNDERSTOOD HOW CONGRESS WORKED.

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UNDERSTOOD HOW CONGRESS WORKED.
HE UNDERSTOOD HOW THE

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HE UNDERSTOOD HOW THE
BUREAUCRACY WORKED. HE

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BUREAUCRACY WORKED. HE
UNDERSTOOD HE HAD ALL THESE

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UNDERSTOOD HE HAD ALL THESE
RELATIONSHIPS, EVEN

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RELATIONSHIPS, EVEN
POST-PRESIDENCY, WITH ALL THESE

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POST-PRESIDENCY, WITH ALL THESE
WORLD LEADERS. HE JUST

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WORLD LEADERS. HE JUST
UNDERSTOOD POWER. AND THERE’S

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UNDERSTOOD POWER. AND THERE’S
TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HATED HIM. A

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TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HATED HIM. A
LOT OF PEOPLE LOVED HIM, BUT HE

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LOT OF PEOPLE LOVED HIM, BUT HE
WAS ALSO LIKE HE WAS HIS OWN

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WAS ALSO LIKE HE WAS HIS OWN
MAN, RIGHT? LIKE HE WAS WHEN HE

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MAN, RIGHT? LIKE HE WAS WHEN HE
CAME OUT POST 911. PEOPLE DON’T

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CAME OUT POST 911. PEOPLE DON’T
REALIZE THE REPORTS THAT HE AND

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REALIZE THE REPORTS THAT HE AND
PRESIDENT BUSH WERE GETTING IN

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PRESIDENT BUSH WERE GETTING IN
THOSE DAYS AFTER NINE OVER 11,

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THOSE DAYS AFTER NINE OVER 11,
AND IT REALLY TURNED HIM DARK.

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AND IT REALLY TURNED HIM DARK.
IT MADE HIM FEEL LIKE WE CAN

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IT MADE HIM FEEL LIKE WE CAN
NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN. HE

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NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN. HE
WAS WILLING TO DO THINGS OTHER

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WAS WILLING TO DO THINGS OTHER
PEOPLE WEREN’T WILLING TO DO.

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PEOPLE WEREN’T WILLING TO DO.
HE GOT A HELL OF A LOT OF

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HE GOT A HELL OF A LOT OF
CRITICISM FOR THAT. AND WHAT HE

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CRITICISM FOR THAT. AND WHAT HE
WOULD SAY IS LIKE, THAT WAS

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WOULD SAY IS LIKE, THAT WAS
LIKE A VERY PRINCIPLED VIEW

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LIKE A VERY PRINCIPLED VIEW
BASED ON THE THREAT MATRIX THAT

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BASED ON THE THREAT MATRIX THAT
HE WAS SEEING. AND THEN RIGHT

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HE WAS SEEING. AND THEN RIGHT
BEFORE HIS DEATH, THE IDEA THAT

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BEFORE HIS DEATH, THE IDEA THAT
DICK CHENEY WOULD BE LEADING

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DICK CHENEY WOULD BE LEADING
THE REPUBLICAN CHARGE AGAINST

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THE REPUBLICAN CHARGE AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT, AN ELECTED

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THE PRESIDENT, AN ELECTED
PRESIDENT, AND THE LEADING

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PRESIDENT, AND THE LEADING
NOMINEE WOULD HAVE BEEN

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NOMINEE WOULD HAVE BEEN
UNTHINKABLE. HE WAS A PARTY GUY,

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UNTHINKABLE. HE WAS A PARTY GUY,
BUT HE WAS A PRINCIPLE GUY, AND

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BUT HE WAS A PRINCIPLE GUY, AND
HE UNDERSTOOD THE CONSTITUTION.

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HE UNDERSTOOD THE CONSTITUTION.
HE UNDERSTOOD HISTORY, AND HE

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HE UNDERSTOOD HISTORY, AND HE
UNDERSTOOD IN HIS MIND HE FELT

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UNDERSTOOD IN HIS MIND HE FELT
LIKE THERE WAS A LEGITIMATE

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LIKE THERE WAS A LEGITIMATE
THREAT TO IT.

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THREAT TO IT.
>> YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, HE

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>> YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, HE
WOULD SAY, JONATHAN LEMIRE,

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WOULD SAY, JONATHAN LEMIRE,
ABOUT THE POST NINE OVER 11

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ABOUT THE POST NINE OVER 11
RECORD. HE WOULD SAY, HOW MANY

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RECORD. HE WOULD SAY, HOW MANY
TIMES DID WE GET AFTER NINE

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TIMES DID WE GET AFTER NINE
OVER 11? THAT WAS MY GOAL. HE

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OVER 11? THAT WAS MY GOAL. HE
WOULD SAY, AND YOU CAN LOOK AND

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WOULD SAY, AND YOU CAN LOOK AND
SEE THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS

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SEE THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS
MORE, I THINK HAVE MORE THAN

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MORE, I THINK HAVE MORE THAN
HALF OF AMERICA BELIEVED MORE

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HALF OF AMERICA BELIEVED MORE
ATTACKS WERE COMING, AND THEY

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ATTACKS WERE COMING, AND THEY
WOULD COME IN SUCCESSIVE WAVES

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WOULD COME IN SUCCESSIVE WAVES
AGAINST US. THERE WAS THERE WAS

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AGAINST US. THERE WAS THERE WAS
SUCH SHOCK. SO AGAIN, HE WOULD

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SUCH SHOCK. SO AGAIN, HE WOULD
SAY, LOOK AT THE RECORD. LOOK

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SAY, LOOK AT THE RECORD. LOOK
WHAT HAPPENED. WE DIDN’T WE

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WHAT HAPPENED. WE DIDN’T WE
DIDN’T GET ATTACKED AGAIN.

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DIDN’T GET ATTACKED AGAIN.
THERE WAS, OF COURSE, THE IRAQ

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THERE WAS, OF COURSE, THE IRAQ
WAR. YEAH. WHICH, WHICH CAME

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WAR. YEAH. WHICH, WHICH CAME
WHICH I ACTUALLY BELIEVE WILL

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WHICH I ACTUALLY BELIEVE WILL
PROBABLY BE WHEN THE OBITUARIES

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PROBABLY BE WHEN THE OBITUARIES
ARE WRITTEN, THERE WILL BE TALK

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ARE WRITTEN, THERE WILL BE TALK
OF, AGAIN, ALL THREE CHAPTERS

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OF, AGAIN, ALL THREE CHAPTERS
OF HIS LIFE, THE FIRST AND AND

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OF HIS LIFE, THE FIRST AND AND
AND THE THIRD IS PROTECTIVE OF

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AND THE THIRD IS PROTECTIVE OF
DEMOCRACY. BUT IN THAT SECOND,

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DEMOCRACY. BUT IN THAT SECOND,
I THINK AS MUCH AS THE WAR ON

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I THINK AS MUCH AS THE WAR ON
TERROR, WHICH MANY PEOPLE WOULD

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TERROR, WHICH MANY PEOPLE WOULD
CONSIDER TO BE A SUCCESS, THE

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CONSIDER TO BE A SUCCESS, THE
THE, THE BLIND SPOT WAS GOING

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THE, THE BLIND SPOT WAS GOING
INTO IRAQ.

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INTO IRAQ.
>> YEAH. AND THOSE TWO THINGS

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>> YEAH. AND THOSE TWO THINGS
SORT OF BECAME LINKED IN THE

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SORT OF BECAME LINKED IN THE
PUBLIC NARRATIVE, THE WAR ON

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PUBLIC NARRATIVE, THE WAR ON
TERROR AND IRAQ, BECAUSE THE

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TERROR AND IRAQ, BECAUSE THE
ADMINISTRATION DID THAT. SO IT

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ADMINISTRATION DID THAT. SO IT
IS HARD TO PROVE IN SOME WAYS,

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IS HARD TO PROVE IN SOME WAYS,
LOOK, WE STOPPED THESE TERROR

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LOOK, WE STOPPED THESE TERROR
ATTACKS BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT

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ATTACKS BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT
WAS CLASSIFIED. YOU CAN’T

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WAS CLASSIFIED. YOU CAN’T
REVEAL IT. IT’S HARD TO COME UP

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REVEAL IT. IT’S HARD TO COME UP
WITH THAT SUCCESS STORY. IT’S

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WITH THAT SUCCESS STORY. IT’S
MUCH EASIER TO SEE THE VISIBLE

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MUCH EASIER TO SEE THE VISIBLE
FAILURE AND THE JUSTIFICATION

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FAILURE AND THE JUSTIFICATION
OF THE IRAQ WAR. AND WHAT IT

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OF THE IRAQ WAR. AND WHAT IT
LED TO WAS CERTAINLY A FAILURE

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LED TO WAS CERTAINLY A FAILURE
FOR FOR VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY.

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FOR FOR VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY.
WE SHOULD JUST NOTE FOR THE

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WE SHOULD JUST NOTE FOR THE
VIEWERS, THAT WAS THE TEXT I

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VIEWERS, THAT WAS THE TEXT I
HAD RECEIVED, IN CASE YOU WERE

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HAD RECEIVED, IN CASE YOU WERE
WONDERING IF THERE WAS

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WONDERING IF THERE WAS
SOMETHING ELSE COMING. THIS WE

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SOMETHING ELSE COMING. THIS WE
JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS. NO,

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JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS. NO,
BECAUSE I’VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE

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BECAUSE I’VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE
LIKE WHAT’S GOING ON. SO I WAS

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LIKE WHAT’S GOING ON. SO I WAS
LIKE, THIS IS WHAT IT IS. RUN

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LIKE, THIS IS WHAT IT IS. RUN
IT THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS

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IT THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS
BEFORE WE WENT WITH IT ON AIR.

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BEFORE WE WENT WITH IT ON AIR.
BUT WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE TO YOUR

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BUT WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE TO YOUR
POINT A MOMENT AGO, IT’S

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POINT A MOMENT AGO, IT’S
BECAUSE HE WAS SEEN AS THE

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BECAUSE HE WAS SEEN AS THE
POWER BEHIND THE THRONE. THE

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POWER BEHIND THE THRONE. THE
ARCHITECT OF THE BUSH

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ARCHITECT OF THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION, DARTH VADER. SO,

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ADMINISTRATION, DARTH VADER. SO,
AND I WOULD ARGUE, THE MOST

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AND I WOULD ARGUE, THE MOST
DISLIKED POLITICIAN BY

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DISLIKED POLITICIAN BY
DEMOCRATS WE HAVE HAD IN

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DEMOCRATS WE HAVE HAD IN
DECADES UNTIL DONALD TRUMP.

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DECADES UNTIL DONALD TRUMP.
THAT’S WHY HIS ENDORSEMENT TO

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THAT’S WHY HIS ENDORSEMENT TO
COME OUT AGAINST, NOT JUST SAY,

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COME OUT AGAINST, NOT JUST SAY,
I’M GOING TO SIT THIS RACE OUT,

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I’M GOING TO SIT THIS RACE OUT,
BUT I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR

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BUT I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR
TRUMP, BUT TO COME OUT THE

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TRUMP, BUT TO COME OUT THE
OTHER WAY AND BACK. A DEMOCRAT

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OTHER WAY AND BACK. A DEMOCRAT
AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, IT

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AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, IT
WAS, TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, VERY

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WAS, TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, VERY
MEANINGFUL.

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MEANINGFUL.
>> BUT WHAT.

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>> BUT WHAT.
>> IS THE THROUGH LINE ON ALL

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>> IS THE THROUGH LINE ON ALL
OF THOSE THINGS? DICK CHENEY

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OF THOSE THINGS? DICK CHENEY
DID WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST

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DID WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST
FOR AMERICA, POLITICS BE DAMNED,

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FOR AMERICA, POLITICS BE DAMNED,
WHETHER HE DID IT AS AS A

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WHETHER HE DID IT AS AS A
HIGHLY RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE

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HIGHLY RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE
HOUSE MINORITY LEADERSHIP,

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HOUSE MINORITY LEADERSHIP,
WHETHER HE DID IT AS SECRETARY

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WHETHER HE DID IT AS SECRETARY
OF DEFENSE, ALSO SOMETHING THAT

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OF DEFENSE, ALSO SOMETHING THAT
WILL BE SEEN AS A VERY POSITIVE

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WILL BE SEEN AS A VERY POSITIVE
CHAPTER IN HIS LIFE THAT A LOT

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CHAPTER IN HIS LIFE THAT A LOT
OF PEOPLE FORGET DURING THE

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OF PEOPLE FORGET DURING THE
FIRST IRAQ WAR.

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FIRST IRAQ WAR.
>> GULF WAR.

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>> GULF WAR.
>> FIRST GULF WAR, WHETHER

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>> FIRST GULF WAR, WHETHER
HE’LL BE REMEMBERED AS VICE

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HE’LL BE REMEMBERED AS VICE
PRESIDENT FOR THE UPS AND DOWNS

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PRESIDENT FOR THE UPS AND DOWNS
OF THAT, OR WHETHER HE’LL BE

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OF THAT, OR WHETHER HE’LL BE
REMEMBERED AS BY, BY BY MANY OF

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REMEMBERED AS BY, BY BY MANY OF
THE PEOPLE WHO LOATHED HIM

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THE PEOPLE WHO LOATHED HIM
BEFORE, AS, AS AS A DEFENDER OF

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BEFORE, AS, AS AS A DEFENDER OF
DEMOCRACY. AND THIS HAPPENS, I,

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DEMOCRACY. AND THIS HAPPENS, I,
YOU KNOW, MIKA’S FATHER WAS

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YOU KNOW, MIKA’S FATHER WAS
LOATHED BY PROGRESSIVES IN THE

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LOATHED BY PROGRESSIVES IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. HE SAID HE

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DEMOCRATIC PARTY. HE SAID HE
WAS BOOED AT THE DEMOCRATIC

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WAS BOOED AT THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL CONVENTION BECAUSE HE

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NATIONAL CONVENTION BECAUSE HE
TOOK SUCH A HARD LINE AGAINST

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TOOK SUCH A HARD LINE AGAINST
THE SOVIET UNION. AND THEN

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THE SOVIET UNION. AND THEN
AFTER THE IRAQ WAR, SUDDENLY

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AFTER THE IRAQ WAR, SUDDENLY
EVERY LIBERAL LOVED HIM. YOU

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EVERY LIBERAL LOVED HIM. YOU
KNOW, THE TWO THINGS I WILL SAY,

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KNOW, THE TWO THINGS I WILL SAY,
THE TWO THINGS I DON’T THINK

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THE TWO THINGS I DON’T THINK
YOUR DAD WOULD MIND ME SAYING

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YOUR DAD WOULD MIND ME SAYING
THIS. THE TWO THINGS THESE TWO

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THIS. THE TWO THINGS THESE TWO
MEN SHARED IN COMMON IS THEY

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MEN SHARED IN COMMON IS THEY
REALLY DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT

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REALLY DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT
THE NEW YORK TIMES OR WALL

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THE NEW YORK TIMES OR WALL
STREET JOURNAL EDITORIAL PAGE

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STREET JOURNAL EDITORIAL PAGE
SAID ABOUT THEM. THEY WERE

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SAID ABOUT THEM. THEY WERE
GOING TO DO WHAT THEY THOUGHT

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GOING TO DO WHAT THEY THOUGHT
THEIR DUTY WAS.

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THEIR DUTY WAS.
>> TO LIVE NEAR EACH OTHER IN

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>> TO LIVE NEAR EACH OTHER IN
MCLEAN.

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MCLEAN.
>> VIRGINIA, AND ALSO TWO TWO

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>> VIRGINIA, AND ALSO TWO TWO
GUYS WITH ENORMOUSLY BIG BRAINS.

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GUYS WITH ENORMOUSLY BIG BRAINS.
I ACTUALLY GO BACK TO WHAT JIM

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I ACTUALLY GO BACK TO WHAT JIM
SAID A SECOND AGO, WHICH IS, IF

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SAID A SECOND AGO, WHICH IS, IF
YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT THE ARC

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YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT THE ARC
OF THE CAREER HERE, THIS TO ME

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OF THE CAREER HERE, THIS TO ME
IS THE CORE OF IT. WHEN HE GOES

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IS THE CORE OF IT. WHEN HE GOES
TO HIS FIRST JOB IN POLITICS,

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TO HIS FIRST JOB IN POLITICS,
IS WORKING FOR DON RUMSFELD IN

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IS WORKING FOR DON RUMSFELD IN
1969. OKAY, HE’S 28 YEARS OLD.

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1969. OKAY, HE’S 28 YEARS OLD.
>> THAT’S A TOUGH JOB.

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>> THAT’S A TOUGH JOB.
>> FOR HIM. HE’S 20.

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>> FOR HIM. HE’S 20.
>> HE’S MY BROTHER.

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>> HE’S MY BROTHER.
>> HE GOES INTO THE WHITE HOUSE

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>> HE GOES INTO THE WHITE HOUSE
AS AN INTERN AT 28. AND SIX

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AS AN INTERN AT 28. AND SIX
YEARS LATER, HAVING NEVER LEFT

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YEARS LATER, HAVING NEVER LEFT
THE WHITE HOUSE, HE’S GERALD

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THE WHITE HOUSE, HE’S GERALD
FORD’S CHIEF OF STAFF, WHITE

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FORD’S CHIEF OF STAFF, WHITE
HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF, ARGUABLY

00:10:00.206 --> 00:10:01.430
HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF, ARGUABLY
THE MOST POWERFUL JOB IN

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THE MOST POWERFUL JOB IN
AMERICA BESIDES PRESIDENT.

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AMERICA BESIDES PRESIDENT.
RIGHT AT THE AGE OF 34. OKAY,

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RIGHT AT THE AGE OF 34. OKAY,
THAT IS A PRODIGY IN TERMS OF

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THAT IS A PRODIGY IN TERMS OF
THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW POWER

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THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW POWER
WORKS. HE BEFORE HE EVEN WENT

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WORKS. HE BEFORE HE EVEN WENT
TO CONGRESS, HE ALREADY HAD

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TO CONGRESS, HE ALREADY HAD
OPERATED AT THE VERY HIGHEST

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OPERATED AT THE VERY HIGHEST
LEVELS OF FEDERAL POWER. AND

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LEVELS OF FEDERAL POWER. AND
THAT STUDENT KIND OF

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THAT STUDENT KIND OF
APPRENTICESHIP, THE FACT THAT

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APPRENTICESHIP, THE FACT THAT
HE WAS A STUDENT OF POWER AND

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HE WAS A STUDENT OF POWER AND
THE DYNAMICS OF POWER AND HOW

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THE DYNAMICS OF POWER AND HOW
WASHINGTON WORKS ON BOTH SIDES,

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WASHINGTON WORKS ON BOTH SIDES,
FROM THE FROM CAPITOL HILL TO

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FROM THE FROM CAPITOL HILL TO
THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN OVER

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THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN OVER
TO THE IN THE AGENCIES, JUST

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TO THE IN THE AGENCIES, JUST
GAVE HIM A 360 VIEW OF OF HOW

00:10:30.837 --> 00:10:31.994
GAVE HIM A 360 VIEW OF OF HOW
WASHINGTON WORKED AND HOW

00:10:32.005 --> 00:10:33.371
WASHINGTON WORKED AND HOW
POLITICS, HOW POWER FLOWED IN

00:10:33.373 --> 00:10:35.474
POLITICS, HOW POWER FLOWED IN
THAT CITY AND HOW TO WORK THE

00:10:35.475 --> 00:10:36.108
THAT CITY AND HOW TO WORK THE
LEVERS BEHIND THE SCENES.

00:10:36.142 --> 00:10:37.366
LEVERS BEHIND THE SCENES.
THAT’S, I THINK, AS MUCH AS

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THAT’S, I THINK, AS MUCH AS
ANYTHING, THE DEFINITIVE THING

00:10:38.945 --> 00:10:40.045
ANYTHING, THE DEFINITIVE THING
ABOUT A BRILLIANT GUY WHO

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ABOUT A BRILLIANT GUY WHO
REALLY UNDERSTOOD POWER IN

00:10:41.114 --> 00:10:42.348
REALLY UNDERSTOOD POWER IN
WASHINGTON, LIKE ALMOST NO ONE

00:10:42.382 --> 00:10:43.339
WASHINGTON, LIKE ALMOST NO ONE
ELSE EVER HAS.

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ELSE EVER HAS.
>> JUST HAVING A SENSE OF A

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>> JUST HAVING A SENSE OF A
MOMENT LIKE THIS. WHAT IT’S