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THIS SUNDAY, OUTRAGE.

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THIS SUNDAY, OUTRAGE. 
IN THE WAKE OF THE

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IN THE WAKE OF THE 
ASSASSINATION OF CONSERVATIVE

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ASSASSINATION OF CONSERVATIVE 
ACTIVIST CHARLIE KERR, THE

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ACTIVIST CHARLIE KERR, THE 
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION VOWS TO

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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION VOWS TO 
CRACK DOWN ON THE SO-CALLED

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CRACK DOWN ON THE SO-CALLED 
RADICAL LEFT.

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RADICAL LEFT. 
>> THE RADICAL LEFT HAS DONE

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>> THE RADICAL LEFT HAS DONE 
TREMENDOUS DAMAGE TO THE

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TREMENDOUS DAMAGE TO THE 
COUNTRY.

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COUNTRY. 
>> WE WILL ABSOLUTELY TARGET

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>> WE WILL ABSOLUTELY TARGET 
YOU, GO AFTER YOU, IF YOU ARE

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YOU, GO AFTER YOU, IF YOU ARE 
TARGETING ANYONE WITH HATE

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TARGETING ANYONE WITH HATE 
SPEECH.

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SPEECH. 
>> THE ANSWER TO DEBATE AND

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>> THE ANSWER TO DEBATE AND 
SPEECH THAT YOU DON’T LIKE, IS

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SPEECH THAT YOU DON’T LIKE, IS 
NOT VIOLENCE OR TAKING

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NOT VIOLENCE OR TAKING 
SOMEONE’S LIFE, IT’S MORE

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SOMEONE’S LIFE, IT’S MORE 
SPEECH, IT’S MORE DEBATE, IT’S

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SPEECH, IT’S MORE DEBATE, IT’S 
MORE ENGAGEMENT.

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MORE ENGAGEMENT. 
>> I WILL TALK EXCLUSIVELY TO

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>> I WILL TALK EXCLUSIVELY TO 
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR JOSH

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DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR JOSH 
SHAPIRO OF PENNSYLVANIA AND

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SHAPIRO OF PENNSYLVANIA AND 
REPUBLICAN SENATOR RAND PAUL OF

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REPUBLICAN SENATOR RAND PAUL OF 
KENTUCKY PLUS OFF AIR.

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KENTUCKY PLUS OFF AIR. 
ABC PULLS JIMMY KIMMEL OFF THE

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ABC PULLS JIMMY KIMMEL OFF THE 
AIR AFTER FACING PRESSURE FROM

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AIR AFTER FACING PRESSURE FROM 
THE FCC CHAIRMAN.

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THE FCC CHAIRMAN. 
>> WE CAN DO THIS THE EASY WAY

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>> WE CAN DO THIS THE EASY WAY 
OR THE HARD WAY.

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OR THE HARD WAY. 
>> WHEN SOMEONE IS GIVEN 97% OF

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>> WHEN SOMEONE IS GIVEN 97% OF 
THE STORIES BAD ABOUT A PERSON,

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THE STORIES BAD ABOUT A PERSON, 
THAT IS NO LONGER FREE SPEECH,

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THAT IS NO LONGER FREE SPEECH, 
IT’S CHEATING.

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IT’S CHEATING. 
>> HOW FAR WILL THE

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>> HOW FAR WILL THE 
ADMINISTRATION GO TO TARGET

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ADMINISTRATION GO TO TARGET 
POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND SILENCE

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POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND SILENCE 
DISSENT?

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DISSENT? 
AND LET THEM, BEST-SELLING

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AND LET THEM, BEST-SELLING 
AUTHOR AND PODCAST HOST MEL

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AUTHOR AND PODCAST HOST MEL 
ROBBINS JOINED ME FOR A "MEET

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ROBBINS JOINED ME FOR A "MEET 
THE MOMENT" CONVERSATION.

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THE MOMENT" CONVERSATION. 
>> YOU DON’T CHANGE OTHER

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>> YOU DON’T CHANGE OTHER 
PEOPLE BY TRYING TO CHANGE

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PEOPLE BY TRYING TO CHANGE 
THEM.

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THEM. 
YOU CHANGE  BY CHANGING

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YOU CHANGE  BY CHANGING 
YOURSELF.

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YOURSELF. 
>> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND

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>> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND 
ANALYSIS ARE, NEW YORK TIMES

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ANALYSIS ARE, NEW YORK TIMES 
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT TYLER

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WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT TYLER 
PAGER.

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PAGER. 
ADRIAN ELROD, WITH THE HARRIS

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ADRIAN ELROD, WITH THE HARRIS 
CAMPAIGN, WELCOME TO SUNDAY, IT

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CAMPAIGN, WELCOME TO SUNDAY, IT 
IS MEET THE PRESS.

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IS MEET THE PRESS. 
>> FROM NBC NEWS AND

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>> FROM NBC NEWS AND 
WASHINGTON, THE LONGEST RUNNING

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WASHINGTON, THE LONGEST RUNNING 
SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY,

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SHOW IN TELEVISION HISTORY, 
THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH

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THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH 
KRISTEN WELKER.

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KRISTEN WELKER. 
>>  GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.

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>>  GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. 
AS WE COME ON THE AIR,

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AS WE COME ON THE AIR, 
THOUSANDS ARE GATHERED IN

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THOUSANDS ARE GATHERED IN 
ARIZONA TO PAY TRIBUTE TO

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ARIZONA TO PAY TRIBUTE TO 
CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST CHARLIE

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CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST CHARLIE 
KIRK.

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KIRK. 
JUST OVER A WEEK AFTER HE WAS

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JUST OVER A WEEK AFTER HE WAS 
ASSASSINATED, PRESIDENT TRUMP

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ASSASSINATED, PRESIDENT TRUMP 
IS AMONG THOSE SET TO SPEAK AT

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IS AMONG THOSE SET TO SPEAK AT 
THE MEMORIAL SERVICE.

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THE MEMORIAL SERVICE. 
IT COMES AS THE COUNTRY IS

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IT COMES AS THE COUNTRY IS 
GRAPPLING NOT ONLY WITH

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GRAPPLING NOT ONLY WITH 
POLITICAL VIOLENCE BUT ALSO

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POLITICAL VIOLENCE BUT ALSO 
THREATS TO FREE SPEECH.

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THREATS TO FREE SPEECH. 
ABC INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED LATE-

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ABC INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED LATE-
NIGHT COMEDIAN JIMMY KIMMEL FOR

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NIGHT COMEDIAN JIMMY KIMMEL FOR 
COMMENTS HE MADE IN THE WAKE OF

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COMMENTS HE MADE IN THE WAKE OF 
KIRK’S DEATH.

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KIRK’S DEATH. 
PRESIDENT TRUMP, WARNING THE

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PRESIDENT TRUMP, WARNING THE 
FCC COULD NOW TARGET

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FCC COULD NOW TARGET 
BROADCASTERS WHICH CRITIQUE

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BROADCASTERS WHICH CRITIQUE 
HIM.

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HIM. 
ON FRIDAY, I SAT DOWN WITH

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ON FRIDAY, I SAT DOWN WITH 
PENNSYLVANIA’S DEMOCRATIC

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PENNSYLVANIA’S DEMOCRATIC 
GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO WHO IS A

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GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO WHO IS A 
VICTIM OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE

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VICTIM OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE 
HIMSELF.

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HIMSELF. 
EARLIER THIS YEAR, AN ARSONIST

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EARLIER THIS YEAR, AN ARSONIST 
FIREBOMBED HIS MANSION IN

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FIREBOMBED HIS MANSION IN 
HARRISBURG WHILE HE AND HIS

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HARRISBURG WHILE HE AND HIS 
FAMILY WERE SLEEPING.

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FAMILY WERE SLEEPING. 
I ASKED THE GOVERNOR WHAT HE

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I ASKED THE GOVERNOR WHAT HE 
MAKES OF THIS MOMENT WE ARE

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MAKES OF THIS MOMENT WE ARE 
LIVING IN.

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LIVING IN. 
>> I THINK WE ARE AT AN

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>> I THINK WE ARE AT AN 
INFLECTION POINT AS A NATION.

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INFLECTION POINT AS A NATION. 
I THINK WE CAN GO IN A NUMBER

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I THINK WE CAN GO IN A NUMBER 
OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

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OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
I HOPE WE GO THE DIRECTION OF

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I HOPE WE GO THE DIRECTION OF 
HEALING, OF BRINGING PEOPLE

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HEALING, OF BRINGING PEOPLE 
TOGETHER, OF TRYING TO FIND OUR

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TOGETHER, OF TRYING TO FIND OUR 
COMMONALITIES NOT JUST FOCUSES

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COMMONALITIES NOT JUST FOCUSES 
-- FOCUSING ON OUR DIFFERENCES.

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-- FOCUSING ON OUR DIFFERENCES. 
YOU REFERENCE THE FIREBOMBING

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YOU REFERENCE THE FIREBOMBING 
AND ATTEMPTED MURDER ON MY LIFE

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AND ATTEMPTED MURDER ON MY LIFE 
AND OUR FAMILY, IN APRIL AT THE

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AND OUR FAMILY, IN APRIL AT THE 
GOVERNOR’S RESIDENCE IN

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GOVERNOR’S RESIDENCE IN 
HARRISBURG.

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HARRISBURG. 
WE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY AT

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WE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY AT 
THAT MOMENT AS A COMMONWEALTH

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THAT MOMENT AS A COMMONWEALTH 
SLIPPED INTO A DARK PLACE.

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SLIPPED INTO A DARK PLACE. 
INSTEAD WHAT I SAW WAS A WHOLE

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INSTEAD WHAT I SAW WAS A WHOLE 
LOT OF LIGHT.

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LOT OF LIGHT. 
A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ALL

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A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ALL 
DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, ALL

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DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, ALL 
DIFFERENT FAITHS, ALL DIFFERENT

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DIFFERENT FAITHS, ALL DIFFERENT 
PARTIES, COMING TOGETHER TO NOT

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PARTIES, COMING TOGETHER TO NOT 
JUST SUPPORT ME AND MY FAMILY

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JUST SUPPORT ME AND MY FAMILY 
BUT TO SUPPORT OUR

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BUT TO SUPPORT OUR 
COMMONWEALTH.

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COMMONWEALTH. 
IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE ENTIRE

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IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE ENTIRE 
COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.

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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA. 
I SAW THE BETTER ANGELS OF THE

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I SAW THE BETTER ANGELS OF THE 
PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA.

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PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA. 
I WANT TO SEE THAT NOW IN

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I WANT TO SEE THAT NOW IN 
AMERICA, JUST TOO MUCH

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AMERICA, JUST TOO MUCH 
POLITICAL VIOLENCE.

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POLITICAL VIOLENCE. 
WE’VE GOT TO FIND OUR BETTER

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WE’VE GOT TO FIND OUR BETTER 
ANGELS AND WE’VE GOT TO

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ANGELS AND WE’VE GOT TO 
UNIVERSALLY CONDEMN POLITICAL

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UNIVERSALLY CONDEMN POLITICAL 
VIOLENCE NO MATTER WHERE IT IS

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VIOLENCE NO MATTER WHERE IT IS 
WHETHER IT IS AGAINST CHARLIE

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WHETHER IT IS AGAINST CHARLIE 
KIRK OR SOMEONE ELSE.

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KIRK OR SOMEONE ELSE. 
IT IS NOT OKAY.

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IT IS NOT OKAY. 
WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO

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WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO 
CONDEMN IT.

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CONDEMN IT. 
WE’VE GOT TO FIND OUR BETTER

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WE’VE GOT TO FIND OUR BETTER 
ANGELS THE WAY WE DID IN

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ANGELS THE WAY WE DID IN 
PENNSYLVANIA.

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PENNSYLVANIA. 
>> I WONDER IF, WITH EACH NEW

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>> I WONDER IF, WITH EACH NEW 
ACT OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE, IF

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ACT OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE, IF 
YOU RELIVE THE HORROR THAT WAS

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YOU RELIVE THE HORROR THAT WAS 
BROUGHT UPON YOUR FAMILY?

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BROUGHT UPON YOUR FAMILY? 
>> I’M NOT LAUGHING, I’M JUST

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>> I’M NOT LAUGHING, I’M JUST 
PROCESSING WHAT YOU ASKED. I

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PROCESSING WHAT YOU ASKED. I 
DO.

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DO. 
I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL,

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I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL, 
THOUGH, NOT TO EQUATE WHAT

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THOUGH, NOT TO EQUATE WHAT 
HAPPENED TO ME AND MY FAMILY TO

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HAPPENED TO ME AND MY FAMILY TO 
WHAT HAPPENED TO CHARLIE KIRK

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WHAT HAPPENED TO CHARLIE KIRK 
OR SPEAKER HORTON OR OTHERS.

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OR SPEAKER HORTON OR OTHERS. 
I THINK THIS POLITICAL VIOLENCE

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I THINK THIS POLITICAL VIOLENCE 
LEAVES SCARS.

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LEAVES SCARS. 
CONGRESSMAN SCALISE AND

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CONGRESSMAN SCALISE AND 
CONGRESSMAN GIFFORDS ARE

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CONGRESSMAN GIFFORDS ARE 
EXAMPLES OF PHYSICAL SCARS THAT

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EXAMPLES OF PHYSICAL SCARS THAT 
YOU SEE WHEN THEY WALK OR WHEN

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YOU SEE WHEN THEY WALK OR WHEN 
THEY TALK OR WHEN THEY SIT BUT

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THEY TALK OR WHEN THEY SIT BUT 
IT ALSO LEAVES EMOTIONAL SCARS.

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IT ALSO LEAVES EMOTIONAL SCARS. 
I CAN TELL YOU I’VE BATTLED

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I CAN TELL YOU I’VE BATTLED 
THAT, SINCE THE ATTACK IN

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THAT, SINCE THE ATTACK IN 
APRIL.

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APRIL. 
MY EMOTIONAL SCARS HAVE LESS TO

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MY EMOTIONAL SCARS HAVE LESS TO 
DO WITH BEING GOVERNOR AND A

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DO WITH BEING GOVERNOR AND A 
WHOLE LOT MORE TO DO WITH BEING

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WHOLE LOT MORE TO DO WITH BEING 
A FATHER AND A FATHER OF FOUR

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A FATHER AND A FATHER OF FOUR 
CHILDREN, WHOSE LIVES WERE AT

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CHILDREN, WHOSE LIVES WERE AT 
RISK BECAUSE OF THE PROFESSION

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RISK BECAUSE OF THE PROFESSION 
THAT I CHOSE TO SERVE OTHER

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THAT I CHOSE TO SERVE OTHER 
PEOPLE.

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PEOPLE. 
THAT’S STUFF THAT I’VE HAD TO

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THAT’S STUFF THAT I’VE HAD TO 
WORK THROUGH AND I CONTINUE TO

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WORK THROUGH AND I CONTINUE TO 
WORK THROUGH IT.

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WORK THROUGH IT. 
SO I DON’T WANT TO EQUATE THE

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SO I DON’T WANT TO EQUATE THE 
CHALLENGES, THAT ME AND MY

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CHALLENGES, THAT ME AND MY 
FAMILY FACED WITH WHAT CHARLIE

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FAMILY FACED WITH WHAT CHARLIE 
KIRK’S WIDOW AND HIS TWO

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KIRK’S WIDOW AND HIS TWO 
CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO FACE.

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CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO FACE. 
IT’S NOT THE SAME BUT I CAN

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IT’S NOT THE SAME BUT I CAN 
TELL YOU AN ATTACK AGAINST

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TELL YOU AN ATTACK AGAINST 
ANYONE LEAVES SCARS.

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ANYONE LEAVES SCARS. 
I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IT’S NOT

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I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IT’S NOT 
JUST THE SCARS THAT LEAVES ON

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JUST THE SCARS THAT LEAVES ON 
THOSE WHO WERE TARGETED, I

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THOSE WHO WERE TARGETED, I 
THINK THAT MAKES US ALL LESS

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THINK THAT MAKES US ALL LESS 
SAFE.

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SAFE. 
I THINK IT PUTS US ALL AT RISK.

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I THINK IT PUTS US ALL AT RISK. 
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS

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IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS 
DANGEROUS, IT’S INSIDIOUS, AND

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DANGEROUS, IT’S INSIDIOUS, AND 
IT’S DESIGNED AS POLITICAL

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IT’S DESIGNED AS POLITICAL 
SPEECH TO LEAVE A SCAR ON THE

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SPEECH TO LEAVE A SCAR ON THE 
INDIVIDUAL AND TO SILENCE

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INDIVIDUAL AND TO SILENCE 
OTHERS AND WE’VE GOT TO FIGHT

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OTHERS AND WE’VE GOT TO FIGHT 
BACK AGAINST THAT.

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BACK AGAINST THAT. 
WE’VE GOT TO BE UNIVERSAL IN

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WE’VE GOT TO BE UNIVERSAL IN 
OUR ACTIONS TO COMBAT POLITICAL

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OUR ACTIONS TO COMBAT POLITICAL 
VIOLENCE.

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VIOLENCE. 
>> WELL, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT

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>> WELL, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT 
CHARLIE KIRK SPECIFICALLY,

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CHARLIE KIRK SPECIFICALLY, 
GOVERNOR NEWSOM BRACED CHARLIE

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GOVERNOR NEWSOM BRACED CHARLIE 
KIRK’S WILLINGNESS TO DEBATE

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KIRK’S WILLINGNESS TO DEBATE 
AND SPARK DIALOGUE, AS WERE A

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AND SPARK DIALOGUE, AS WERE A 
KIND SAID HE WAS PRACTICING

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KIND SAID HE WAS PRACTICING 
POLITICS THE RIGHT WAY.

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POLITICS THE RIGHT WAY. 
HOW DO YOU SEE CHARLIE KIRK’S

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HOW DO YOU SEE CHARLIE KIRK’S 
LEGACY?

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LEGACY? 
>> I SEE HIM AS SOMEONE WHO WAS

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>> I SEE HIM AS SOMEONE WHO WAS 
DEVOTED TO SPEECH AND DEBATE,

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DEVOTED TO SPEECH AND DEBATE, 
AND LOOK, IT SHOULD COME AS NO

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AND LOOK, IT SHOULD COME AS NO 
SURPRISE, I DISAGREE WITH WHAT

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SURPRISE, I DISAGREE WITH WHAT 
A LOT OF HE ESPOUSED AND HE

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A LOT OF HE ESPOUSED AND HE 
PROBABLY DISAGREE -- DISAGREED

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PROBABLY DISAGREE -- DISAGREED 
WITH WHAT I ESPOUSED.

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WITH WHAT I ESPOUSED. 
WE ARE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE AND

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WE ARE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE AND 
DISAGREEMENTS WHEN DONE

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DISAGREEMENTS WHEN DONE 
CONSTRUCTIVELY IS WHAT HELPS

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CONSTRUCTIVELY IS WHAT HELPS 
MAKE PROGRESS, WHEN IT COMES TO

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MAKE PROGRESS, WHEN IT COMES TO 
POLICY DIFFERENCES, FINDING

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POLICY DIFFERENCES, FINDING 
THAT COMMON GROUND.

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THAT COMMON GROUND. 
SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT

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SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT 
HE SHOWED UP IN TOWN SQUARES

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HE SHOWED UP IN TOWN SQUARES 
AND COLLEGE CAMPUSES, AND

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AND COLLEGE CAMPUSES, AND 
SOUGHT TO DEBATE OTHERS,

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SOUGHT TO DEBATE OTHERS, 
WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.

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WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. 
THE ANSWER TO DEBATE AND SPEECH

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THE ANSWER TO DEBATE AND SPEECH 
THAT YOU DON’T LIKE, IS NOT

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THAT YOU DON’T LIKE, IS NOT 
VIOLENCE, OR TAKING SOMEONE’S

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VIOLENCE, OR TAKING SOMEONE’S 
LIFE, IT’S MORE SPEECH, IT’S

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LIFE, IT’S MORE SPEECH, IT’S 
MORE DEBATE, IT’S MORE

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MORE DEBATE, IT’S MORE 
ENGAGEMENT.

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ENGAGEMENT. 
AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED MORE OF

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AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED MORE OF 
IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

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IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 
>> FREE SPEECH AND SPEECH HAS

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>> FREE SPEECH AND SPEECH HAS 
BEEN IN THE SPOTLIGHT THIS

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BEEN IN THE SPOTLIGHT THIS 
WEEK, AFTER THE NEWS THAT ABC

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WEEK, AFTER THE NEWS THAT ABC 
PULLED JIMMY KIMMEL, COMEDIAN,

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PULLED JIMMY KIMMEL, COMEDIAN, 
OFF THE AIR, AFTER COMMENTS

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OFF THE AIR, AFTER COMMENTS 
THAT HE MADE ON HIS LATE-NIGHT

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THAT HE MADE ON HIS LATE-NIGHT 
SHOW. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO

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SHOW. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO 
LEARNING THAT HE HAD BEEN

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LEARNING THAT HE HAD BEEN 
PULLED OFF THE AIR?

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PULLED OFF THE AIR? 
>> FEAR.

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>> FEAR. 
WORRY, FOR OUR COUNTRY.

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WORRY, FOR OUR COUNTRY. 
OUR FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE IN

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OUR FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE IN 
THIS COUNTRY, WHICH HAS ROOTS

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THIS COUNTRY, WHICH HAS ROOTS 
IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF

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IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF 
PENNSYLVANIA, WILLIAM PENN WHEN

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PENNSYLVANIA, WILLIAM PENN WHEN 
HE SETTLED IN THE 1680S, IT’S

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HE SETTLED IN THE 1680S, IT’S 
ABOUT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION,

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ABOUT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, 
FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND TO SEE

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND TO SEE 
THAT BEING UNDERMINED BY THE

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THAT BEING UNDERMINED BY THE 
LONG ARM OF THE FEDERAL

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LONG ARM OF THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, IS EXTREMELY

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GOVERNMENT, IS EXTREMELY 
DANGEROUS.

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DANGEROUS. 
AGAIN, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH

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AGAIN, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH 
JIMMY KIMMEL OR NOT, WHETHER

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JIMMY KIMMEL OR NOT, WHETHER 
YOU FOUND HIM FUNNY OR NOT, TO

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YOU FOUND HIM FUNNY OR NOT, TO 
FIRE SOMEONE BECAUSE HE TOLD A

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FIRE SOMEONE BECAUSE HE TOLD A 
JOKE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND

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JOKE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND 
THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T LIKE IT,

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THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T LIKE IT, 
TO FIRE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS IN

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TO FIRE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS IN 
ARTFUL IN HIS WORDS IN THE

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ARTFUL IN HIS WORDS IN THE 
KILLING OF CHARLIE KIRK WOULD

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KILLING OF CHARLIE KIRK WOULD 
HAVE OTHERS IN THE MEDIA AND I

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HAVE OTHERS IN THE MEDIA AND I 
KNOW -- I MEAN NO DISRESPECT,

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KNOW -- I MEAN NO DISRESPECT, 
WHO ARE ON ARTFUL EVERYDAY,

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WHO ARE ON ARTFUL EVERYDAY, 
WHEN WE ARE SELECTIVELY FIRING

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WHEN WE ARE SELECTIVELY FIRING 
PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR

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PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR 
VIEWPOINTS.

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VIEWPOINTS. 
AND IN ADDITION TO HAVING JIMMY

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AND IN ADDITION TO HAVING JIMMY 
KIMMEL NO LONGER ON THE AIR.

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KIMMEL NO LONGER ON THE AIR. 
I THINK THERE IS A DEEPER ISSUE

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I THINK THERE IS A DEEPER ISSUE 
THAT I WANTED TO JUST TAKE A

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THAT I WANTED TO JUST TAKE A 
MOMENT FOR.

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MOMENT FOR. 
I WAS ON A SPANISH-LANGUAGE

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I WAS ON A SPANISH-LANGUAGE 
RADIO PROGRAM IN THE ALLENTOWN

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RADIO PROGRAM IN THE ALLENTOWN 
AREA JUST THE OTHER DAY.

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AREA JUST THE OTHER DAY. 
THE HOST WAS ASKING ME A BUNCH

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THE HOST WAS ASKING ME A BUNCH 
OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK WE

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OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK WE 
ARE DOING HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

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ARE DOING HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. 
AND HE SAID SOMETHING REALLY

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AND HE SAID SOMETHING REALLY 
CHILLING TO ME.

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CHILLING TO ME. 
HE NOW HAS TWO THINK ABOUT WHAT

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HE NOW HAS TWO THINK ABOUT WHAT 
TOPICS HE’S GOING TO DISCUSS

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TOPICS HE’S GOING TO DISCUSS 
BECAUSE HE IS FEARFUL THAT HE

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BECAUSE HE IS FEARFUL THAT HE 
MIGHT OFFEND FEDERAL REGULATORS

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MIGHT OFFEND FEDERAL REGULATORS 
OR OFFEND THE PRESIDENT.

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OR OFFEND THE PRESIDENT. 
THIS WASN’T THAT TYPE OF A

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THIS WASN’T THAT TYPE OF A 
PROGRAM WHERE WE WERE ENGAGED

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PROGRAM WHERE WE WERE ENGAGED 
IN A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION

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IN A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION 
BUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE

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BUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE 
JOURNALISTS NOW, WHO WILL

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JOURNALISTS NOW, WHO WILL 
THING, DO I REALLY WANT TO

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THING, DO I REALLY WANT TO 
PROBE SOME ELECTED LEADER ON

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PROBE SOME ELECTED LEADER ON 
THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC BECAUSE

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THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC BECAUSE 
IT COULD OFFEND FEDERAL

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IT COULD OFFEND FEDERAL 
REGULATORS.

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REGULATORS. 
I WANT TO TELL THAT JOKE

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I WANT TO TELL THAT JOKE 
BECAUSE IT MIGHT PUT SOMEONE

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BECAUSE IT MIGHT PUT SOMEONE 
OFF, DO I WANT TO ADJUST MY

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OFF, DO I WANT TO ADJUST MY 
VIEWS TO BE MORE ON THE RIGHT

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VIEWS TO BE MORE ON THE RIGHT 
WING SIDE OF THE POLITICAL

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WING SIDE OF THE POLITICAL 
CONVERSATION TO CURRY FAVOR

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CONVERSATION TO CURRY FAVOR 
WITH THESE FEDERAL REGULATORS.

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WITH THESE FEDERAL REGULATORS. 
THAT, IN MANY WAYS, IS EVEN

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THAT, IN MANY WAYS, IS EVEN 
MORE DANGEROUS THAN SILENCING

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MORE DANGEROUS THAN SILENCING 
ONE PERSON.

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ONE PERSON. 
I THINK WE ARE AT A REALLY

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I THINK WE ARE AT A REALLY 
DANGEROUS MOMENT HERE.

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DANGEROUS MOMENT HERE. 
AND CENSORSHIP AND WHAT WE ARE

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AND CENSORSHIP AND WHAT WE ARE 
SEEING FROM THE FEDERAL

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SEEING FROM THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, ONLY SERVES TO

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GOVERNMENT, ONLY SERVES TO 
FURTHER DIVIDE US AND MAKE US

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FURTHER DIVIDE US AND MAKE US 
LESS SAFE AND ERODE OUR

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LESS SAFE AND ERODE OUR 
FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS HERE IN

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FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS HERE IN 
THIS COUNTRY, AND FOR A

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THIS COUNTRY, AND FOR A 
REPUBLICAN PARTY LED BY DONALD

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REPUBLICAN PARTY LED BY DONALD 
TRUMP, WHO LOVED, FOR DECADES,

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TRUMP, WHO LOVED, FOR DECADES, 
TO CLOAK THEMSELVES IN THIS

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TO CLOAK THEMSELVES IN THIS 
BLANKET OF PATRIOTISM AND

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BLANKET OF PATRIOTISM AND 
FREEDOM.

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FREEDOM. 
DONALD TRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT

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DONALD TRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT 
FREE SPEECH IN HIS INAUGURAL

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FREE SPEECH IN HIS INAUGURAL 
ADDRESS 7 TO 8 MONTHS AGO.

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ADDRESS 7 TO 8 MONTHS AGO. 
AND NOW, TO SEE HOW QUICKLY

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AND NOW, TO SEE HOW QUICKLY 
THEY ARE ERODING ONE OF THE

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THEY ARE ERODING ONE OF THE 
FOUNDATIONAL GUIDEPOSTS OF OUR

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FOUNDATIONAL GUIDEPOSTS OF OUR 
NATION, THAT SHOULD SCARE

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NATION, THAT SHOULD SCARE 
EVERYONE, WHETHER YOU AGREE

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EVERYONE, WHETHER YOU AGREE 
WITH THE PRESIDENT OR NOT.

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WITH THE PRESIDENT OR NOT. 
WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR HIM OR

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WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR HIM OR 
NOT.

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NOT. 
WE ARE ALL LESS SAFE AND LESS

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WE ARE ALL LESS SAFE AND LESS 
FREE BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF

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FREE BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF 
THIS ADMINISTRATION.

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THIS ADMINISTRATION. 
>> I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT

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>> I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT 
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, DO YOU

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WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, DO YOU 
BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

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BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP 
AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS

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AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS 
TRYING TO STIFLE DISSENT --

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TRYING TO STIFLE DISSENT -- 
>> WITHOUT QUESTION.

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>> WITHOUT QUESTION. 
WITHOUT QUESTION.

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WITHOUT QUESTION. 
THEY’RE TRYING TO STIFLE

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THEY’RE TRYING TO STIFLE 
DISSENT.

00:11:02.602 --> 00:11:03.659
DISSENT. 
THE PRESIDENT IN HIS OWN WORDS,

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THE PRESIDENT IN HIS OWN WORDS, 
HE WAS ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE A

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HE WAS ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE A 
COUPLE OF NIGHTS AGO, HE MADE

00:11:06.306 --> 00:11:07.730
COUPLE OF NIGHTS AGO, HE MADE 
CLEAR THAT HE WANTS TO LOOK AT

00:11:07.741 --> 00:11:08.574
CLEAR THAT HE WANTS TO LOOK AT 
THE LICENSES AND CERTIFICATIONS

00:11:08.608 --> 00:11:09.398
THE LICENSES AND CERTIFICATIONS 
FOR PARTICULAR MEDIA OUTLINES

00:11:09.409 --> 00:11:14.103
FOR PARTICULAR MEDIA OUTLINES 
IF ALL THEY ARE A DEEP -- DOING

00:11:14.114 --> 00:11:14.670
IF ALL THEY ARE A DEEP -- DOING 
IS ATTACKING TRUMP.

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IS ATTACKING TRUMP. 
THE BEDROCK OF OUR FREE SOCIETY

00:11:15.916 --> 00:11:16.939
THE BEDROCK OF OUR FREE SOCIETY 
IS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

00:11:16.950 --> 00:11:17.950
IS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. 
THE FREEDOM FOR SOMEONE LIKE

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THE FREEDOM FOR SOMEONE LIKE 
YOU TO ASK ME QUESTIONS AND

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YOU TO ASK ME QUESTIONS AND 
OPINE ABOUT MY WORK WHETHER I

00:11:20.454 --> 00:11:21.620
OPINE ABOUT MY WORK WHETHER I 
AGREE WITH YOU OR NOT, WHETHER

00:11:21.622 --> 00:11:23.056
AGREE WITH YOU OR NOT, WHETHER 
I LIKE WHAT YOU REPORT OR NOT,

00:11:23.090 --> 00:11:38.037
I LIKE WHAT YOU REPORT OR NOT, 
YOU’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE

00:11:38.038 --> 00:11:39.262
YOU’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE 
TO DO THAT, AND THAT IS

00:11:39.273 --> 00:11:40.239
TO DO THAT, AND THAT IS 
SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS ALL OF

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SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS ALL OF 
US.

00:11:40.541 --> 00:11:41.064
US. 
ALL OF US.

00:11:41.075 --> 00:11:42.108
ALL OF US. 
AND IT’S DANGEROUS WHAT THIS

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AND IT’S DANGEROUS WHAT THIS 
PRESIDENT IS ENGAGED IN.

00:11:42.943 --> 00:11:44.367
PRESIDENT IS ENGAGED IN. 
>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT

00:11:44.378 --> 00:11:45.035
>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT 
QUESTION BECAUSE PRESIDENT

00:11:45.046 --> 00:11:46.178
QUESTION BECAUSE PRESIDENT 
TRUMP HAS SAID, MAYBE WE SHOULD

00:11:46.180 --> 00:11:47.414
TRUMP HAS SAID, MAYBE WE SHOULD 
REVOKE THE LICENSES OF OTHER TV

00:11:47.448 --> 00:11:47.847
REVOKE THE LICENSES OF OTHER TV 
NETWORKS.

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NETWORKS. 
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF

00:11:48.716 --> 00:11:48.981
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF 
THAT.

00:11:48.983 --> 00:11:50.083
THAT. 
WHAT WAS YOUR GOT WHEN YOU

00:11:50.084 --> 00:11:50.674
WHAT WAS YOUR GOT WHEN YOU 
FIRST HEARD THAT?

00:11:50.685 --> 00:11:53.719
FIRST HEARD THAT? 
>> IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE HAVE

00:11:53.754 --> 00:11:54.954
>> IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE HAVE 
LESS FREEDOM, WHICH IS WHAT THE

00:11:54.955 --> 00:11:55.812
LESS FREEDOM, WHICH IS WHAT THE 
PRESIDENT IS DOING, RESTRICTING

00:11:55.823 --> 00:11:56.746
PRESIDENT IS DOING, RESTRICTING 
ONE’S ABILITY TO SPEAK, WHICH

00:11:56.757 --> 00:11:57.857
ONE’S ABILITY TO SPEAK, WHICH 
IS, ENSHRINED IN THE FIRST

00:11:57.858 --> 00:11:58.691
IS, ENSHRINED IN THE FIRST 
AMENDMENT, THE FIRST AMENDMENT,

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AMENDMENT, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, 
OF OUR CONSTITUTION, WE ARE ALL

00:12:01.495 --> 00:12:01.928
OF OUR CONSTITUTION, WE ARE ALL 
LESS SAFE.

00:12:01.962 --> 00:12:02.962
LESS SAFE. 
WE ARE ALL LESS FREE.

00:12:02.963 --> 00:12:04.187
WE ARE ALL LESS FREE. 
AND IF YOU ATTACK SOMEONE TODAY

00:12:04.198 --> 00:12:18.702
AND IF YOU ATTACK SOMEONE TODAY 
BECAUSE OF A PIGLET --

00:12:18.713 --> 00:12:19.512
BECAUSE OF A PIGLET -- 
PARTICULAR POLITICAL VIEWPOINT,

00:12:19.513 --> 00:12:20.747
PARTICULAR POLITICAL VIEWPOINT, 
WHAT’S TO SAY THAT YOU WILL NOT

00:12:20.781 --> 00:12:21.571
WHAT’S TO SAY THAT YOU WILL NOT 
SILENT SOMEONE TOMORROW BECAUSE

00:12:21.582 --> 00:12:22.782
SILENT SOMEONE TOMORROW BECAUSE 
OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, HOW

00:12:22.783 --> 00:12:24.007
OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, HOW 
THEY PRAY, WHO THEY LOVE, IT’S

00:12:24.018 --> 00:12:25.017
THEY PRAY, WHO THEY LOVE, IT’S 
A REALLY DANGEROUS AND SLIPPERY

00:12:25.019 --> 00:12:25.352
A REALLY DANGEROUS AND SLIPPERY 
SLOPE.

00:12:25.386 --> 00:12:26.686
SLOPE. 
>> HIS ARGUMENT IS SOME OF THIS

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>> HIS ARGUMENT IS SOME OF THIS 
TALK IS DANGEROUS AND IT MAY

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TALK IS DANGEROUS AND IT MAY 
HAVE, THE KILLING OF CHARLIE

00:12:32.826 --> 00:12:33.116
HAVE, THE KILLING OF CHARLIE 
KIRK.

00:12:33.127 --> 00:12:34.017
KIRK. 
>> JURISPRUDENCE HAS MADE CLEAR

00:12:34.028 --> 00:12:35.262
>> JURISPRUDENCE HAS MADE CLEAR 
THAT HE SPEECH WHETHER YOU LIKE

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THAT HE SPEECH WHETHER YOU LIKE 
IT OR NOT, AGREE WITH IT OR

00:12:36.697 --> 00:12:37.320
IT OR NOT, AGREE WITH IT OR 
NOT, IS LEGAL.

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NOT, IS LEGAL. 
INCITING VIOLENCE THROUGH

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INCITING VIOLENCE THROUGH 
SPEECH IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT

00:12:49.710 --> 00:12:50.133
SPEECH IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT 
IS ILLEGAL.

00:12:50.144 --> 00:12:51.344
IS ILLEGAL. 
IT CAN BE RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF

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IT CAN BE RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF 
COURSE, WE NEED TO KEEP PEOPLE

00:12:52.547 --> 00:12:52.846
COURSE, WE NEED TO KEEP PEOPLE 
SAFE.

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SAFE. 
I THINK IT IS A LONG WAY TO GO

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I THINK IT IS A LONG WAY TO GO 
TO SAY, A COMEDIAN ON LATE-

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TO SAY, A COMEDIAN ON LATE-
NIGHT TV TELLS A JOKE ABOUT THE

00:12:57.051 --> 00:12:58.084
NIGHT TV TELLS A JOKE ABOUT THE 
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

00:12:58.119 --> 00:12:59.119
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 
THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T LIKE

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THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T LIKE 
OR LET’S TAKE YOUR NETWORK,

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OR LET’S TAKE YOUR NETWORK, 
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE WHICH MAKES

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SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE WHICH MAKES 
FUN OF EVERYONE, RIGHT, THAT

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FUN OF EVERYONE, RIGHT, THAT 
THAT SOMEHOW INCITES VIOLENCE.

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THAT SOMEHOW INCITES VIOLENCE. 
THERE’S A BIG DIFFERENCE

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THERE’S A BIG DIFFERENCE 
BETWEEN HATEFUL SPEECH OR

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BETWEEN HATEFUL SPEECH OR 
SPEECH THAT DONALD TRUMP JUST

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SPEECH THAT DONALD TRUMP JUST 
DOESN’T LIKE, AND SPEECH THAT

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DOESN’T LIKE, AND SPEECH THAT 
INCITES VIOLENCE, FOR EXAMPLE,

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INCITES VIOLENCE, FOR EXAMPLE, 
YELLING FIRE IN A MOVIE

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YELLING FIRE IN A MOVIE 
THEATER.

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THEATER. 
THERE CAN BE BLURRED LINES IN

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THERE CAN BE BLURRED LINES IN 
TERMS OF, WHEN YOU’RE GETTING

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TERMS OF, WHEN YOU’RE GETTING 
CLOSE TO WHAT IS INSIGHTFUL

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CLOSE TO WHAT IS INSIGHTFUL 
VERSUS LET’S JUST HATEFUL.

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VERSUS LET’S JUST HATEFUL. 
I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS

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I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS 
DESCRIBING DOESN’T COME CLOSE

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DESCRIBING DOESN’T COME CLOSE 
TO THAT MARK.

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TO THAT MARK. 
>> I WANT TO TURN NOW TO

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>> I WANT TO TURN NOW TO 
SOMETHING THAT HAS GOTTEN THE

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SOMETHING THAT HAS GOTTEN THE 
ATTENTION OF THE COUNTRY BUT

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ATTENTION OF THE COUNTRY BUT 
PARTICULARLY, THE DEMOCRATIC

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PARTICULARLY, THE DEMOCRATIC 
PARTY.

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PARTY. 
WE ARE STARTING TO HEAR ABOUT

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WE ARE STARTING TO HEAR ABOUT 
THE FIRST EXCERPTS OF THE BOOK

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THE FIRST EXCERPTS OF THE BOOK 
RELEASE OF FORMER VICE

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RELEASE OF FORMER VICE 
PRESIDENT, IRS -- KAMALA

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PRESIDENT, IRS -- KAMALA 
HARRIS, THAT COMES OUT THIS

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HARRIS, THAT COMES OUT THIS 
WEEK.

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WEEK. 
YOU WERE ON THE SHORT LIST TO

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YOU WERE ON THE SHORT LIST TO 
BE PUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS’S

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BE PUT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS’S 
RUNNING MATE.

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RUNNING MATE. 
I WANT TO READ ABOUT WHAT SHE

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I WANT TO READ ABOUT WHAT SHE 
WRITES ABOUT YOU.

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WRITES ABOUT YOU. 
SHE WRITES YOU SEEMED MORE

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SHE WRITES YOU SEEMED MORE 
FOCUSED ON DEFINING THE ROLE

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FOCUSED ON DEFINING THE ROLE 
THAT HELPING HER, THAT YOU EVEN

00:14:08.256 --> 00:14:09.223
THAT HELPING HER, THAT YOU EVEN 
ASKED ABOUT ARTWORK FOR THE

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ASKED ABOUT ARTWORK FOR THE 
RESIDENCE, AND SHE WORRIED THAT

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RESIDENCE, AND SHE WORRIED THAT 
YOU WOULD, QUOTE, BE UNABLE TO

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YOU WOULD, QUOTE, BE UNABLE TO 
SETTLE FOR A ROLE AS NUMBER

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SETTLE FOR A ROLE AS NUMBER 
TWO.

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TWO. 
IS THAT AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT?

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IS THAT AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT? 
>> THE ONLY THING I WAS FOCUSED

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>> THE ONLY THING I WAS FOCUSED 
ON WAS WORKING MY TAIL OFF TO

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ON WAS WORKING MY TAIL OFF TO 
DENY DONALD TRUMP A SECOND

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DENY DONALD TRUMP A SECOND 
TERM.

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TERM. 
I CRISSCROSSED THE COMMONWEALTH

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I CRISSCROSSED THE COMMONWEALTH 
OF PENNSYLVANIA, I TRIED TO

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OF PENNSYLVANIA, I TRIED TO 
MAKE CLEAR THE DANGERS I SAW IN

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MAKE CLEAR THE DANGERS I SAW IN 
DONALD TRUMP, THAT COST WOULD

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DONALD TRUMP, THAT COST WOULD 
GO UP AND OUR FREEDOMS WOULD GO

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GO UP AND OUR FREEDOMS WOULD GO 
DOWN.

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DOWN. 
SADLY I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT,

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SADLY I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT, 
DONALD TRUMP HAS HAD A CHANCE

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DONALD TRUMP HAS HAD A CHANCE 
TO RETURN TO THE OVAL OFFICE.

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TO RETURN TO THE OVAL OFFICE. 
I WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT

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I WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT 
DIDN’T HAPPEN AND SADLY, WE

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DIDN’T HAPPEN AND SADLY, WE 
WERE UNSUCCESSFUL ABOUT THAT.

00:14:46.929 --> 00:14:48.153
WERE UNSUCCESSFUL ABOUT THAT. 
AS FOR THE PROCESS I WENT

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AS FOR THE PROCESS I WENT 
THROUGH WITH THE VICE

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THROUGH WITH THE VICE 
PRESIDENT, I SAID THROUGHOUT

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PRESIDENT, I SAID THROUGHOUT 
IT, SHE HAD A PERSONAL DECISION

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IT, SHE HAD A PERSONAL DECISION 
TO MAKE AND IN THE END, SO DID

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TO MAKE AND IN THE END, SO DID 
I. I THINK I’M GOING TO GO

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I. I THINK I’M GOING TO GO 
FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO DO THIS

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FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO DO THIS 
WORK, TO PUSH BACK ON WHAT THE

00:15:00.876 --> 00:15:01.909
WORK, TO PUSH BACK ON WHAT THE 
PRESIDENT IS DOING AND PROTECT

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PRESIDENT IS DOING AND PROTECT 
MY ESTATE.

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MY ESTATE. 
>> ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED THOUGH,

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>> ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED THOUGH, 
THAT SHE SEEMS TO BE

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THAT SHE SEEMS TO BE 
CHARACTERIZING THIS DECISION-

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CHARACTERIZING THIS DECISION-
MAKING PROCESS, INVOKING YOUR

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MAKING PROCESS, INVOKING YOUR 
NAME --

00:15:11.954 --> 00:15:13.254
NAME -- 
>> LOOK, I HAVEN’T READ HER

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>> LOOK, I HAVEN’T READ HER 
BOOK, SHE SANG A LOT OF THINGS

00:15:14.857 --> 00:15:16.314
BOOK, SHE SANG A LOT OF THINGS 
ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT I

00:15:16.325 --> 00:15:16.858
ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT I 
HAVEN’T READ IT.

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HAVEN’T READ IT. 
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP WON

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>> PRESIDENT TRUMP WON 
PENNSYLVANIA BY LESS THAN TWO

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PENNSYLVANIA BY LESS THAN TWO 
POINTS, GOVERNOR, DO YOU THINK

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POINTS, GOVERNOR, DO YOU THINK 
YOU COULD HAVE DELIVERED THIS

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YOU COULD HAVE DELIVERED THIS 
STATE FOR KAMALA HARRIS?

00:15:25.301 --> 00:15:26.935
STATE FOR KAMALA HARRIS? 
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS

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>> AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS 
WAS A CHOICE THAT VOTERS HAD,

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WAS A CHOICE THAT VOTERS HAD, 
THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE.

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THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE. 
I OBVIOUSLY DISAGREE WITH IT

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I OBVIOUSLY DISAGREE WITH IT 
AND I WORKED HARD TO DO

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AND I WORKED HARD TO DO 
EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO ELECT

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EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO ELECT 
KAMALA HARRIS AND MY GOOD

00:15:43.719 --> 00:15:47.255
KAMALA HARRIS AND MY GOOD 
FRIEND GOVERNOR TIM WALZ, BUT

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FRIEND GOVERNOR TIM WALZ, BUT 
IN THE END I RESPECT THE WILL

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IN THE END I RESPECT THE WILL 
OF THE VOTERS.

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OF THE VOTERS. 
>> HARRIS SAID IT WAS QUOTE

00:15:49.292 --> 00:15:50.048
>> HARRIS SAID IT WAS QUOTE 
RECKLESS FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND

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RECKLESS FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND 
FORMER PRESIDENT BIDEN TO LEAVE

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FORMER PRESIDENT BIDEN TO LEAVE 
THE DECISION UP TO PRESIDENT

00:15:59.702 --> 00:16:00.725
THE DECISION UP TO PRESIDENT 
BIDEN AND THE FIRST LADY.

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BIDEN AND THE FIRST LADY. 
DO YOU AGREE WITH HER

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DO YOU AGREE WITH HER 
ASSESSMENT THAT IT WAS RECKLESS

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ASSESSMENT THAT IT WAS RECKLESS 
FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN’S INNER

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FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN’S INNER 
CIRCLE NOT TO INTERVENE?

00:16:04.407 --> 00:16:05.631
CIRCLE NOT TO INTERVENE? 
>> AGAIN, SHE CAN EXPLAIN WHAT

00:16:05.642 --> 00:16:06.832
>> AGAIN, SHE CAN EXPLAIN WHAT 
SHE MEANS BY THAT, I CAN’T

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SHE MEANS BY THAT, I CAN’T 
COMMENT ON THAT.

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COMMENT ON THAT. 
HERE’S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU.

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HERE’S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU. 
I MADE A POINT TO SPEAK TO THE

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I MADE A POINT TO SPEAK TO THE 
PEOPLE AROUND THE PRESIDENT,

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PEOPLE AROUND THE PRESIDENT, 
REPEATEDLY, ABOUT WHAT I SAW

00:16:12.148 --> 00:16:17.720
REPEATEDLY, ABOUT WHAT I SAW 
WERE WORRYING SIGNS HERE IN

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WERE WORRYING SIGNS HERE IN 
PENNSYLVANIA. WHEN I FELT THAT

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PENNSYLVANIA. WHEN I FELT THAT 
THEY WERE NOT SHARING THAT

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THEY WERE NOT SHARING THAT 
INFORMATION DIRECTLY WITH THE

00:16:40.143 --> 00:16:41.166
INFORMATION DIRECTLY WITH THE 
PRESIDENT, I WENT DIRECTLY TO

00:16:41.177 --> 00:16:41.977
PRESIDENT, I WENT DIRECTLY TO 
THE FORMER PRESIDENT, AND

00:16:41.978 --> 00:16:43.235
THE FORMER PRESIDENT, AND 
SHARED THAT WITH HIM, WHEN WE

00:16:43.246 --> 00:16:44.446
SHARED THAT WITH HIM, WHEN WE 
MET AT A COFFEE SHOP IN

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MET AT A COFFEE SHOP IN 
HARRISBURG.

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HARRISBURG. 
I WAS VERY DIRECT AND VERY

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I WAS VERY DIRECT AND VERY 
BLUNT ABOUT WHAT I SAW WERE

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BLUNT ABOUT WHAT I SAW WERE 
WORRYING SIGNS, ELECTORALLY,

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WORRYING SIGNS, ELECTORALLY, 
ABOUT HIS PROSPECTS TO BE ABLE

00:16:48.985 --> 00:16:49.551
ABOUT HIS PROSPECTS TO BE ABLE 
TO WIN AGAIN.

00:16:49.552 --> 00:16:50.552
TO WIN AGAIN. 
I BELIEVE IN SPEAKING DIRECTLY

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I BELIEVE IN SPEAKING DIRECTLY 
TO PEOPLE WHEN I’VE GOT

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TO PEOPLE WHEN I’VE GOT 
SOMETHING TO SAY.

00:16:52.222 --> 00:16:53.445
SOMETHING TO SAY. 
>> DO YOU THINK KAMALA HARRIS

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>> DO YOU THINK KAMALA HARRIS 
WOULD BE A STRONG CANDIDATE IN

00:16:58.762 --> 00:16:59.061
WOULD BE A STRONG CANDIDATE IN 
2028?

00:16:59.062 --> 00:17:00.219
2028? 
>> THAT’S FOR THE VOTERS TO

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>> THAT’S FOR THE VOTERS TO 
DECIDE.

00:17:00.564 --> 00:17:02.088
DECIDE. 
>> I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT YOUR OWN

00:17:02.099 --> 00:17:02.588
>> I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT YOUR OWN 
POLITICAL FUTURE.

00:17:02.599 --> 00:17:03.732
POLITICAL FUTURE. 
YOU ARE UP FOR REELECTION NEXT

00:17:03.767 --> 00:17:04.066
YOU ARE UP FOR REELECTION NEXT 
YEAR.

00:17:04.067 --> 00:17:05.367
YEAR. 
DO YOU COMMIT TO SERVING OUT A

00:17:05.368 --> 00:17:05.791
DO YOU COMMIT TO SERVING OUT A 
FULL TERM.

00:17:05.802 --> 00:17:06.769
FULL TERM. 
>> I HAVEN’T ANNOUNCED MY

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>> I HAVEN’T ANNOUNCED MY 
REELECTION YET.

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REELECTION YET. 
LET ME FOCUS ON MY WORK THAT WE

00:17:08.872 --> 00:17:09.872
LET ME FOCUS ON MY WORK THAT WE 
ARE DOING, INVESTING IN PUBLIC

00:17:09.873 --> 00:17:10.696
ARE DOING, INVESTING IN PUBLIC 
EDUCATION, HIRING MORE POLICE,

00:17:10.707 --> 00:17:11.464
EDUCATION, HIRING MORE POLICE, 
REDUCE CRIME, INVESTING IN

00:17:11.475 --> 00:17:12.308
REDUCE CRIME, INVESTING IN 
IMPORTANT WORK IN ECONOMIC

00:17:12.309 --> 00:17:12.742
IMPORTANT WORK IN ECONOMIC 
DEVELOPMENT.

00:17:12.776 --> 00:17:13.599
DEVELOPMENT. 
OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN EXPLOSIVE.

00:17:13.610 --> 00:17:14.544
OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN EXPLOSIVE. 
WE LANDED THE LARGEST PRIVATE

00:17:14.578 --> 00:17:15.368
WE LANDED THE LARGEST PRIVATE 
SECTOR INVESTMENT AND HISTORY

00:17:15.379 --> 00:17:16.603
SECTOR INVESTMENT AND HISTORY 
OF THE COMMONWEALTH AND WE ARE

00:17:16.614 --> 00:17:22.809
OF THE COMMONWEALTH AND WE ARE 
MAKING SURE TO STAND UP TO THE

00:17:22.820 --> 00:17:26.155
MAKING SURE TO STAND UP TO THE 
EXCESSES OF DONALD TRUMP AND

00:17:26.189 --> 00:17:26.812
EXCESSES OF DONALD TRUMP AND 
PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS.

00:17:26.823 --> 00:17:28.014
PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS. 
I’M FOCUSED LIKE A LASER BEAM

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I’M FOCUSED LIKE A LASER BEAM 
ON DOING MY WORK.

00:17:28.892 --> 00:17:30.316
ON DOING MY WORK. 
>> DO YOU RULE OUT RUNNING FOR

00:17:30.327 --> 00:17:30.860
>> DO YOU RULE OUT RUNNING FOR 
PRESIDENT IN 2028?

00:17:30.894 --> 00:17:32.318
PRESIDENT IN 2028? 
>> AGAIN, LET ME FOCUS ON THE

00:17:32.329 --> 00:17:33.363
>> AGAIN, LET ME FOCUS ON THE 
WORK THAT I’M DOING IN

00:17:33.397 --> 00:17:33.853
WORK THAT I’M DOING IN 
PENNSYLVANIA.

00:17:33.864 --> 00:17:34.596
PENNSYLVANIA. 
WE WILL FOCUS ON 2026.

00:17:34.598 --> 00:17:36.432
WE WILL FOCUS ON 2026. 
>> YOU WILL MAKE AN

00:17:36.433 --> 00:17:37.266
>> YOU WILL MAKE AN 
ANNOUNCEMENT SOON ABOUT RUNNING

00:17:37.301 --> 00:17:42.529
ANNOUNCEMENT SOON ABOUT RUNNING 
IN 2026.

00:17:42.540 --> 00:17:42.972
IN 2026. 
>> I

00:17:58.422 --> 00:17:59.188
>>> WELCOME BACK, JOINING ME

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>>> WELCOME BACK, JOINING ME 
NOW IS REPUBLICAN SENATOR RAND

00:18:00.224 --> 00:18:00.790
NOW IS REPUBLICAN SENATOR RAND 
PAUL OF KENTUCKY.

00:18:00.791 --> 00:18:02.525
PAUL OF KENTUCKY. 
SENATOR PAUL, WELCOME BACK TO

00:18:02.526 --> 00:18:03.159
SENATOR PAUL, WELCOME BACK TO 
"MEET THE PRESS".

00:18:03.193 --> 00:18:04.216
"MEET THE PRESS". 
>> GOOD MORNING, THANKS FOR

00:18:04.227 --> 00:18:04.617
>> GOOD MORNING, THANKS FOR 
HAVING ME.

00:18:04.628 --> 00:18:07.263
HAVING ME. 
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH  FOR BEING

00:18:07.298 --> 00:18:07.597
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH  FOR BEING 
HERE.

00:18:07.598 --> 00:18:08.498
HERE. 
OF COURSE, TODAY IS THE

00:18:08.499 --> 00:18:23.813
OF COURSE, TODAY IS THE 
MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR CHARLIE

00:18:23.814 --> 00:18:24.113
MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR CHARLIE 
KURT.

00:18:24.115 --> 00:18:25.439
KURT. 
I KNOW YOU HAVE CALLED HIM A

00:18:25.450 --> 00:18:26.449
I KNOW YOU HAVE CALLED HIM A 
FRIEND AND SENATOR, YOU OF

00:18:26.450 --> 00:18:27.450
FRIEND AND SENATOR, YOU OF 
COURSE, HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY

00:18:27.451 --> 00:18:28.341
COURSE, HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY 
POLITICAL VIOLENCE YOURSELF, IN

00:18:28.352 --> 00:18:29.485
POLITICAL VIOLENCE YOURSELF, IN 
2017, YOU WERE ON THE BASEBALL

00:18:29.520 --> 00:18:30.720
2017, YOU WERE ON THE BASEBALL 
FIELD WHEN SHOTS RANG OUT WHEN

00:18:30.721 --> 00:18:31.511
FIELD WHEN SHOTS RANG OUT WHEN 
CONGRESSMAN STEVE SCALISE WAS

00:18:31.522 --> 00:18:31.821
CONGRESSMAN STEVE SCALISE WAS 
SHOT.

00:18:31.822 --> 00:18:32.378
SHOT. 
HE DID SURVIVE.

00:18:32.389 --> 00:18:33.556
HE DID SURVIVE. 
BUT SENATOR I WONDER, WHAT DO

00:18:33.557 --> 00:18:34.791
BUT SENATOR I WONDER, WHAT DO 
YOU THINK THE LEGACY OF CHARLIE

00:18:34.825 --> 00:18:35.615
YOU THINK THE LEGACY OF CHARLIE 
KIRK WILL BE?

00:18:35.626 --> 00:18:37.250
KIRK WILL BE? 
>> YOU KNOW, I WENT TO MANY OF

00:18:37.261 --> 00:18:40.554
>> YOU KNOW, I WENT TO MANY OF 
CHARLIE KIRK’S RALLIES.

00:18:40.565 --> 00:18:41.964
CHARLIE KIRK’S RALLIES. 
MY WIFE SPOKE AT HIS RALLIES, I

00:18:41.966 --> 00:18:50.974
MY WIFE SPOKE AT HIS RALLIES, I 
HAVE SPOKEN ON CAMPUS WITH HIM.

00:18:50.975 --> 00:18:52.008
HAVE SPOKEN ON CAMPUS WITH HIM. 
THE EVENTS EARLIER ON WEREN’T

00:18:52.043 --> 00:18:53.267
THE EVENTS EARLIER ON WEREN’T 
AS BIG, THEY GOT BIGGER OVER

00:18:53.278 --> 00:18:54.468
AS BIG, THEY GOT BIGGER OVER 
TIME, BUT HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE

00:18:54.479 --> 00:18:54.912
TIME, BUT HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE 
YOUNG MAN.

00:18:54.946 --> 00:18:57.004
YOUNG MAN. 
I THINK, ARTICULATE,

00:18:57.015 --> 00:18:57.981
I THINK, ARTICULATE, 
THOUGHTFUL, AND IF YOU REALLY

00:18:57.982 --> 00:18:59.382
THOUGHTFUL, AND IF YOU REALLY 
SEE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME UP TO

00:18:59.383 --> 00:19:00.416
SEE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME UP TO 
HIM WHO HAD A DIFFERENT

00:19:00.451 --> 00:19:01.474
HIM WHO HAD A DIFFERENT 
VIEWPOINT, HE WOULD HEAR THEM

00:19:01.485 --> 00:19:01.751
VIEWPOINT, HE WOULD HEAR THEM 
OUT.

00:19:01.753 --> 00:19:02.853
OUT. 
AND THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN A LOT

00:19:02.854 --> 00:19:03.887
AND THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN A LOT 
OF THE ARGUMENTATION THAT YOU

00:19:03.888 --> 00:19:10.894
OF THE ARGUMENTATION THAT YOU 
SEE EITHER ON TV OR THE

00:19:10.895 --> 00:19:11.685
SEE EITHER ON TV OR THE 
INTERNET WHERE EVERYBODY IS

00:19:11.696 --> 00:19:12.286
INTERNET WHERE EVERYBODY IS 
DROWNING PEOPLE OUT.

00:19:12.297 --> 00:19:13.296
DROWNING PEOPLE OUT. 
HE WOULD LISTEN TO PEOPLE.

00:19:13.297 --> 00:19:14.531
HE WOULD LISTEN TO PEOPLE. 
I THINK HE WILL BE REMEMBERED

00:19:14.565 --> 00:19:15.789
I THINK HE WILL BE REMEMBERED 
FOR THAT AND ALSO BE REMEMBERED

00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:17.191
FOR THAT AND ALSO BE REMEMBERED 
FOR A GUY THAT WAS TRYING TO

00:19:17.202 --> 00:19:18.201
FOR A GUY THAT WAS TRYING TO 
SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS

00:19:18.202 --> 00:19:18.568
SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS 
CHRIST.

00:19:18.569 --> 00:19:19.702
CHRIST. 
THAT I THINK SHOULD BE

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THAT I THINK SHOULD BE 
APPLAUDED.

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APPLAUDED. 
>> THOUSANDS PAYING TRIBUTE TO

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>> THOUSANDS PAYING TRIBUTE TO 
HIM TODAY, SENATOR, SO WE

00:19:21.906 --> 00:19:22.472
HIM TODAY, SENATOR, SO WE 
APPRECIATE THAT.

00:19:22.473 --> 00:19:23.964
APPRECIATE THAT. 
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT ABC’S

00:19:23.975 --> 00:19:29.870
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT ABC’S 
DECISION THIS WEEK TO SUBSIDE

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DECISION THIS WEEK TO SUBSIDE 
AND -- SUSPEND JIMMY KIMMEL

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AND -- SUSPEND JIMMY KIMMEL 
SHOW.

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SHOW. 
HE WAS SUSPENDED AFTER COMMENTS

00:19:46.698 --> 00:19:47.922
HE WAS SUSPENDED AFTER COMMENTS 
THAT HE MADE, HOURS AFTER THE

00:19:47.933 --> 00:19:48.966
THAT HE MADE, HOURS AFTER THE 
FCC CHAIRMAN, BRENDAN CARR SAID

00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:49.299
FCC CHAIRMAN, BRENDAN CARR SAID 
THIS.

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THIS. 
>> WE CAN DO THIS THE EASY WAY

00:19:50.802 --> 00:19:51.592
>> WE CAN DO THIS THE EASY WAY 
OR THE HARD WAY.

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OR THE HARD WAY. 
THESE COMPANIES CAN FIND WAYS

00:19:52.704 --> 00:19:53.704
THESE COMPANIES CAN FIND WAYS 
TO CHANGE CONDUCT AND TAKE

00:19:53.705 --> 00:19:55.706
TO CHANGE CONDUCT AND TAKE 
ACTION, FRANKLY, ON  KIMMEL OR

00:19:55.707 --> 00:19:56.707
ACTION, FRANKLY, ON  KIMMEL OR 
THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL WORK

00:19:56.708 --> 00:19:57.565
THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL WORK 
FOR THE FCC AHEAD.

00:19:57.576 --> 00:19:58.776
FOR THE FCC AHEAD. 
>> SENATOR, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT

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>> SENATOR, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT 
BRENDAN CARR’S COMMENTS WERE

00:20:04.449 --> 00:20:15.082
BRENDAN CARR’S COMMENTS WERE 
APPROPRIATE?

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APPROPRIATE?  
>> ABSOLUTELY INAPPROPRIATE.

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>> ABSOLUTELY INAPPROPRIATE. 
BRENDAN CARR HAS NO BUSINESS

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BRENDAN CARR HAS NO BUSINESS 
WEIGHING IN ON THIS BUT PEOPLE

00:20:17.930 --> 00:20:18.962
WEIGHING IN ON THIS BUT PEOPLE 
HAVE TO ALSO REALIZE THAT

00:20:18.964 --> 00:20:19.797
HAVE TO ALSO REALIZE THAT 
DESPICABLE COMMENTS, YOU HAVE

00:20:19.831 --> 00:20:21.322
DESPICABLE COMMENTS, YOU HAVE 
THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT BUT YOU

00:20:21.333 --> 00:20:22.356
THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT BUT YOU 
DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO

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DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO 
EMPLOYMENT.

00:20:22.768 --> 00:20:23.558
EMPLOYMENT. 
VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY EMPLOYED

00:20:23.569 --> 00:20:24.401
VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY EMPLOYED 
PROBABLY INCLUDING YOURSELF HAS

00:20:24.436 --> 00:20:25.026
PROBABLY INCLUDING YOURSELF HAS 
A CODE OF CONDUCT.

00:20:25.037 --> 00:20:26.261
A CODE OF CONDUCT. 
IN YOUR CONTRACT, YOU HAVE TO

00:20:26.272 --> 00:20:26.804
IN YOUR CONTRACT, YOU HAVE TO  
ADHERE TO IT.

00:20:26.838 --> 00:20:27.895
ADHERE TO IT. 
NFL PLAYERS HAVE IT, BASEBALL

00:20:27.906 --> 00:20:29.073
NFL PLAYERS HAVE IT, BASEBALL 
PLAYERS HAVE IT, IF YOU DON’T

00:20:29.074 --> 00:20:30.331
PLAYERS HAVE IT, IF YOU DON’T 
ADHERE TO THAT CONDUCT IF YOU

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ADHERE TO THAT CONDUCT IF YOU 
SAY THINGS THAT ARE

00:20:31.777 --> 00:20:32.443
SAY THINGS THAT ARE 
REPREHENSIBLE OR GLORIFY

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REPREHENSIBLE OR GLORIFY 
SOMEONE’S DEATH, YEAH, YOU CAN

00:20:33.445 --> 00:20:33.868
SOMEONE’S DEATH, YEAH, YOU CAN 
BE FIRED.

00:20:33.879 --> 00:20:35.069
BE FIRED. 
THE FCC SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO

00:20:35.080 --> 00:20:35.713
THE FCC SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO 
DO WITH IT.

00:20:35.747 --> 00:20:41.952
DO WITH IT. 
BUT I DO THINK, A COUPLE OF THE

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BUT I DO THINK, A COUPLE OF THE 
NETWORKS PULLED OUT, SINCLAIR

00:20:45.791 --> 00:20:46.790
NETWORKS PULLED OUT, SINCLAIR 
PULLED OUT, THEY WERE DISGUSTED

00:20:46.792 --> 00:20:47.358
PULLED OUT, THEY WERE DISGUSTED 
BY THE COMMENTS.

00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:48.192
BY THE COMMENTS. 
THAT IS THEIR RIGHT.

00:20:48.193 --> 00:20:49.627
THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. 
YOU CAN BE FIRED FOR NOT BEING

00:20:49.661 --> 00:20:50.451
YOU CAN BE FIRED FOR NOT BEING 
POPULAR, ALSO, THIS IS

00:20:50.462 --> 00:20:51.252
POPULAR, ALSO, THIS IS 
TELEVISION, FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

00:20:51.263 --> 00:21:04.999
TELEVISION, FOR GOODNESS SAKES. 
YOU HAVE TO SELL SPONSORSHIPS,

00:21:05.010 --> 00:21:06.010
YOU HAVE TO SELL SPONSORSHIPS, 
COMMERCIALS AND IF YOU ARE

00:21:06.011 --> 00:21:07.268
COMMERCIALS AND IF YOU ARE 
LOSING MONEY, YOU CAN BE FIRED.

00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:08.279
LOSING MONEY, YOU CAN BE FIRED. 
THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS

00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:08.703
THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS 
IN IT.

00:21:08.714 --> 00:21:10.114
IN IT. 
THE FCC WAS WRONG AND I WILL

00:21:10.115 --> 00:21:11.148
THE FCC WAS WRONG AND I WILL 
FIGHT ANY ATTEMPT BY THE

00:21:11.183 --> 00:21:12.206
FIGHT ANY ATTEMPT BY THE 
GOVERNMENT TO GET INVOLVED IN

00:21:12.217 --> 00:21:12.507
GOVERNMENT TO GET INVOLVED IN 
SPEECH.

00:21:12.518 --> 00:21:13.775
SPEECH. 
>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT

00:21:13.786 --> 00:21:15.086
>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT 
QUESTION BECAUSE I DO WANT TO

00:21:15.087 --> 00:21:16.054
QUESTION BECAUSE I DO WANT TO 
ASK YOU BROADLY SPEAKING, ABOUT

00:21:16.088 --> 00:21:16.511
ASK YOU BROADLY SPEAKING, ABOUT 
FREE SPEECH.

00:21:16.522 --> 00:21:17.712
FREE SPEECH. 
I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT

00:21:17.723 --> 00:21:18.556
I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT 
PRESIDENT TRUMP PROMISED DURING

00:21:18.591 --> 00:21:19.381
PRESIDENT TRUMP PROMISED DURING 
HIS INAUGURAL ADDRESS FOLLOWED

00:21:19.392 --> 00:21:20.648
HIS INAUGURAL ADDRESS FOLLOWED 
BY COMMENTS THAT HE MAY JUST

00:21:20.659 --> 00:21:21.559
BY COMMENTS THAT HE MAY JUST 
THIS WEEK, TAKE A LOOK.

00:21:21.594 --> 00:21:22.851
THIS WEEK, TAKE A LOOK. 
>> I WILL ALSO SIGN AN

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>> I WILL ALSO SIGN AN 
EXECUTIVE ORDER TO IMMEDIATELY

00:21:23.696 --> 00:21:24.586
EXECUTIVE ORDER TO IMMEDIATELY 
STOP ALL GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP,

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STOP ALL GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP, 
AND BRING BACK FREE SPEECH TO

00:21:25.798 --> 00:21:26.154
AND BRING BACK FREE SPEECH TO 
AMERICA.

00:21:26.165 --> 00:21:29.267
AMERICA. 
>> WHEN SOMEBODY IS GIVEN 97%

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>> WHEN SOMEBODY IS GIVEN 97% 
OF THE STORIES THAT ARE BAD

00:21:30.503 --> 00:21:31.503
OF THE STORIES THAT ARE BAD 
ABOUT A PERSON, THAT’S NO

00:21:31.504 --> 00:21:47.919
ABOUT A PERSON, THAT’S NO 
LONGER FREE SPEECH, THAT’S JUST

00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:48.319
LONGER FREE SPEECH, THAT’S JUST 
CHEATING.

00:21:48.321 --> 00:21:53.682
CHEATING. 
>> SENATOR, DO YOU BELIEVE

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>> SENATOR, DO YOU BELIEVE 
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SENDING THE

00:21:54.427 --> 00:21:55.150
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SENDING THE 
MESSAGE THAT HE ONLY SUPPORTS

00:21:55.161 --> 00:21:55.817
MESSAGE THAT HE ONLY SUPPORTS 
FREE SPEECH WHEN IT’S SPEECH

00:21:55.828 --> 00:21:56.394
FREE SPEECH WHEN IT’S SPEECH 
THAT HE AGREES WITH?

00:21:56.429 --> 00:21:57.152
THAT HE AGREES WITH? 
>> WELL, THIS IS WHY IT’S KIND

00:21:57.163 --> 00:21:57.819
>> WELL, THIS IS WHY IT’S KIND 
OF RICH FOR GOVERNOR SHAPIRO

00:21:57.830 --> 00:21:58.563
OF RICH FOR GOVERNOR SHAPIRO 
ALSO TO COME ON AND BE OUTRAGED

00:21:58.564 --> 00:21:59.030
ALSO TO COME ON AND BE OUTRAGED 
BY CENSORSHIP.

00:21:59.031 --> 00:21:59.697
BY CENSORSHIP. 
WAS HE ASLEEP FOR THE FOUR

00:21:59.732 --> 00:22:00.255
WAS HE ASLEEP FOR THE FOUR 
YEARS OF THE BIDEN

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YEARS OF THE BIDEN 
ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY DID

00:22:00.967 --> 00:22:01.500
ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY DID 
HAVE CENSORSHIP?

00:22:01.534 --> 00:22:02.357
HAVE CENSORSHIP? 
THE FBI, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

00:22:02.368 --> 00:22:03.068
THE FBI, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 
SECURITY WERE SENT TO THE

00:22:03.069 --> 00:22:03.659
SECURITY WERE SENT TO THE 
OFFICES OF TWITTER.

00:22:03.670 --> 00:22:04.702
OFFICES OF TWITTER. 
SENT TO THE OFFICER -- OFFICES

00:22:04.737 --> 00:22:06.962
SENT TO THE OFFICER -- OFFICES 
OF FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK WAS TOLD

00:22:06.973 --> 00:22:07.772
OF FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK WAS TOLD 
TO TAKE DOWN INFORMATION

00:22:07.807 --> 00:22:24.179
TO TAKE DOWN INFORMATION 
REGARDING THE ORIGINS OF THE

00:22:24.190 --> 00:22:24.580
REGARDING THE ORIGINS OF THE 
CORONAVIRUS.

00:22:24.591 --> 00:22:25.356
CORONAVIRUS. 
WE’VE HAD OFFICIAL CENSORSHIP

00:22:25.358 --> 00:22:26.582
WE’VE HAD OFFICIAL CENSORSHIP 
GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND

00:22:26.593 --> 00:22:27.550
GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND 
EVERYBODY ON THE LEFT JUST

00:22:27.561 --> 00:22:28.393
EVERYBODY ON THE LEFT JUST 
LOOKS THE OTHER WAY.

00:22:28.394 --> 00:22:29.694
LOOKS THE OTHER WAY. 
THEY ACTUALLY HAD AN OFFICE OF

00:22:29.696 --> 00:22:30.095
THEY ACTUALLY HAD AN OFFICE OF 
CENSORSHIP.

00:22:30.096 --> 00:22:31.153
CENSORSHIP. 
SO I APPLAUD TRUMP FOR BRINGING

00:22:31.164 --> 00:22:31.587
SO I APPLAUD TRUMP FOR BRINGING 
THAT DOWN.

00:22:31.598 --> 00:22:32.555
THAT DOWN. 
NOW, GOING AFTER THE FCC

00:22:32.566 --> 00:22:33.398
NOW, GOING AFTER THE FCC 
LICENSES IS WRONG AND

00:22:33.399 --> 00:22:38.803
LICENSES IS WRONG AND 
INCONSISTENT WITH THAT.

00:22:38.838 --> 00:22:57.546
INCONSISTENT WITH THAT. 
I APPLAUD TRUMP FOR GETTING RID

00:22:57.557 --> 00:22:58.758
I APPLAUD TRUMP FOR GETTING RID 
OF THE CENSORSHIP OFFICE IN OUR

00:22:58.792 --> 00:22:59.815
OF THE CENSORSHIP OFFICE IN OUR 
GOVERNMENT BUT I THINK PEOPLE

00:22:59.826 --> 00:23:00.793
GOVERNMENT BUT I THINK PEOPLE 
SHOULD DISCONTINUE THIS IDEA OF

00:23:00.794 --> 00:23:01.761
SHOULD DISCONTINUE THIS IDEA OF 
POLICING HATE SPEECH OR SENDING

00:23:01.795 --> 00:23:02.652
POLICING HATE SPEECH OR SENDING 
THE FCC AFTER NETWORKS.

00:23:02.663 --> 00:23:03.486
THE FCC AFTER NETWORKS. 
I’M OPPOSED TO THAT.

00:23:03.497 --> 00:23:04.720
I’M OPPOSED TO THAT. 
>> TO BE CLEAR, I MEAN,

00:23:04.731 --> 00:23:05.688
>> TO BE CLEAR, I MEAN, 
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE

00:23:05.699 --> 00:23:06.766
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE 
VOWED TO QUOTE STOP ALL

00:23:06.800 --> 00:23:07.590
VOWED TO QUOTE STOP ALL 
GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP AND BRING

00:23:07.601 --> 00:23:08.601
GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP AND BRING 
BACK FREE SPEECH TO AMERICA.

00:23:08.602 --> 00:23:10.093
BACK FREE SPEECH TO AMERICA. 
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT

00:23:10.104 --> 00:23:11.503
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT 
JUST TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU ARE

00:23:11.505 --> 00:23:12.562
JUST TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU ARE 
SEEING RIGHT NOW FROM THE

00:23:12.573 --> 00:23:13.539
SEEING RIGHT NOW FROM THE 
PRESIDENT HIMSELF, DO YOU THINK

00:23:13.540 --> 00:23:14.740
PRESIDENT HIMSELF, DO YOU THINK 
HE IS DOING THAT, IS HE

00:23:14.741 --> 00:23:15.407
HE IS DOING THAT, IS HE 
PROTECTING FREE SPEECH?

00:23:15.408 --> 00:23:16.375
PROTECTING FREE SPEECH? 
>> ACTUALLY, IT HAS OCCURRED

00:23:16.409 --> 00:23:17.266
>> ACTUALLY, IT HAS OCCURRED 
ALL THROUGHOUT GOVERNMENT, THE

00:23:17.277 --> 00:23:18.101
ALL THROUGHOUT GOVERNMENT, THE 
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

00:23:18.112 --> 00:23:20.903
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY 
IS NO LONGER SENDING OFFICERS

00:23:20.914 --> 00:23:22.181
IS NO LONGER SENDING OFFICERS 
TO TWITTER TO TALK TO THEM

00:23:22.215 --> 00:23:22.614
TO TWITTER TO TALK TO THEM 
ABOUT --

00:23:22.616 --> 00:23:24.040
ABOUT -- 
>> BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT TRUMP IS

00:23:24.051 --> 00:23:24.340
>> BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT TRUMP IS 
SAYING?

00:23:24.351 --> 00:23:25.141
SAYING? 
>> WELL, I CAN’T CONTROL

00:23:25.152 --> 00:23:26.009
>> WELL, I CAN’T CONTROL 
EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT SAYS,

00:23:26.020 --> 00:23:27.286
EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT SAYS, 
AND I DON’T THINK HAVING THE

00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:33.115
AND I DON’T THINK HAVING THE 
FCC WEIGH IN ON LICENSES IS

00:23:33.126 --> 00:23:39.331
FCC WEIGH IN ON LICENSES IS 
WRONG -- IS RIGHT.

00:23:39.333 --> 00:23:40.590
WRONG -- IS RIGHT. 
I CAN TELL YOU THE CENSORSHIP

00:23:40.601 --> 00:23:41.567
I CAN TELL YOU THE CENSORSHIP 
APPARATUS THAT BIDEN PUT IN

00:23:41.568 --> 00:23:42.158
APPARATUS THAT BIDEN PUT IN 
PLACE IS GONE.

00:23:42.169 --> 00:23:43.636
PLACE IS GONE. 
I HAVE A BILL TO DO THAT

00:23:43.637 --> 00:23:44.637
I HAVE A BILL TO DO THAT 
THROUGH LEGISLATION BUT I CAN

00:23:44.638 --> 00:23:45.671
THROUGH LEGISLATION BUT I CAN 
TELL YOU THROUGHOUT THE TRUMP

00:23:45.672 --> 00:23:46.438
TELL YOU THROUGHOUT THE TRUMP 
ADMINISTRATION, THEY’VE STOPPED

00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:46.806
ADMINISTRATION, THEY’VE STOPPED 
DOING IT.

00:23:46.840 --> 00:23:47.697
DOING IT. 
IT DOESN’T ALWAYS MATCH THE

00:23:47.708 --> 00:23:48.507
IT DOESN’T ALWAYS MATCH THE 
WORDS YOU ARE HEARING.

00:23:48.542 --> 00:23:49.465
WORDS YOU ARE HEARING. 
I THINK PEOPLE ARE RAW,

00:23:49.476 --> 00:23:50.276
I THINK PEOPLE ARE RAW, 
UNHAPPY, UNHAPPY, WE ARE

00:23:50.310 --> 00:24:01.010
UNHAPPY, UNHAPPY, WE ARE 
MOURNING THE LOSS OF CHERRY --

00:24:01.021 --> 00:24:01.454
MOURNING THE LOSS OF CHERRY -- 
CHARLIE KIRK.

00:24:01.455 --> 00:24:02.422
CHARLIE KIRK. 
SOME PEOPLE THINK LET’S RESORT

00:24:02.456 --> 00:24:02.946
SOME PEOPLE THINK LET’S RESORT 
TO GOVERNMENT.

00:24:02.957 --> 00:24:04.280
TO GOVERNMENT. 
I’M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE BUT

00:24:04.291 --> 00:24:05.682
I’M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE BUT 
I ALSO DO THINK THERE ARE OTHER

00:24:05.693 --> 00:24:07.127
I ALSO DO THINK THERE ARE OTHER 
WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE LET GO

00:24:07.161 --> 00:24:08.385
WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE LET GO 
AND KIMMEL COULD BE LET GO

00:24:08.396 --> 00:24:09.395
AND KIMMEL COULD BE LET GO 
SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS CONTRACT,

00:24:09.396 --> 00:24:10.429
SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS CONTRACT, 
NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY OR

00:24:10.464 --> 00:24:11.254
NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY OR 
SAYING SOMETHING THAT DEFIES

00:24:11.265 --> 00:24:12.088
SAYING SOMETHING THAT DEFIES 
THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:13.266
THE CODE OF CONDUCT. 
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER

00:24:13.267 --> 00:24:14.534
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER 
IF THE FCC WOULD HAVE STAYED

00:24:14.568 --> 00:24:15.191
IF THE FCC WOULD HAVE STAYED 
OUT OF IT.

00:24:15.202 --> 00:24:16.336
OUT OF IT. 
>> A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS

00:24:16.370 --> 00:24:17.594
>> A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS 
TO GET TO WITH YOU HERE.

00:24:17.605 --> 00:24:18.795
TO GET TO WITH YOU HERE. 
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOMETHING

00:24:18.806 --> 00:24:24.444
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOMETHING 
THAT OCCURRED ON SATURDAY.

00:24:24.478 --> 00:24:38.181
THAT OCCURRED ON SATURDAY. 
PRESIDENT TRUMP PUBLICLY PUSHED

00:24:38.192 --> 00:24:39.215
PRESIDENT TRUMP PUBLICLY PUSHED 
HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL PAM BONDI,

00:24:39.226 --> 00:24:40.026
HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL PAM BONDI, 
TO PROSECUTE HIS POLITICAL

00:24:40.027 --> 00:24:41.227
TO PROSECUTE HIS POLITICAL 
OPPONENTS, LET ME READ A COUPLE

00:24:41.228 --> 00:24:42.261
OPPONENTS, LET ME READ A COUPLE 
OF THE PEOPLE HE MENTIONED,

00:24:42.296 --> 00:24:43.052
OF THE PEOPLE HE MENTIONED, 
FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES

00:24:43.063 --> 00:24:43.863
FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES 
COMEY, DEMOCRATIC SENATOR ADAM

00:24:43.898 --> 00:24:44.898
COMEY, DEMOCRATIC SENATOR ADAM 
SHIFF OF CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK

00:24:44.899 --> 00:24:45.722
SHIFF OF CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK 
ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA JAMES.

00:24:45.733 --> 00:24:46.900
ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA JAMES. 
HE WROTE THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA,

00:24:46.901 --> 00:24:47.934
HE WROTE THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, 
QUOTE, WE CAN’T DELAY ANY

00:24:47.935 --> 00:24:48.268
QUOTE, WE CAN’T DELAY ANY 
LONGER.

00:24:48.302 --> 00:24:49.159
LONGER. 
IT’S KILLING OUR REPUTATION AND

00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:49.602
IT’S KILLING OUR REPUTATION AND 
CREDIBILITY.

00:24:49.603 --> 00:24:50.369
CREDIBILITY. 
THEY IMPEACHED ME TWICE AND

00:24:50.404 --> 00:24:51.427
THEY IMPEACHED ME TWICE AND 
INDICTED ME FIVE TIMES OVER

00:24:51.438 --> 00:24:51.771
INDICTED ME FIVE TIMES OVER 
NOTHING.

00:24:51.806 --> 00:24:52.629
NOTHING. 
JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED NOW.

00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.607
JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED NOW. 
DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS

00:24:53.608 --> 00:24:54.441
DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS 
APPROPRIATE FOR THE PRESIDENT

00:24:54.442 --> 00:24:55.475
APPROPRIATE FOR THE PRESIDENT 
TO DIRECT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

00:24:55.509 --> 00:24:56.509
TO DIRECT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 
TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL

00:24:56.510 --> 00:24:57.066
TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL 
OPPONENTS, SENATOR?

00:24:57.077 --> 00:25:01.180
OPPONENTS, SENATOR? 
>> I THINK, I THINK LAW FAIR IN

00:25:01.215 --> 00:25:02.615
>> I THINK, I THINK LAW FAIR IN 
ALL FORMS IS BAD, WHAT THEY DID

00:25:02.617 --> 00:25:03.617
ALL FORMS IS BAD, WHAT THEY DID 
BY CHANGING THE STATUTE OF

00:25:03.618 --> 00:25:04.641
BY CHANGING THE STATUTE OF 
LIMITATIONS, ADDING UP A BUNCH

00:25:04.652 --> 00:25:10.557
LIMITATIONS, ADDING UP A BUNCH 
OF MISDEMEANORS, ADDING UP UP

00:25:10.558 --> 00:25:11.591
OF MISDEMEANORS, ADDING UP UP 
BUNCH OF RECORDS VIOLATIONS AND

00:25:11.626 --> 00:25:12.382
BUNCH OF RECORDS VIOLATIONS AND 
MAKING THEM INTO FELONIES,

00:25:12.393 --> 00:25:13.193
MAKING THEM INTO FELONIES, 
APPROVING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

00:25:13.227 --> 00:25:14.484
APPROVING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS 
OF DOLLARS IN FINES, WHEN THERE

00:25:14.495 --> 00:25:22.869
OF DOLLARS IN FINES, WHEN THERE 
WAS NO AGGRIEVED PARTY, NO ONE

00:25:22.870 --> 00:25:23.903
WAS NO AGGRIEVED PARTY, NO ONE 
COMPLAINED, THAT WAS LAW FAIR

00:25:23.938 --> 00:25:24.961
COMPLAINED, THAT WAS LAW FAIR 
BUT IT’S ALSO WRONG IF

00:25:24.972 --> 00:25:25.729
BUT IT’S ALSO WRONG IF 
REPUBLICANS DO IT, DO.

00:25:25.740 --> 00:25:27.164
REPUBLICANS DO IT, DO. 
WE NEED TO GET POLITICS OUT OF

00:25:27.175 --> 00:25:28.409
WE NEED TO GET POLITICS OUT OF 
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS MUCH AS

00:25:28.443 --> 00:25:29.867
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS MUCH AS 
WE CAN BUT WE CAN’T DO IT

00:25:29.878 --> 00:25:32.512
WE CAN BUT WE CAN’T DO IT 
WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE

00:25:32.547 --> 00:25:34.038
WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE 
KING OF LAW FAIR WAS BIDEN, SO

00:25:34.049 --> 00:25:35.639
KING OF LAW FAIR WAS BIDEN, SO 
IT’S WRONG IF WE DO IT BUT IT

00:25:35.650 --> 00:25:36.673
IT’S WRONG IF WE DO IT BUT IT 
CERTAINLY WAS WRONG WHEN BIDEN

00:25:36.684 --> 00:25:37.875
CERTAINLY WAS WRONG WHEN BIDEN 
AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE DOING IT

00:25:37.886 --> 00:25:38.576
AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE DOING IT 
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

00:25:38.587 --> 00:25:39.686
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
>> SENATOR, YOU ARE MAKING THE

00:25:39.687 --> 00:25:41.121
>> SENATOR, YOU ARE MAKING THE 
ARGUMENT IT WAS WRONG THEN, DO

00:25:41.155 --> 00:25:42.012
ARGUMENT IT WAS WRONG THEN, DO 
YOU EXPLICITLY DISAGREE WITH

00:25:42.023 --> 00:25:47.228
YOU EXPLICITLY DISAGREE WITH 
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S POST?

00:25:47.262 --> 00:25:51.322
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S POST? 
>> I JUST SAID LAW FAIR OF ALL

00:25:51.333 --> 00:25:52.332
>> I JUST SAID LAW FAIR OF ALL 
SORTS IS WRONG, REPUBLICAN OR

00:25:52.367 --> 00:25:53.591
SORTS IS WRONG, REPUBLICAN OR 
DEMOCRAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT

00:25:53.602 --> 00:25:54.601
DEMOCRAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT 
IT INTO CONTEXT ALSO AND

00:25:54.602 --> 00:25:55.559
IT INTO CONTEXT ALSO AND 
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE KING OF

00:25:55.570 --> 00:25:57.037
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE KING OF 
ALL LAW FAIR WAS BIDEN AND THE

00:25:57.072 --> 00:26:10.141
ALL LAW FAIR WAS BIDEN AND THE 
DEMOCRATS, WHAT THEY DID TO

00:26:10.152 --> 00:26:11.118
DEMOCRATS, WHAT THEY DID TO 
TRUMP WAS AN ABOMINATION BUT

00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:12.553
TRUMP WAS AN ABOMINATION BUT 
YES, IT IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE

00:26:12.587 --> 00:26:13.587
YES, IT IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE 
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO DO THE

00:26:13.588 --> 00:26:14.011
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO DO THE 
SAME THING.

00:26:14.022 --> 00:26:15.413
SAME THING. 
>> I THINK THERE WOULD BE A

00:26:15.424 --> 00:26:16.056
>> I THINK THERE WOULD BE A 
DEBATE OVER THAT

00:26:16.091 --> 00:26:17.091
DEBATE OVER THAT 
CHARACTERIZATION, BUT I WANT TO

00:26:17.092 --> 00:26:18.316
CHARACTERIZATION, BUT I WANT TO 
MOVE ON BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING

00:26:18.327 --> 00:26:18.859
MOVE ON BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING 
OUT OF TIME.

00:26:18.894 --> 00:26:20.351
OUT OF TIME. 
I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THE BIG

00:26:20.362 --> 00:26:24.798
I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THE BIG 
TOPIC THAT IS CONSUMING CAPITOL

00:26:24.800 --> 00:26:25.833
TOPIC THAT IS CONSUMING CAPITOL 
HILL, OF COURSE AT THE

00:26:25.834 --> 00:26:26.624
HILL, OF COURSE AT THE 
POSSIBILITY OF A GOVERNMENT

00:26:26.635 --> 00:26:27.001
POSSIBILITY OF A GOVERNMENT 
SHUTDOWN.

00:26:27.002 --> 00:26:28.069
SHUTDOWN. 
YOU ARE ONE OF TWO REPUBLICANS

00:26:28.103 --> 00:26:28.893
YOU ARE ONE OF TWO REPUBLICANS 
THAT VOTED DEMOCRAT OPPOSING

00:26:28.904 --> 00:26:29.727
THAT VOTED DEMOCRAT OPPOSING 
THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING BILL,

00:26:29.738 --> 00:26:30.771
THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING BILL, 
SENATOR, DO YOU THINK THE

00:26:30.806 --> 00:26:31.806
SENATOR, DO YOU THINK THE 
GOVERNMENT IS HEADED TOWARDS A

00:26:31.807 --> 00:26:32.206
GOVERNMENT IS HEADED TOWARDS A 
SHUTDOWN?

00:26:32.207 --> 00:26:32.830
SHUTDOWN? 
>> I HOPE NOT.

00:26:32.841 --> 00:26:34.032
>> I HOPE NOT. 
I THINK IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO

00:26:34.043 --> 00:26:34.832
I THINK IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO 
CLOSE THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.

00:26:34.843 --> 00:26:35.800
CLOSE THE GOVERNMENT DOWN. 
THE REPUBLICAN PLAN WOULD ADD

00:26:35.811 --> 00:26:41.683
THE REPUBLICAN PLAN WOULD ADD 
$2 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT.

00:26:41.717 --> 00:26:51.249
$2 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT. 
THE DEMOCRAT PLAN WAS GOING TO

00:26:51.260 --> 00:26:52.450
THE DEMOCRAT PLAN WAS GOING TO 
ADD $3 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT.

00:26:52.461 --> 00:26:53.251
ADD $3 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT. 
THIS IS MY POINT.

00:26:53.262 --> 00:26:54.295
THIS IS MY POINT. 
BOTH PARTIES ARE TERRIBLE AT

00:26:54.329 --> 00:26:54.985
BOTH PARTIES ARE TERRIBLE AT 
ADDRESSING OUR DEFICIT.

00:26:54.996 --> 00:26:56.363
ADDRESSING OUR DEFICIT. 
WE HAVE A $37 TRILLION DEBT, $1

00:26:56.365 --> 00:26:57.322
WE HAVE A $37 TRILLION DEBT, $1 
TRILLION IN INTEREST AND IT’S

00:26:57.333 --> 00:26:58.165
TRILLION IN INTEREST AND IT’S 
BECAUSE BOTH PARTIES ARE

00:26:58.167 --> 00:26:58.533
BECAUSE BOTH PARTIES ARE 
TERRIBLE.

00:26:58.534 --> 00:26:59.601
TERRIBLE. 
I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE THE

00:26:59.635 --> 00:27:05.964
I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE THE 
REPUBLICAN OR THE DEMOCRAT

00:27:05.975 --> 00:27:06.240
REPUBLICAN OR THE DEMOCRAT 
PLAN.

00:27:06.241 --> 00:27:07.174
PLAN. 
I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY COME

00:27:07.176 --> 00:27:07.966
I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY COME 
TOGETHER BUT TYPICALLY THE

00:27:07.977 --> 00:27:08.976
TOGETHER BUT TYPICALLY THE 
COMPROMISE IS TO MAKE THINGS

00:27:08.977 --> 00:27:09.343
COMPROMISE IS TO MAKE THINGS 
WORSE.

00:27:09.344 --> 00:27:10.110
WORSE. 
THE COMPROMISE THROUGH THE

00:27:10.145 --> 00:27:11.268
THE COMPROMISE THROUGH THE 
YEARS IS THE RIGHT GETS MORE

00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:12.313
YEARS IS THE RIGHT GETS MORE 
MILITARY SPENDING AND THE LEFT

00:27:12.348 --> 00:27:13.371
MILITARY SPENDING AND THE LEFT 
GETS MORE WELFARE SPENDING AND

00:27:13.382 --> 00:27:14.139
GETS MORE WELFARE SPENDING AND 
THE DEFICIT CONTINUES TO

00:27:14.150 --> 00:27:14.515
THE DEFICIT CONTINUES TO 
EXPLODE.

00:27:14.550 --> 00:27:15.340
EXPLODE. 
OUR DEBT HAS BEEN DOWNGRADED.

00:27:15.351 --> 00:27:16.608
OUR DEBT HAS BEEN DOWNGRADED. 
WE ARE HAVING OUR AAA RATING

00:27:16.619 --> 00:27:17.418
WE ARE HAVING OUR AAA RATING 
HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY.

00:27:17.453 --> 00:27:18.576
HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY. 
WE FACE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AS A

00:27:18.587 --> 00:27:19.654
WE FACE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AS A 
COUNTRY IF WE DON’T DO

00:27:19.655 --> 00:27:24.325
COUNTRY IF WE DON’T DO 
SOMETHING SO SIMPLE THEN JUST

00:27:24.360 --> 00:27:25.383
SOMETHING SO SIMPLE THEN JUST 
START SPENDING WHAT COMES IN.

00:27:25.394 --> 00:27:25.927
START SPENDING WHAT COMES IN. 
BALANCE OUR BUDGET.

00:27:25.961 --> 00:27:27.218
BALANCE OUR BUDGET. 
>> SENATOR PAUL, THANK YOU SO

00:27:27.229 --> 00:27:27.986
>> SENATOR PAUL, THANK YOU SO 
MUCH FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

00:27:27.997 --> 00:27:33.067
MUCH FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE. 
WE REALLY APPRECIATE

00:27:44.713 --> 00:27:46.370
>>> WELCOME BACK, THE PANEL IS

00:27:46.381 --> 00:27:46.681
>>> WELCOME BACK, THE PANEL IS 
HERE.

00:27:46.716 --> 00:27:49.608
HERE. 
NEW YORK TIMES WHITE HOUSE

00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:55.146
NEW YORK TIMES WHITE HOUSE 
CORRESPONDENT TYLER PAGER,

00:27:55.157 --> 00:27:55.790
CORRESPONDENT TYLER PAGER, 
ADRIAN ELROD FORMER

00:27:55.825 --> 00:27:59.251
ADRIAN ELROD FORMER 
SPOKESPERSON FOR THE HARRIS

00:27:59.262 --> 00:27:59.627
SPOKESPERSON FOR THE HARRIS 
CAMPAIGN.

00:27:59.629 --> 00:28:02.521
CAMPAIGN. 
PAUL RYAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING

00:28:02.532 --> 00:28:02.854
PAUL RYAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING 
HERE.

00:28:02.865 --> 00:28:03.698
HERE. 
LET ME START WITH YOU.

00:28:03.733 --> 00:28:13.599
LET ME START WITH YOU. 
LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS

00:28:13.610 --> 00:28:14.576
LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS 
CONSUMED I THINK THE HEADLINES

00:28:14.577 --> 00:28:15.811
CONSUMED I THINK THE HEADLINES 
THIS WEEK, AND THE FACT THAT

00:28:15.845 --> 00:28:16.668
THIS WEEK, AND THE FACT THAT 
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REALLY

00:28:16.679 --> 00:28:17.646
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REALLY 
SPARKED THIS DEBATE OVER FREE

00:28:17.647 --> 00:28:17.970
SPARKED THIS DEBATE OVER FREE 
SPEECH.

00:28:17.981 --> 00:28:18.870
SPEECH. 
HE SUGGESTED THAT ANY CRITICISM

00:28:18.881 --> 00:28:20.081
HE SUGGESTED THAT ANY CRITICISM 
OF HIM COULD BE REALLY ILLEGAL,

00:28:20.083 --> 00:28:21.116
OF HIM COULD BE REALLY ILLEGAL, 
TAKE US INSIDE THE CONVERSATION

00:28:21.150 --> 00:28:22.207
TAKE US INSIDE THE CONVERSATION 
WITH SOME OF YOUR SOURCES.

00:28:22.218 --> 00:28:23.385
WITH SOME OF YOUR SOURCES. 
>> WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT

00:28:23.386 --> 00:28:24.586
>> WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT 
LEGAL ARGUMENT WOULD BE IN THE

00:28:24.587 --> 00:28:34.429
LEGAL ARGUMENT WOULD BE IN THE 
WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT SAID THAT,

00:28:34.464 --> 00:28:35.254
WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT SAID THAT, 
BUT SINCE CHARLIE KIRK’S

00:28:35.265 --> 00:28:35.820
BUT SINCE CHARLIE KIRK’S 
KILLING, SPOKEN TO

00:28:35.831 --> 00:28:36.588
KILLING, SPOKEN TO 
CONSERVATIVES, INDEPENDENTS,

00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:37.365
CONSERVATIVES, INDEPENDENTS, 
PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH HIM,

00:28:37.367 --> 00:28:38.133
PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH HIM, 
DISAGREED, THEY SAID POLITICAL

00:28:38.167 --> 00:28:41.026
DISAGREED, THEY SAID POLITICAL 
VIOLENCE IS COMPLETELY

00:28:41.037 --> 00:28:41.837
VIOLENCE IS COMPLETELY 
UNACCEPTABLE BUT THEY DEFENDED

00:28:41.871 --> 00:28:42.828
UNACCEPTABLE BUT THEY DEFENDED 
HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.

00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:44.062
HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. 
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE

00:28:44.073 --> 00:28:44.663
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE 
PRESIDENT IS SAYING.

00:28:44.674 --> 00:28:50.646
PRESIDENT IS SAYING. 
HE IS SAYING THE GOVERNMENT HAS

00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:55.941
HE IS SAYING THE GOVERNMENT HAS 
THE RIGHT TO SUPPRESS THE

00:28:55.952 --> 00:28:56.876
THE RIGHT TO SUPPRESS THE 
SPEECH TO EVEN PUNISH SPEAKERS,

00:28:56.887 --> 00:28:58.110
SPEECH TO EVEN PUNISH SPEAKERS, 
IF HE DOESN’T LIKE WHAT THEY

00:28:58.121 --> 00:28:58.754
IF HE DOESN’T LIKE WHAT THEY 
HAVE TO SAY.

00:28:58.788 --> 00:29:00.012
HAVE TO SAY. 
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE

00:29:00.023 --> 00:29:00.989
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE 
CONSTITUTION SAYS, JUST TO BE

00:29:00.990 --> 00:29:01.313
CONSTITUTION SAYS, JUST TO BE 
CLEAR.

00:29:01.324 --> 00:29:02.424
CLEAR. 
THIS WAS ALL TELLING VERY EARLY

00:29:02.425 --> 00:29:03.015
THIS WAS ALL TELLING VERY EARLY 
IN THE PRESIDENCY.

00:29:03.026 --> 00:29:04.226
IN THE PRESIDENCY. 
WE SAW HIM, AND ATTACK THE

00:29:04.227 --> 00:29:05.260
WE SAW HIM, AND ATTACK THE 
PRESS, BANNING THE AP FROM

00:29:05.295 --> 00:29:06.152
PRESS, BANNING THE AP FROM 
COVERING EVENTS, THE DEPARTMENT

00:29:06.163 --> 00:29:06.962
COVERING EVENTS, THE DEPARTMENT 
OF DEFENSE BANNING SOME

00:29:06.997 --> 00:29:07.653
OF DEFENSE BANNING SOME 
REPORTERS, THE PRESIDENT

00:29:07.664 --> 00:29:15.127
REPORTERS, THE PRESIDENT 
CUTTING FUNDING, IT HAS SHIFTED,

00:29:15.138 --> 00:29:16.772
CUTTING FUNDING, IT HAS SHIFTED,
HE’S GOING FROM THE PRESS TO

00:29:16.806 --> 00:29:17.462
HE’S GOING FROM THE PRESS TO 
GOING AFTER COMEDIANS.

00:29:17.473 --> 00:29:18.640
GOING AFTER COMEDIANS. 
HE HAS TALKED ABOUT GOING AFTER

00:29:18.642 --> 00:29:27.807
HE HAS TALKED ABOUT GOING AFTER 
PROTESTERS WHO INSULTED HIM IN

00:29:27.818 --> 00:29:28.284
PROTESTERS WHO INSULTED HIM IN 
RESTAURANTS.

00:29:28.318 --> 00:29:29.108
RESTAURANTS. 
I’VE LIVED IN COUNTRIES WHERE

00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:29.976
I’VE LIVED IN COUNTRIES WHERE 
THERE ARE AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS

00:29:29.987 --> 00:29:30.843
THERE ARE AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS 
WHO JAIL PEOPLE, PUNISH PEOPLE

00:29:30.854 --> 00:29:31.854
WHO JAIL PEOPLE, PUNISH PEOPLE 
FOR WHAT THEY PUBLISH, WHAT

00:29:31.855 --> 00:29:32.912
FOR WHAT THEY PUBLISH, WHAT 
THEY PROTEST ABOUT, FOR WHAT

00:29:32.923 --> 00:29:38.351
THEY PROTEST ABOUT, FOR WHAT 
THEY POST ONLINE, PRIVATE

00:29:38.362 --> 00:29:47.803
THEY POST ONLINE, PRIVATE 
CITIZENS, IT’S A SLIPPERY SLOPE

00:29:47.838 --> 00:29:49.295
CITIZENS, IT’S A SLIPPERY SLOPE 
AND WE ARE ON THAT PATH AND

00:29:49.306 --> 00:29:50.106
AND WE ARE ON THAT PATH AND 
IT’S A DANGEROUS TIME.

00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:51.140
IT’S A DANGEROUS TIME. 
>> TYLER, YOU HAVE WRITTEN

00:29:51.141 --> 00:29:52.164
>> TYLER, YOU HAVE WRITTEN 
ABOUT THE CONTRAST BETWEEN HOW

00:29:52.175 --> 00:29:52.975
ABOUT THE CONTRAST BETWEEN HOW 
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FORMER

00:29:52.976 --> 00:29:53.809
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FORMER 
PRESIDENT OBAMA ARE RESPONDING

00:29:53.844 --> 00:29:55.044
PRESIDENT OBAMA ARE RESPONDING 
TO THIS MOMENT, WHERE DO YOU

00:29:55.045 --> 00:29:55.835
TO THIS MOMENT, WHERE DO YOU 
SEE THIS DEBATE GOING?

00:29:55.846 --> 00:29:56.869
SEE THIS DEBATE GOING? 
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FULLY

00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:57.680
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FULLY 
DISPENSED WITH THE BIPARTISAN

00:29:57.681 --> 00:29:58.714
DISPENSED WITH THE BIPARTISAN 
TRADITION OF USING MOMENTS OF

00:29:58.749 --> 00:29:59.749
TRADITION OF USING MOMENTS OF 
NATIONAL TRAGEDY TO TRY AND

00:29:59.750 --> 00:30:00.540
NATIONAL TRAGEDY TO TRY AND 
BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER.

00:30:00.551 --> 00:30:01.374
BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER. 
THINK BILL CLINTON AFTER

00:30:01.385 --> 00:30:02.318
THINK BILL CLINTON AFTER 
OAKLAND CITY, GEORGE BUSH AFTER

00:30:02.352 --> 00:30:04.210
OAKLAND CITY, GEORGE BUSH AFTER 
9/11, OBAMA AFTER GABBY

00:30:04.221 --> 00:30:05.245
9/11, OBAMA AFTER GABBY 
GIFFORDS WAS SHOT OR SINGING

00:30:05.256 --> 00:30:06.045
GIFFORDS WAS SHOT OR SINGING 
AMAZING GRACE AFTER CHARLESTON.

00:30:06.056 --> 00:30:07.256
AMAZING GRACE AFTER CHARLESTON. 
TRUMP IS USING THIS MOMENT TO

00:30:07.257 --> 00:30:09.949
TRUMP IS USING THIS MOMENT TO 
TRY TO GO AFTER POLITICAL

00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:15.364
TRY TO GO AFTER POLITICAL 
OPPONENTS, INCREASE HIS

00:30:15.365 --> 00:30:18.891
OPPONENTS, INCREASE HIS 
CRACKDOWN ON POLITICAL RIVALS

00:30:18.902 --> 00:30:20.369
CRACKDOWN ON POLITICAL RIVALS 
AND SO, I THINK WE ONLY SEE

00:30:20.371 --> 00:30:20.861
AND SO, I THINK WE ONLY SEE 
THIS ESCALATING.

00:30:20.872 --> 00:30:21.761
THIS ESCALATING. 
THIS RHETORIC THAT WE ARE

00:30:21.772 --> 00:30:23.640
THIS RHETORIC THAT WE ARE 
SEEING NOT JUST FROM HIM BUT

00:30:23.674 --> 00:30:24.497
SEEING NOT JUST FROM HIM BUT 
FROM HIS ADMINISTRATION, THE

00:30:24.508 --> 00:30:24.998
FROM HIS ADMINISTRATION, THE 
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

00:30:25.009 --> 00:30:30.170
ATTORNEY GENERAL. 
IT’S ONLY ESCALATING FROM HERE.

00:30:30.181 --> 00:30:31.447
IT’S ONLY ESCALATING FROM HERE. 
AND IT’S THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE OF

00:30:31.482 --> 00:30:34.341
AND IT’S THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE OF 
WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE.

00:30:34.352 --> 00:30:39.622
WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE. 
>> WE DID SEE THIS POST ON

00:30:39.623 --> 00:30:43.092
>> WE DID SEE THIS POST ON 
SATURDAY IN WHICH THE PRESIDENT

00:30:43.093 --> 00:30:43.926
SATURDAY IN WHICH THE PRESIDENT 
DIRECTED HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL

00:30:43.928 --> 00:30:46.763
DIRECTED HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL 
TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL

00:30:46.797 --> 00:30:47.163
TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL 
RIVALS.

00:30:47.164 --> 00:31:01.167
RIVALS. 
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT AND IS

00:31:01.178 --> 00:31:02.178
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT AND IS 
THAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN

00:31:02.213 --> 00:31:02.636
THAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN 
ESCALATION?

00:31:02.647 --> 00:31:03.813
ESCALATION? 
>> I DON’T THINK ANY OF US

00:31:03.814 --> 00:31:04.604
>> I DON’T THINK ANY OF US 
AROUND THE TABLE QUESTION

00:31:04.615 --> 00:31:05.839
AROUND THE TABLE QUESTION 
WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTS THOSE

00:31:05.850 --> 00:31:06.640
WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTS THOSE 
PROSECUTIONS BUT THE MOST

00:31:06.651 --> 00:31:07.708
PROSECUTIONS BUT THE MOST 
INTERESTING THING IS HE FEELS

00:31:07.719 --> 00:31:08.785
INTERESTING THING IS HE FEELS 
SO COMFORTABLE SAYING IT SO

00:31:08.819 --> 00:31:09.575
SO COMFORTABLE SAYING IT SO 
OPENLY AT THIS POINT.

00:31:09.586 --> 00:31:10.754
OPENLY AT THIS POINT. 
BUT THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO

00:31:10.755 --> 00:31:12.222
BUT THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO 
SAID HE WAS GOING TO AND THE

00:31:12.223 --> 00:31:16.093
SAID HE WAS GOING TO AND THE 
POLITICIZATION OF THE

00:31:16.127 --> 00:31:16.950
POLITICIZATION OF THE 
GOVERNMENT AND CLEARLY, THAT’S

00:31:16.961 --> 00:31:17.551
GOVERNMENT AND CLEARLY, THAT’S 
OUT THE WINDOW.

00:31:17.562 --> 00:31:18.562
OUT THE WINDOW. 
HE’S GOING A STEP FURTHER.

00:31:18.563 --> 00:31:19.596
HE’S GOING A STEP FURTHER. 
HE’S PUTTING IN PLACE ACTUAL

00:31:19.630 --> 00:31:20.420
HE’S PUTTING IN PLACE ACTUAL 
PROSECUTORS TO CARRY THOSE

00:31:20.431 --> 00:31:20.854
PROSECUTORS TO CARRY THOSE 
THINGS OUT.

00:31:20.865 --> 00:31:25.502
THINGS OUT. 
THAT’S ALWAYS BEEN THE GUARD

00:31:25.536 --> 00:31:25.859
THAT’S ALWAYS BEEN THE GUARD 
RAILS.

00:31:25.870 --> 00:31:26.870
RAILS. 
WE HAVE SYSTEMS, PEOPLE HAVE TO

00:31:26.871 --> 00:31:28.171
WE HAVE SYSTEMS, PEOPLE HAVE TO 
GO ALONG WITH HIM DOING THESE

00:31:28.172 --> 00:31:34.310
GO ALONG WITH HIM DOING THESE 
THINGS AND THESE PEOPLE HAVEN’T

00:31:34.345 --> 00:31:35.345
THINGS AND THESE PEOPLE HAVEN’T 
SUFFICIENTLY FOR HIM SO NOW

00:31:35.346 --> 00:31:36.303
SUFFICIENTLY FOR HIM SO NOW 
HE’S CHANGING PERSONNEL TO GET

00:31:36.314 --> 00:31:36.946
HE’S CHANGING PERSONNEL TO GET 
THERE AS WELL.

00:31:36.948 --> 00:31:38.372
THERE AS WELL. 
>> ADRIAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF

00:31:38.383 --> 00:31:39.216
>> ADRIAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF 
HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD RESPOND.

00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:43.276
HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD RESPOND. 
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY?

00:31:43.287 --> 00:31:49.726
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY? 
>> WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF POWER

00:31:49.761 --> 00:32:00.494
>> WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF POWER 
RIGHT NOW.

00:32:00.505 --> 00:32:01.472
RIGHT NOW. 
GOVERNOR SHAPIRO HAD A REALLY

00:32:01.473 --> 00:32:02.540
GOVERNOR SHAPIRO HAD A REALLY 
GOOD RESPONSE WHICH IS, WE

00:32:02.574 --> 00:32:03.774
GOOD RESPONSE WHICH IS, WE 
SHOULD ALL FEAR THIS AND BE

00:32:03.775 --> 00:32:04.265
SHOULD ALL FEAR THIS AND BE 
VERY CONCERNED.

00:32:04.276 --> 00:32:05.398
VERY CONCERNED. 
THIS IS PART OF BEING AN

00:32:05.409 --> 00:32:06.243
THIS IS PART OF BEING AN 
AMERICAN, HAVING OUR FIRST

00:32:06.277 --> 00:32:07.234
AMERICAN, HAVING OUR FIRST 
AMENDMENT RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF

00:32:07.245 --> 00:32:08.002
AMENDMENT RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF 
SPEECH PROTECTED BY THE

00:32:08.013 --> 00:32:08.445
SPEECH PROTECTED BY THE 
CONSTITUTION.

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:09.270
CONSTITUTION. 
WHEN TRUMP IS ACTUALLY GOING

00:32:09.281 --> 00:32:10.303
WHEN TRUMP IS ACTUALLY GOING 
AFTER SOME OF THE MOST

00:32:10.314 --> 00:32:11.281
AFTER SOME OF THE MOST 
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE

00:32:11.282 --> 00:32:12.506
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE 
IN OUR COUNTRY, TO THE LEVEL

00:32:12.517 --> 00:32:16.620
IN OUR COUNTRY, TO THE LEVEL 
THAT HE IS, BY THE WAY, WE ARE

00:32:16.621 --> 00:32:17.654
THAT HE IS, BY THE WAY, WE ARE 
EIGHT MONTHS OF HIS PRESIDENCY,

00:32:17.689 --> 00:32:18.145
EIGHT MONTHS OF HIS PRESIDENCY, 
WHAT’S NEXT?

00:32:18.156 --> 00:32:19.457
WHAT’S NEXT? 
TO YOUR POINT, IT IS A SLIPPERY

00:32:19.491 --> 00:32:20.514
TO YOUR POINT, IT IS A SLIPPERY 
SLOPE THAT HE’S GOING DOWN.

00:32:20.525 --> 00:32:21.916
SLOPE THAT HE’S GOING DOWN. 
I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO

00:32:21.927 --> 00:32:23.161
I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO 
MAKE THAT CONTRAST AND MAKE IT

00:32:23.194 --> 00:32:24.394
MAKE THAT CONTRAST AND MAKE IT 
CLEAR, THIS IS NOT JUST WHAT

00:32:24.396 --> 00:32:25.419
CLEAR, THIS IS NOT JUST WHAT 
DEMOCRATS DON’T STAND FOR BUT

00:32:25.430 --> 00:32:26.621
DEMOCRATS DON’T STAND FOR BUT 
THERE ARE A LOT OF AMERICANS

00:32:26.632 --> 00:32:27.831
THERE ARE A LOT OF AMERICANS 
WERE SAYING THIS, MANY OF WHOM

00:32:27.866 --> 00:32:41.235
WERE SAYING THIS, MANY OF WHOM 
VOTED FOR TRUMP.

00:32:41.246 --> 00:32:42.637
VOTED FOR TRUMP. 
>> TYLER, ALL OF THIS COMES AS

00:32:42.648 --> 00:32:43.847
>> TYLER, ALL OF THIS COMES AS 
WE ARE WATCHING THE RELEASE OF

00:32:43.849 --> 00:32:44.682
WE ARE WATCHING THE RELEASE OF 
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, HARRIS’S

00:32:44.716 --> 00:32:45.015
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, HARRIS’S 
BOOK.

00:32:45.016 --> 00:32:45.873
BOOK. 
SHE TOOK THIS APPROACH OF

00:32:45.884 --> 00:32:46.908
SHE TOOK THIS APPROACH OF 
NAMING NAMES IN THIS BOOK.

00:32:46.919 --> 00:32:48.342
NAMING NAMES IN THIS BOOK. 
I TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT

00:32:48.353 --> 00:32:49.019
I TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT 
WITH GOVERNOR SHAPIRO.

00:32:49.021 --> 00:32:50.188
WITH GOVERNOR SHAPIRO. 
WHAT HAS THE REACTION BEEN SO

00:32:50.222 --> 00:32:50.521
WHAT HAS THE REACTION BEEN SO 
FAR?

00:32:50.522 --> 00:32:51.412
FAR? 
>> THERE’S BEEN SURPRISE THAT

00:32:51.423 --> 00:32:52.480
>> THERE’S BEEN SURPRISE THAT 
THE BOOK IS SO BACKWARD

00:32:52.491 --> 00:32:52.823
THE BOOK IS SO BACKWARD 
LOOKING.

00:32:52.824 --> 00:32:53.924
LOOKING. 
IT’S A LOT OF KAMALA HARRIS

00:32:53.925 --> 00:32:54.591
IT’S A LOT OF KAMALA HARRIS 
RELITIGATING EXACTLY WHAT

00:32:54.626 --> 00:32:55.749
RELITIGATING EXACTLY WHAT 
OCCURRED OVER THE COURSE OF THE

00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:56.126
OCCURRED OVER THE COURSE OF THE 
CAMPAIGN.

00:32:56.128 --> 00:32:57.328
CAMPAIGN. 
AND I THINK THE HARRIS AIDS SAY

00:32:57.329 --> 00:32:58.162
AND I THINK THE HARRIS AIDS SAY 
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT

00:32:58.163 --> 00:33:00.021
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT 
WANTED TO ADD HER VOICE TO THE

00:33:00.032 --> 00:33:00.498
WANTED TO ADD HER VOICE TO THE 
CONVERSATION.

00:33:00.532 --> 00:33:08.362
CONVERSATION. 
BUT IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT

00:33:08.373 --> 00:33:09.207
BUT IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT 
HER POLITICAL FUTURE, OBVIOUSLY

00:33:09.241 --> 00:33:10.441
HER POLITICAL FUTURE, OBVIOUSLY 
SHE CHOSE NOT TO RUN FOR

00:33:10.442 --> 00:33:11.032
SHE CHOSE NOT TO RUN FOR 
CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR.

00:33:11.043 --> 00:33:16.471
CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR. 
SHE POTENTIALLY MAY RUN FOR

00:33:16.482 --> 00:33:34.065
SHE POTENTIALLY MAY RUN FOR 
2028.

00:33:34.066 --> 00:33:35.366
2028. 
BUT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE

00:33:35.367 --> 00:33:36.567
BUT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE 
LOOKING FOR A LEADER IN THIS

00:33:36.569 --> 00:33:36.868
LOOKING FOR A LEADER IN THIS 
ONE.

00:33:36.869 --> 00:33:38.026
ONE. 
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A PATH

00:33:38.037 --> 00:33:38.960
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A PATH 
FORWARD, AND SHE DOES NOT

00:33:38.971 --> 00:33:40.238
FORWARD, AND SHE DOES NOT 
APPEAR TO BE LAYING OUT WHAT

00:33:40.272 --> 00:33:41.672
APPEAR TO BE LAYING OUT WHAT 
THAT CASE MAY BE AND THAT IS

00:33:41.674 --> 00:33:42.464
THAT CASE MAY BE AND THAT IS 
CAUSING AGITATION AMONG PARTY

00:33:42.475 --> 00:33:42.830
CAUSING AGITATION AMONG PARTY 
LEADERS.

00:33:42.841 --> 00:33:43.865
LEADERS. 
>> SPEAKING OF HARRIS AIDS, YOU

00:33:43.876 --> 00:33:44.943
>> SPEAKING OF HARRIS AIDS, YOU 
WORKED ON THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN,

00:33:44.977 --> 00:33:46.377
WORKED ON THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN, 
GIVE US YOUR TAKE, HOW IS THIS

00:33:46.378 --> 00:33:47.378
GIVE US YOUR TAKE, HOW IS THIS 
GOING OVER INSIDE THE PARTY.

00:33:47.379 --> 00:33:49.036
GOING OVER INSIDE THE PARTY. 
>> I JUST GOT A COPY OF THE

00:33:49.047 --> 00:33:49.313
>> I JUST GOT A COPY OF THE 
BOOK.

00:33:49.315 --> 00:33:50.415
BOOK. 
I THINK SHE HAS MORE THAN

00:33:50.416 --> 00:33:51.616
I THINK SHE HAS MORE THAN 
EARNED HER RIGHT TO TELL HER

00:33:51.617 --> 00:33:52.650
EARNED HER RIGHT TO TELL HER 
STORY IN HER OWN WORDS.

00:33:52.685 --> 00:33:53.685
STORY IN HER OWN WORDS. 
TYLER WROTE AN EXCELLENT BOOK

00:33:53.686 --> 00:33:55.110
TYLER WROTE AN EXCELLENT BOOK 
BUT SHE DESERVES TO BE ABLE TO

00:33:55.121 --> 00:33:55.677
BUT SHE DESERVES TO BE ABLE TO 
SHARE HER STORY.

00:33:55.688 --> 00:33:57.112
SHARE HER STORY. 
I WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN, I LIVED

00:33:57.123 --> 00:33:58.323
I WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN, I LIVED 
AND BREATHED THE CHAOS BUT I

00:33:58.324 --> 00:33:59.758
AND BREATHED THE CHAOS BUT I 
THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP

00:33:59.792 --> 00:34:00.992
THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP 
BACK AND LET HER TALK ABOUT

00:34:00.993 --> 00:34:02.293
BACK AND LET HER TALK ABOUT 
WHAT SHE EXPERIENCED IN HER OWN

00:34:02.294 --> 00:34:02.617
WHAT SHE EXPERIENCED IN HER OWN 
WORDS.

00:34:02.628 --> 00:34:03.662
WORDS. 
AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE

00:34:03.696 --> 00:34:04.896
AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE 
LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD AS A

00:34:04.897 --> 00:34:05.220
LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD AS A 
PARTY.

00:34:05.231 --> 00:34:06.721
PARTY. 
I HOPE TO BE A PART OF THAT

00:34:06.732 --> 00:34:07.198
I HOPE TO BE A PART OF THAT 
PATH FORWARD.

00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:08.166
PATH FORWARD. 
I THINK PEOPLE LIKE GOVERNOR

00:34:08.200 --> 00:34:09.600
I THINK PEOPLE LIKE GOVERNOR 
SHAPIRO WILL BE A PART OF THAT.

00:34:09.602 --> 00:34:11.059
SHAPIRO WILL BE A PART OF THAT. 
I THINK THERE IS -- THERE ARE

00:34:11.070 --> 00:34:16.675
I THINK THERE IS -- THERE ARE 
DEMOCRATS WHO WANT THAT, TOO.

00:34:16.709 --> 00:34:26.875
DEMOCRATS WHO WANT THAT, TOO. 
>> THIS IS WHAT DAVID AXELROD

00:34:26.886 --> 00:34:27.886
>> THIS IS WHAT DAVID AXELROD 
TOLD POLITICO, IF THERE’S A

00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:28.877
TOLD POLITICO, IF THERE’S A 
POLITICAL STRATEGY HERE, IT’S A

00:34:28.888 --> 00:34:29.321
POLITICAL STRATEGY HERE, IT’S A 
BAD ONE.

00:34:29.322 --> 00:34:30.355
BAD ONE. 
THERE’S AN AWFUL LOT OF

00:34:30.356 --> 00:34:31.146
THERE’S AN AWFUL LOT OF 
GRIEVANCES AND FINGER-POINTING

00:34:31.157 --> 00:34:31.990
GRIEVANCES AND FINGER-POINTING 
THAT REALLY DOESN’T SERVE A

00:34:32.024 --> 00:34:32.514
THAT REALLY DOESN’T SERVE A 
POLITICAL AGENDA.

00:34:32.525 --> 00:34:33.625
POLITICAL AGENDA. 
COULD THIS HELP EMBOLDEN HER OR

00:34:33.626 --> 00:34:34.649
COULD THIS HELP EMBOLDEN HER OR 
IS SHE ALIENATING THE PEOPLE

00:34:34.660 --> 00:34:35.660
IS SHE ALIENATING THE PEOPLE 
WHO SUPPORTED HER DURING THE

00:34:35.661 --> 00:34:36.060
WHO SUPPORTED HER DURING THE 
CAMPAIGN?

00:34:36.062 --> 00:34:36.695
CAMPAIGN? 
>> IT’S STILL EARLY.

00:34:36.729 --> 00:34:38.153
>> IT’S STILL EARLY. 
IT’S 2025, 2028 IS A LONG WAY

00:34:38.164 --> 00:34:38.430
IT’S 2025, 2028 IS A LONG WAY 
OFF.

00:34:38.464 --> 00:34:49.164
OFF. 
CLEARLY THERE’S INTENTION HERE.

00:34:49.175 --> 00:34:50.309
CLEARLY THERE’S INTENTION HERE. 
SHE WANTED TO SET THE NARRATIVE

00:34:50.343 --> 00:34:51.400
SHE WANTED TO SET THE NARRATIVE 
STRAIGHT, TO HAVE HER VERSION

00:34:51.411 --> 00:34:53.044
STRAIGHT, TO HAVE HER VERSION 
OF THE STORY OUT THERE IN A WAY

00:34:53.046 --> 00:34:54.246
OF THE STORY OUT THERE IN A WAY 
THAT SHE CLEARLY FELT SHE WAS

00:34:54.247 --> 00:34:55.471
THAT SHE CLEARLY FELT SHE WAS 
TOO CONSTRAINED TO BE ABLE TO

00:34:55.482 --> 00:34:56.915
TOO CONSTRAINED TO BE ABLE TO 
DO WHILE SHE WAS TRYING TO RUN

00:34:56.950 --> 00:34:57.973
DO WHILE SHE WAS TRYING TO RUN 
THE SHORTEST CAMPAIGN IN MODERN

00:34:57.984 --> 00:34:58.784
THE SHORTEST CAMPAIGN IN MODERN 
PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY AND TRYING

00:34:58.818 --> 00:35:09.284
PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY AND TRYING 
TO FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING, BUT

00:35:09.295 --> 00:35:10.295
TO FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING, BUT 
THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING WE

00:35:10.296 --> 00:35:11.496
THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING WE 
SHOULD NOTE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW,

00:35:11.498 --> 00:35:12.455
SHOULD NOTE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW, 
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRITICISMS

00:35:12.466 --> 00:35:13.889
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRITICISMS 
THAT SHE FACED WAS THAT SHE WAS

00:35:13.900 --> 00:35:14.957
THAT SHE FACED WAS THAT SHE WAS 
TO BUTTONED UP AND TOO

00:35:14.968 --> 00:35:15.334
TO BUTTONED UP AND TOO 
CAUTIOUS.

00:35:15.368 --> 00:35:16.191
CAUTIOUS. 
YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHERE SHE

00:35:16.202 --> 00:35:16.492
YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHERE SHE 
STOOD.

00:35:16.503 --> 00:35:17.436
STOOD. 
THIS IS CLEARLY BREAKING FROM

00:35:17.470 --> 00:35:17.793
THIS IS CLEARLY BREAKING FROM 
THAT.

00:35:17.804 --> 00:35:18.638
THAT. 
>> THAT WAS THE CRITICISM

00:35:18.672 --> 00:35:22.365
>> THAT WAS THE CRITICISM 
DURING THE CAMPAIGN.

00:35:22.376 --> 00:35:23.575
DURING THE CAMPAIGN. 
SHE DIDN’T BREAK WITH BIDEN BUT

00:35:23.576 --> 00:35:24.433
SHE DIDN’T BREAK WITH BIDEN BUT 
SHE’S DOING IT NOW.

00:35:24.444 --> 00:35:25.845
SHE’S DOING IT NOW. 
>> SURE, IF SHE HAD BROKEN WITH

00:35:25.879 --> 00:35:26.936
>> SURE, IF SHE HAD BROKEN WITH 
BIDEN, MAYBE SHE WOULD HAVE

00:35:26.947 --> 00:35:27.346
BIDEN, MAYBE SHE WOULD HAVE 
DONE BETTER.

00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:28.503
DONE BETTER. 
AT THIS POINT, WHAT IS THE

00:35:28.514 --> 00:35:29.147
AT THIS POINT, WHAT IS THE 
POINT OF THIS?

00:35:29.182 --> 00:35:30.182
POINT OF THIS? 
THIS FEELS SO INCREDIBLY PETTY.

00:35:30.183 --> 00:35:31.340
THIS FEELS SO INCREDIBLY PETTY. 
IF THIS WAS HER COMEBACK STORY,

00:35:31.351 --> 00:35:32.375
IF THIS WAS HER COMEBACK STORY, 
I THINK SHE HAS FAILED.

00:35:32.386 --> 00:35:33.809
I THINK SHE HAS FAILED. 
I’M NOT A DEMOCRAT BUT I KNOW

00:35:33.820 --> 00:35:34.977
I’M NOT A DEMOCRAT BUT I KNOW 
THIS IS A MOMENT THEY ARE

00:35:34.988 --> 00:35:36.255
THIS IS A MOMENT THEY ARE 
LOOKING FOR A PATH FORWARD AND

00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:37.913
LOOKING FOR A PATH FORWARD AND 
ALL SHE IS DOING IS COMPLAINTS

00:35:37.924 --> 00:35:38.924
ALL SHE IS DOING IS COMPLAINTS 
AND EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY SHE

00:35:38.925 --> 00:35:39.358
AND EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY SHE 
DIDN’T WIN.

00:35:39.392 --> 00:35:40.392
DIDN’T WIN. 
LOOK NO FURTHER FOR JOSH

00:35:40.393 --> 00:35:42.217
LOOK NO FURTHER FOR JOSH 
SHAPIRO WHO WAS CLEAR THAT HE

00:35:42.228 --> 00:35:43.195
SHAPIRO WHO WAS CLEAR THAT HE 
CANNOT STAND WHAT SHE’S DONE

00:35:43.196 --> 00:35:51.036
CANNOT STAND WHAT SHE’S DONE 
AND THERE’S NO LOVE LOST THERE.

00:35:51.038 --> 00:35:51.728
AND THERE’S NO LOVE LOST THERE. 
>> GREAT CONVERSATION.

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:52.428
>> GREAT CONVERSATION. 
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

00:35:52.439 --> 00:35:53.372
THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
WHEN WE COME BACK, PRESIDENT

00:36:03.984 --> 00:36:08.921
>>> WELCOME BACK.

00:36:08.956 --> 00:36:20.723
>>> WELCOME BACK. 
PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIS STATE

00:36:20.734 --> 00:36:21.701
PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIS STATE 
VISIT TO THE UNITED KINGDOM

00:36:21.702 --> 00:36:22.759
VISIT TO THE UNITED KINGDOM 
THIS WEEK HOSTED BY KING

00:36:22.770 --> 00:36:23.603
THIS WEEK HOSTED BY KING 
CHARLES MARKED AN UNPRECEDENTED

00:36:23.604 --> 00:36:24.838
CHARLES MARKED AN UNPRECEDENTED 
SECOND STATE VISIT FOR A U.S.

00:36:24.872 --> 00:36:25.872
SECOND STATE VISIT FOR A U.S. 
PRESIDENT, MAKING HIM THE FIRST

00:36:25.873 --> 00:36:26.996
PRESIDENT, MAKING HIM THE FIRST 
IN MODERN TIMES TO RECEIVE A

00:36:27.007 --> 00:36:28.041
IN MODERN TIMES TO RECEIVE A 
SECOND INVITE AFTER HIS FIRST

00:36:28.075 --> 00:36:28.932
SECOND INVITE AFTER HIS FIRST 
STATE TRIP IN 2019.

00:36:28.943 --> 00:36:29.842
STATE TRIP IN 2019. 
BACK IN 1969, PRINCE PHILIP,

00:36:29.877 --> 00:36:30.800
BACK IN 1969, PRINCE PHILIP, 
HUSBAND OF QUEEN ELIZABETH,

00:36:30.811 --> 00:36:31.778
HUSBAND OF QUEEN ELIZABETH, 
JOINED MEET THE PRESS, TO

00:36:31.779 --> 00:36:37.617
JOINED MEET THE PRESS, TO 
DEFEND THE ROLE OF THE BRITISH

00:36:37.618 --> 00:36:40.954
DEFEND THE ROLE OF THE BRITISH 
MONARCH.

00:36:40.988 --> 00:36:42.188
MONARCH. 
>> HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT SAY

00:36:42.189 --> 00:36:43.212
>> HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT SAY 
THAT THE BRITISH MONARCHY GETS

00:36:43.223 --> 00:36:44.023
THAT THE BRITISH MONARCHY GETS 
ITS STRENGTH AND POPULARITY

00:36:44.024 --> 00:36:45.081
ITS STRENGTH AND POPULARITY 
BECAUSE IT HASN’T CHANGED AND

00:36:45.092 --> 00:36:46.516
BECAUSE IT HASN’T CHANGED AND 
THEN I’VE SEEN SOME THAT SET IT

00:36:46.527 --> 00:36:49.629
THEN I’VE SEEN SOME THAT SET IT 
GETS ITS STRENGTH AND POSSIBLY

00:36:49.630 --> 00:36:50.787
GETS ITS STRENGTH AND POSSIBLY 
HER BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED AND

00:36:50.798 --> 00:36:51.865
HER BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED AND 
BECOME MORE MODERN, WHAT IS

00:36:51.899 --> 00:36:52.756
BECOME MORE MODERN, WHAT IS 
YOUR OPINION ON THAT?

00:36:52.767 --> 00:36:53.523
YOUR OPINION ON THAT? 
>> DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE

00:36:53.534 --> 00:36:53.900
>> DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE 
CHANGED.

00:36:53.901 --> 00:36:57.594
CHANGED. 
I THINK, WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT

00:36:57.605 --> 00:36:58.572
I THINK, WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT 
HASN’T NOT CHANGE, THERE’S A

00:36:58.606 --> 00:36:59.329
HASN’T NOT CHANGE, THERE’S A 
SENSE OF CONTINUITY.

00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:00.273
SENSE OF CONTINUITY. 
YOU HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME

00:37:00.307 --> 00:37:03.966
YOU HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME 
PEOPLE AROUND ALL THE TIME, IT

00:37:03.977 --> 00:37:05.001
PEOPLE AROUND ALL THE TIME, IT 
GIVES THE COMMUNITY A SENSE

00:37:05.012 --> 00:37:05.778
GIVES THE COMMUNITY A SENSE 
THAT WHATEVER CHANGES THERE

00:37:05.813 --> 00:37:10.740
THAT WHATEVER CHANGES THERE 
ARE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

00:37:10.751 --> 00:37:11.184
ARE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 
DOESN’T CHANGE.

00:37:11.218 --> 00:37:12.942
DOESN’T CHANGE. 
>> WHEN WE COME BACK, MY "MEET

00:37:12.953 --> 00:37:14.120
brain supplement nationwide
     for over 10 years.

00:37:27.268 --> 00:37:27.834
>>> WELCOME BACK.

00:37:27.869 --> 00:37:31.972
>>> WELCOME BACK. 
MEL ROBBINS WILL BE THE FIRST

00:37:31.973 --> 00:37:33.197
MEL ROBBINS WILL BE THE FIRST 
TO TELL YOU, SHE’S NOT A

00:37:33.208 --> 00:37:34.341
TO TELL YOU, SHE’S NOT A 
THERAPIST, BUT SHE HAS MADE IT

00:37:34.375 --> 00:37:35.432
THERAPIST, BUT SHE HAS MADE IT 
HER MISSION TO GIVE PEOPLE

00:37:35.443 --> 00:37:47.077
HER MISSION TO GIVE PEOPLE 
SIMPLE, PRACTICAL TOOLS TO LIVE

00:37:47.088 --> 00:37:47.878
SIMPLE, PRACTICAL TOOLS TO LIVE 
BETTER LIVES WHETHER IT’S

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:48.679
BETTER LIVES WHETHER IT’S 
THROUGH THE MEL ROBBINS

00:37:48.690 --> 00:37:49.690
THROUGH THE MEL ROBBINS 
PODCAST, ONE OF THE MOST

00:37:49.691 --> 00:37:50.748
PODCAST, ONE OF THE MOST 
POPULAR PODCASTS IN THE WORLD,

00:37:50.759 --> 00:37:51.515
POPULAR PODCASTS IN THE WORLD, 
THROUGH VIRAL ONLINE VIDEOS,

00:37:51.526 --> 00:37:52.559
THROUGH VIRAL ONLINE VIDEOS, 
REACHING MORE THAN 35 MILLION

00:37:52.593 --> 00:37:52.992
REACHING MORE THAN 35 MILLION 
FOLLOWERS.

00:37:52.994 --> 00:37:53.817
FOLLOWERS. 
OR BEST-SELLING BOOKS LIKE THAT

00:37:53.828 --> 00:37:55.195
OR BEST-SELLING BOOKS LIKE THAT 
LET THEM THEORY, A DECEPTIVELY

00:37:55.196 --> 00:37:56.263
LET THEM THEORY, A DECEPTIVELY 
SIMPLE IDEA THAT IS CHANGING

00:37:56.297 --> 00:37:57.330
SIMPLE IDEA THAT IS CHANGING 
THE WAY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

00:37:57.332 --> 00:38:07.731
THE WAY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE 
THINK AND LIVE. I SAT DOWN WITH

00:38:07.742 --> 00:38:08.976
THINK AND LIVE. I SAT DOWN WITH 
MEL ROBBINS FOR A MEET THE

00:38:09.010 --> 00:38:09.800
MEL ROBBINS FOR A MEET THE 
MOMENT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW

00:38:09.811 --> 00:38:10.834
MOMENT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW 
SHE TURNED HER OWN DARKEST

00:38:10.845 --> 00:38:11.545
SHE TURNED HER OWN DARKEST 
MOMENT, INTO A SELF-HELP

00:38:11.546 --> 00:38:11.912
MOMENT, INTO A SELF-HELP 
MOVEMENT.

00:38:11.913 --> 00:38:13.280
MOVEMENT. 
>> HOW WOULD YOU COME IN THE

00:38:13.314 --> 00:38:15.138
>> HOW WOULD YOU COME IN THE 
MOST SIMPLE TERMS DESCRIBE WHAT

00:38:15.149 --> 00:38:16.149
MOST SIMPLE TERMS DESCRIBE WHAT 
THE LET THEM THEORY IS?

00:38:16.151 --> 00:38:16.984
THE LET THEM THEORY IS? 
>> IT’S VERY SIMPLE.

00:38:17.018 --> 00:38:19.476
>> IT’S VERY SIMPLE. 
IF YOU STOP TRYING TO CONTROL

00:38:19.487 --> 00:38:24.858
IF YOU STOP TRYING TO CONTROL 
AND CHANGE OTHER PEOPLE,

00:38:24.859 --> 00:38:29.496
AND CHANGE OTHER PEOPLE, 
SUDDENLY, YOU HAVE MORE TIME,

00:38:29.531 --> 00:38:30.755
SUDDENLY, YOU HAVE MORE TIME, 
ENERGY AND POWER IN YOUR OWN

00:38:30.766 --> 00:38:31.956
ENERGY AND POWER IN YOUR OWN 
LIFE TO FOCUS ON YOURSELF AND

00:38:31.967 --> 00:38:32.433
LIFE TO FOCUS ON YOURSELF AND 
IMPROVING IT.

00:38:32.434 --> 00:38:32.833
IMPROVING IT. 
THAT’S IT.

00:38:32.834 --> 00:38:34.425
THAT’S IT. 
RELEASING CONTROL, IT GIVES YOU

00:38:34.436 --> 00:38:35.469
RELEASING CONTROL, IT GIVES YOU 
SUCH CONTROL AND PEACE BACK.

00:38:35.470 --> 00:38:41.532
SUCH CONTROL AND PEACE BACK. 
>> IT’S NOT LET IT GO BECAUSE

00:38:41.543 --> 00:38:45.513
>> IT’S NOT LET IT GO BECAUSE 
YOU FOLLOW LET THEM WITH LET

00:38:45.547 --> 00:38:45.803
YOU FOLLOW LET THEM WITH LET 
ME.

00:38:45.814 --> 00:38:46.146
ME. 
>> YES.

00:38:46.148 --> 00:38:47.615
>> YES. 
SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THE

00:38:47.649 --> 00:38:48.849
SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THE 
THEORY, THE FIRST ONE IS LET

00:38:48.850 --> 00:38:49.850
THEORY, THE FIRST ONE IS LET 
THEM, AND THAT’S THE PART

00:38:49.851 --> 00:38:52.076
THEM, AND THAT’S THE PART 
EVERYBODY LOVES BECAUSE RIGHT

00:38:52.087 --> 00:38:53.053
EVERYBODY LOVES BECAUSE RIGHT 
NOW, LIFE IS SO OVERWHELMING

00:38:53.054 --> 00:38:54.278
NOW, LIFE IS SO OVERWHELMING 
AND LET’S FACE IT, OTHER PEOPLE

00:38:54.289 --> 00:38:55.322
AND LET’S FACE IT, OTHER PEOPLE 
ARE SUPER ANNOYING, THEY ARE

00:38:55.357 --> 00:38:55.880
ARE SUPER ANNOYING, THEY ARE 
VERY FRUSTRATING.

00:38:55.891 --> 00:38:56.990
VERY FRUSTRATING. 
YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR DAY

00:38:56.992 --> 00:38:57.992
YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR DAY 
FROM TRAFFIC AND YOUR GRIPPING

00:38:57.993 --> 00:39:03.788
FROM TRAFFIC AND YOUR GRIPPING 
THE WHEEL OR PEOPLE WALKING

00:39:03.799 --> 00:39:05.033
THE WHEEL OR PEOPLE WALKING 
SLOW OR TALKING CLOSE OR THE

00:39:05.067 --> 00:39:06.324
SLOW OR TALKING CLOSE OR THE 
MEETINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED AT

00:39:06.335 --> 00:39:07.334
MEETINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED AT 
6:00 ON A FRIDAY, THE GUILT

00:39:07.369 --> 00:39:11.596
6:00 ON A FRIDAY, THE GUILT 
TRIPS LIKE, IT IS GOING TO

00:39:11.607 --> 00:39:12.840
TRIPS LIKE, IT IS GOING TO 
DRAIN ALL OF YOUR ENERGY AND

00:39:12.874 --> 00:39:14.098
DRAIN ALL OF YOUR ENERGY AND 
OTHER PEOPLE ARE THE NUMBER ONE

00:39:14.109 --> 00:39:15.300
OTHER PEOPLE ARE THE NUMBER ONE 
CAUSE OF STRESS IN YOUR LIFE.

00:39:15.311 --> 00:39:16.343
CAUSE OF STRESS IN YOUR LIFE. 
BUT HERE’S WHAT THE THEORY

00:39:16.378 --> 00:39:17.602
BUT HERE’S WHAT THE THEORY 
TAUGHT ME, THEY DON’T HAVE TO

00:39:17.613 --> 00:39:17.845
TAUGHT ME, THEY DON’T HAVE TO 
BE.

00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.573
BE. 
SEE, YOU GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH

00:39:21.584 --> 00:39:22.473
SEE, YOU GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH 
SOMEBODY ELSE AFFECTS YOU.

00:39:22.484 --> 00:39:26.143
SOMEBODY ELSE AFFECTS YOU. 
YOU GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH

00:39:26.154 --> 00:39:26.954
YOU GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH 
BRAIN SPACE THEY TAKE.

00:39:26.989 --> 00:39:28.012
BRAIN SPACE THEY TAKE. 
YOU GET TO DECIDE WHETHER

00:39:28.023 --> 00:39:28.656
YOU GET TO DECIDE WHETHER 
TRAFFIC OR INCONSIDERATE

00:39:28.690 --> 00:39:29.413
TRAFFIC OR INCONSIDERATE 
BEHAVIOR OR THE HEADLINES

00:39:29.424 --> 00:39:29.957
BEHAVIOR OR THE HEADLINES 
STRESS YOU OUT.

00:39:29.992 --> 00:39:41.302
STRESS YOU OUT. 
AND SO, LET THEM, IS WHERE YOU

00:39:41.303 --> 00:39:42.303
AND SO, LET THEM, IS WHERE YOU 
RECOGNIZE AND YOU DON’T EVEN

00:39:42.304 --> 00:39:43.327
RECOGNIZE AND YOU DON’T EVEN 
HAVE TO READ THE BOOK.

00:39:43.338 --> 00:39:44.472
HAVE TO READ THE BOOK. 
YOU CAN START USING IT AFTER

00:39:44.506 --> 00:39:44.996
YOU CAN START USING IT AFTER 
THE CONVERSATION.

00:39:45.007 --> 00:39:46.207
THE CONVERSATION. 
THE MOMENT YOU ARE STRESSED OUT

00:39:46.208 --> 00:39:47.231
THE MOMENT YOU ARE STRESSED OUT 
OR FRUSTRATED, YOU JUST SAY,

00:39:47.242 --> 00:39:47.608
OR FRUSTRATED, YOU JUST SAY, 
LET THEM.

00:39:47.610 --> 00:39:48.777
LET THEM. 
AND THE SECOND YOU SAY, LET

00:39:48.811 --> 00:39:49.944
AND THE SECOND YOU SAY, LET 
THEM, YOU RECOGNIZE OKAY, I

00:39:49.945 --> 00:40:00.521
THEM, YOU RECOGNIZE OKAY, I 
CAN’T CONTROL THIS PERSON. SO

00:40:00.523 --> 00:40:02.147
CAN’T CONTROL THIS PERSON. SO 
WHY AM I GOING TO LET IT BOTHER

00:40:02.158 --> 00:40:03.748
WHY AM I GOING TO LET IT BOTHER 
ME AND YOU SAY, LET ME, AND LET

00:40:03.759 --> 00:40:05.193
ME AND YOU SAY, LET ME, AND LET 
ME IS WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR POWER

00:40:05.227 --> 00:40:06.250
ME IS WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR POWER 
BACK AND YOU REMIND YOURSELF.

00:40:06.261 --> 00:40:07.628
BACK AND YOU REMIND YOURSELF. 
AND THIS IS A VERY OLD IDEA,

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:09.030
AND THIS IS A VERY OLD IDEA, 
THE LET THEM THEORY IS A MODERN

00:40:09.031 --> 00:40:09.898
THE LET THEM THEORY IS A MODERN 
TAKE ON ANCIENT WISDOM.

00:40:09.932 --> 00:40:10.722
TAKE ON ANCIENT WISDOM. 
>> 41 YEARS OLD.

00:40:10.733 --> 00:40:11.990
>> 41 YEARS OLD. 
YOU SAY YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

00:40:12.001 --> 00:40:13.367
YOU SAY YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM. 
YOU WERE OUT OF A JOB, YOUR

00:40:13.369 --> 00:40:15.160
YOU WERE OUT OF A JOB, YOUR 
HUSBAND WAS STRUGGLING AS WELL,

00:40:15.171 --> 00:40:15.904
HUSBAND WAS STRUGGLING AS WELL, 
PROFESSIONALLY, YOU CANDIDLY

00:40:15.938 --> 00:40:16.861
PROFESSIONALLY, YOU CANDIDLY 
DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU

00:40:16.872 --> 00:40:18.039
DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU 
THINK YOU ARE DRINKING TOO MUCH

00:40:18.040 --> 00:40:24.312
THINK YOU ARE DRINKING TOO MUCH 
DURING THIS PERIOD, WHAT WAS

00:40:24.347 --> 00:40:25.838
DURING THIS PERIOD, WHAT WAS 
THAT MOMENT LIKE AND WHY WAS IT

00:40:25.849 --> 00:40:26.671
THAT MOMENT LIKE AND WHY WAS IT 
SO PIVOTAL FOR YOU?

00:40:26.682 --> 00:40:28.083
SO PIVOTAL FOR YOU? 
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IS THAT

00:40:28.117 --> 00:40:41.186
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IS THAT 
WHEN MY HUSBAND RESTAURANT

00:40:41.197 --> 00:40:42.197
WHEN MY HUSBAND RESTAURANT 
BUSINESS STARTED TO GO UNDER

00:40:42.198 --> 00:40:43.398
BUSINESS STARTED TO GO UNDER 
AND IT TOOK OUR LIFE SAVINGS,

00:40:43.399 --> 00:40:44.633
AND IT TOOK OUR LIFE SAVINGS, 
LIENS ON THE HOUSE, WE’VE GOT

00:40:44.667 --> 00:40:46.091
LIENS ON THE HOUSE, WE’VE GOT 
THREE KIDS UNDER THE AGE OF 10,

00:40:46.102 --> 00:40:47.269
THREE KIDS UNDER THE AGE OF 10, 
I LOSE MY JOB, I NEVER

00:40:47.270 --> 00:40:48.537
I LOSE MY JOB, I NEVER 
ENVISIONED A LIFE WHERE I WOULD

00:40:48.571 --> 00:40:49.771
ENVISIONED A LIFE WHERE I WOULD 
FACE BANKRUPTCY, I WOULD BE AN

00:40:49.772 --> 00:40:50.996
FACE BANKRUPTCY, I WOULD BE AN 
ALCOHOLIC, I WOULD BE ON THE

00:40:51.007 --> 00:40:52.240
ALCOHOLIC, I WOULD BE ON THE 
VERGE OF DIVORCE, THAT I WOULD

00:40:52.275 --> 00:40:53.275
VERGE OF DIVORCE, THAT I WOULD 
BE LOSING EVERYTHING I CARED

00:40:53.276 --> 00:40:53.599
BE LOSING EVERYTHING I CARED 
ABOUT.

00:40:53.610 --> 00:40:54.366
ABOUT. 
AND WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT

00:40:54.377 --> 00:40:55.310
AND WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT 
ROCK-BOTTOM MOMENTS IS YOU HIT

00:40:55.311 --> 00:40:56.168
ROCK-BOTTOM MOMENTS IS YOU HIT 
SOMETHING SOLID INSIDE YOU.

00:40:56.179 --> 00:40:57.212
SOMETHING SOLID INSIDE YOU. 
THAT’S HOW YOU KNOW IT’S

00:40:57.213 --> 00:40:57.579
THAT’S HOW YOU KNOW IT’S 
BOTTOM.

00:40:57.580 --> 00:40:58.847
BOTTOM. 
AND WHAT YOU HIT IS THE RESOLVE

00:40:58.881 --> 00:40:59.304
AND WHAT YOU HIT IS THE RESOLVE 
TO CHANGE.

00:40:59.315 --> 00:41:00.506
TO CHANGE. 
SEE, YOU CAN EITHER WAIT FOR

00:41:00.517 --> 00:41:01.473
SEE, YOU CAN EITHER WAIT FOR 
THINGS TO GET WORSE, BEFORE

00:41:01.484 --> 00:41:02.751
THINGS TO GET WORSE, BEFORE 
THEY GET BETTER, OR, YOU WAKE

00:41:02.785 --> 00:41:05.443
THEY GET BETTER, OR, YOU WAKE 
UP ONE DAY AND SAY, I DON’T

00:41:05.454 --> 00:41:06.421
UP ONE DAY AND SAY, I DON’T 
WANT THIS TO GET WORSE.

00:41:06.422 --> 00:41:16.021
WANT THIS TO GET WORSE. 
NOBODY IS COMING. AND IF THIS

00:41:16.032 --> 00:41:17.399
NOBODY IS COMING. AND IF THIS 
IS GOING TO CHANGE, I HAVE TO

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:18.090
IS GOING TO CHANGE, I HAVE TO 
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR

00:41:18.101 --> 00:41:18.767
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR 
CHANGING IT MYSELF.

00:41:18.802 --> 00:41:20.002
CHANGING IT MYSELF. 
AND SO WHAT THAT MOMENT TAUGHT

00:41:20.003 --> 00:41:21.003
AND SO WHAT THAT MOMENT TAUGHT 
ME BECAUSE THE SIMPLEST THINGS

00:41:21.004 --> 00:41:22.228
ME BECAUSE THE SIMPLEST THINGS 
WERE SO HARD, GETTING OUT OF

00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:30.245
WERE SO HARD, GETTING OUT OF 
BED, THE BILLS, I HADN’T OPENED

00:41:30.246 --> 00:41:31.203
BED, THE BILLS, I HADN’T OPENED 
MY BILLS IN SIX MONTHS.

00:41:31.214 --> 00:41:32.481
MY BILLS IN SIX MONTHS. 
I HADN’T ASKED FOR HELP, I

00:41:32.515 --> 00:41:33.338
I HADN’T ASKED FOR HELP, I 
HADN’T STOPPED DRINKING, I

00:41:33.349 --> 00:41:34.516
HADN’T STOPPED DRINKING, I 
HADN’T LOOKED FOR A JOB, I

00:41:34.517 --> 00:41:35.741
HADN’T LOOKED FOR A JOB, I 
WOULD WAKE UP EVERY MORNING AND

00:41:35.752 --> 00:41:37.219
WOULD WAKE UP EVERY MORNING AND 
LAY IN BED LIKE A HUMAN POT

00:41:37.220 --> 00:41:39.912
LAY IN BED LIKE A HUMAN POT 
ROAST, STARING AT THE CEILING

00:41:39.923 --> 00:41:41.290
ROAST, STARING AT THE CEILING 
GOING, I HATE MY LIFE, I HATE

00:41:41.324 --> 00:41:42.648
GOING, I HATE MY LIFE, I HATE 
MY HUSBAND, I HATE MYSELF AND

00:41:42.659 --> 00:41:46.729
MY HUSBAND, I HATE MYSELF AND 
IT FELT EASIER TO JUST AVOID

00:41:46.730 --> 00:41:48.097
IT FELT EASIER TO JUST AVOID 
THE THINGS THAT I KNEW I NEEDED

00:41:48.131 --> 00:41:48.587
THE THINGS THAT I KNEW I NEEDED 
TO DO.

00:41:48.598 --> 00:41:49.999
TO DO. 
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CORE

00:41:50.033 --> 00:41:53.459
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CORE 
THINGS I TRY TO TEACH, WHICH

00:41:53.470 --> 00:41:54.703
THINGS I TRY TO TEACH, WHICH 
IS, YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU

00:41:54.738 --> 00:41:55.328
IS, YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU 
NEED TO DO.

00:41:55.339 --> 00:41:57.563
NEED TO DO. 
AND IF YOU DON’T GO TO AI AND

00:41:57.574 --> 00:41:58.765
AND IF YOU DON’T GO TO AI AND 
JUST PUT IN YOUR PROBLEM AND

00:41:58.776 --> 00:42:00.242
JUST PUT IN YOUR PROBLEM AND 
IT’LL GIVE YOU 10 THINGS TO DO.

00:42:00.243 --> 00:42:01.667
IT’LL GIVE YOU 10 THINGS TO DO. 
THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE THAT

00:42:01.678 --> 00:42:06.415
THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE THAT 
YOU’RE GOING TO WAIT TO FEEL

00:42:06.450 --> 00:42:07.707
YOU’RE GOING TO WAIT TO FEEL 
READY AND I’VE GOT NEWS FOR

00:42:07.718 --> 00:42:08.517
READY AND I’VE GOT NEWS FOR 
YOU, MOTIVATION IS GARBAGE.

00:42:08.552 --> 00:42:09.752
YOU, MOTIVATION IS GARBAGE. 
IT’S NEVER THERE WHEN YOU NEED

00:42:09.753 --> 00:42:10.009
IT’S NEVER THERE WHEN YOU NEED 
IT.

00:42:10.020 --> 00:42:15.949
IT. 
YOU HAVE TO TEACH YOURSELF THIS

00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.994
YOU HAVE TO TEACH YOURSELF THIS 
LIFE-CHANGING SKILL. AND HERE’S

00:42:18.996 --> 00:42:19.662
LIFE-CHANGING SKILL. AND HERE’S 
THE LIFE-CHANGING SKILL.

00:42:19.663 --> 00:42:20.863
THE LIFE-CHANGING SKILL. 
YOU HAVE TO TRAIN YOURSELF TO

00:42:20.864 --> 00:42:22.031
YOU HAVE TO TRAIN YOURSELF TO 
DO THINGS THAT YOU DON’T FEEL

00:42:22.065 --> 00:42:22.488
DO THINGS THAT YOU DON’T FEEL 
LIKE DOING.

00:42:22.499 --> 00:42:29.896
LIKE DOING. 
AND FOR ME, THAT STARTED WITH

00:42:29.907 --> 00:42:31.164
AND FOR ME, THAT STARTED WITH 
TEACHING MYSELF TO GET OUT OF

00:42:31.175 --> 00:42:32.375
TEACHING MYSELF TO GET OUT OF 
BED ON THOSE MORNINGS THAT I

00:42:32.376 --> 00:42:32.999
BED ON THOSE MORNINGS THAT I 
DIDN’T WANT TO.

00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:34.210
DIDN’T WANT TO. 
>> WITH THE FIVE SECOND RULE?

00:42:34.211 --> 00:42:35.845
>> WITH THE FIVE SECOND RULE? 
>> YES, I WAS WATCHING TV AND I

00:42:35.879 --> 00:42:39.772
>> YES, I WAS WATCHING TV AND I 
SAW THIS ROCKETSHIP LAUNCH

00:42:39.783 --> 00:42:41.007
SAW THIS ROCKETSHIP LAUNCH 
ACROSS THE TV SCREEN AND THEY

00:42:41.018 --> 00:42:42.408
ACROSS THE TV SCREEN AND THEY 
GAVE ME AT THE TIME, A STUPID

00:42:42.419 --> 00:42:42.718
GAVE ME AT THE TIME, A STUPID 
IDEA.

00:42:42.720 --> 00:42:43.853
IDEA. 
I KNOW WHAT I’LL DO, TOMORROW,

00:42:43.887 --> 00:42:45.311
I KNOW WHAT I’LL DO, TOMORROW, 
I WILL LAUNCH MYSELF OUT OF BED

00:42:45.322 --> 00:42:46.556
I WILL LAUNCH MYSELF OUT OF BED 
LIKE A ROCKET AND MY DIGGING

00:42:46.590 --> 00:42:47.947
LIKE A ROCKET AND MY DIGGING 
WAS I WILL MOVE FAST ENOUGH SO

00:42:47.958 --> 00:42:49.392
WAS I WILL MOVE FAST ENOUGH SO 
I WILL BE IN THE BED WITH

00:42:49.393 --> 00:42:54.988
I WILL BE IN THE BED WITH 
ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION AND THE

00:42:54.999 --> 00:43:01.738
ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION AND THE 
OVERWHELMING PINS ME THERE.

00:43:01.739 --> 00:43:02.973
OVERWHELMING PINS ME THERE. 
AND THE VERY NEXT MORNING, THE

00:43:03.007 --> 00:43:04.030
AND THE VERY NEXT MORNING, THE 
ALARM RANG AND I STARTED

00:43:04.041 --> 00:43:05.008
ALARM RANG AND I STARTED 
REACHING FOR THE SNOOZE BUTTON.

00:43:05.009 --> 00:43:06.233
REACHING FOR THE SNOOZE BUTTON. 
SOMETHING I HAD DONE FOR SIX

00:43:06.244 --> 00:43:06.609
SOMETHING I HAD DONE FOR SIX 
MONTHS.

00:43:06.610 --> 00:43:08.034
MONTHS. 
I HIT THAT SUCKER 4 TO 5 TIMES

00:43:08.045 --> 00:43:09.345
I HIT THAT SUCKER 4 TO 5 TIMES 
A MORNING, THE KIDS WOULD MISS

00:43:09.346 --> 00:43:10.546
A MORNING, THE KIDS WOULD MISS 
THE BUS AND THEY WOULD BE

00:43:10.548 --> 00:43:11.181
THE BUS AND THEY WOULD BE 
WAKING ME UP.

00:43:11.215 --> 00:43:12.415
WAKING ME UP. 
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON I JUST

00:43:12.416 --> 00:43:14.817
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON I JUST 
STARTED COUNTING BACKWARDS, 3,

00:43:14.819 --> 00:43:16.276
STARTED COUNTING BACKWARDS, 3, 
2,1 AND I STOOD UP AND IT

00:43:16.287 --> 00:43:16.619
2,1 AND I STOOD UP AND IT 
WORKS.

00:43:16.620 --> 00:43:17.553
WORKS. 
AND WHAT’S INTERESTING IS, IT

00:43:17.555 --> 00:43:24.294
AND WHAT’S INTERESTING IS, IT 
FELT LIKE A VICTORY, AND IT

00:43:24.328 --> 00:43:24.627
FELT LIKE A VICTORY, AND IT 
WAS.

00:43:24.629 --> 00:43:25.929
WAS. 
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, IN SIX

00:43:25.930 --> 00:43:26.586
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, IN SIX 
MONTHS THAT THE

00:43:26.597 --> 00:43:27.397
MONTHS THAT THE 
PROCRASTINATION, THE ANXIETY,

00:43:27.431 --> 00:43:31.024
PROCRASTINATION, THE ANXIETY, 
THE FEAR, THE SHAME DIDN’T WIN,

00:43:31.035 --> 00:43:31.491
THE FEAR, THE SHAME DIDN’T WIN, 
I DID.

00:43:31.502 --> 00:43:32.669
I DID. 
THE BETTER PART OF ME DID.

00:43:32.670 --> 00:43:33.703
THE BETTER PART OF ME DID. 
AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT

00:43:33.738 --> 00:43:34.061
AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT 
THING.

00:43:34.072 --> 00:43:36.206
THING. 
FEAR KILLS ACTION BUT ACTION

00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:36.663
FEAR KILLS ACTION BUT ACTION 
KILLS FEAR.

00:43:36.674 --> 00:43:37.641
KILLS FEAR. 
AND TO ME, WHAT’S EXCITING

00:43:37.642 --> 00:43:39.042
AND TO ME, WHAT’S EXCITING 
ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE USING LET

00:43:39.043 --> 00:43:46.883
ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE USING LET 
THEM AND LET ME OR YOU ARE USING

00:43:46.884 --> 00:43:48.985
THEM AND LET ME OR YOU ARE USING
3, 2,1, OR ANY OF THE THINGS I

00:43:48.986 --> 00:43:50.220
3, 2,1, OR ANY OF THE THINGS I 
TALK ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR

00:43:50.254 --> 00:43:51.277
TALK ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR 
SHARE ON THE PODCAST, WHAT’S

00:43:51.288 --> 00:43:52.479
SHARE ON THE PODCAST, WHAT’S 
EXCITING IS THAT YOU ARE SO

00:43:52.490 --> 00:43:53.523
EXCITING IS THAT YOU ARE SO 
MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU

00:43:53.558 --> 00:43:53.881
MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU 
THINK.

00:43:53.892 --> 00:44:00.697
THINK. 
YOU HAVE SO MUCH CAPACITY TO

00:44:00.698 --> 00:44:01.698
YOU HAVE SO MUCH CAPACITY TO 
CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOR THE

00:44:01.699 --> 00:44:02.065
CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOR THE 
BETTER.

00:44:02.066 --> 00:44:03.166
BETTER. 
>> YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR PODCAST,

00:44:03.167 --> 00:44:05.135
>> YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR PODCAST, 
AND IT’S ONE OF THE MOST

00:44:05.169 --> 00:44:06.269
AND IT’S ONE OF THE MOST 
LISTENED TO PODCASTS IN THE

00:44:06.271 --> 00:44:11.732
LISTENED TO PODCASTS IN THE 
COUNTRY, THE WORLD --

00:44:11.743 --> 00:44:12.966
COUNTRY, THE WORLD -- 
>> I’M GOING TO CLAIM THAT.

00:44:12.977 --> 00:44:14.010
>> I’M GOING TO CLAIM THAT. 
>> TIME MAGAZINE SAID ABOUT

00:44:14.012 --> 00:44:15.446
>> TIME MAGAZINE SAID ABOUT 
YOU, QUOTE, WHAT ROBBINS SELLS

00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.303
YOU, QUOTE, WHAT ROBBINS SELLS 
IS NOT JUST ADVICE.

00:44:16.314 --> 00:44:20.508
IS NOT JUST ADVICE. 
SHE’S OFFERING HER LISTENERS A

00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:21.408
SHE’S OFFERING HER LISTENERS A 
REASON TO BELIEVE IN

00:44:21.419 --> 00:44:21.852
REASON TO BELIEVE IN 
THEMSELVES.

00:44:21.886 --> 00:44:23.643
THEMSELVES. 
IS THAT HOW YOU SEE YOUR WORK

00:44:23.654 --> 00:44:24.688
IS THAT HOW YOU SEE YOUR WORK 
AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING?

00:44:24.723 --> 00:44:39.060
AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING? 
>> YEAH, LIKE THE THING THAT

00:44:39.071 --> 00:44:40.037
>> YEAH, LIKE THE THING THAT 
STANDS IN PEOPLE’S WAY IS

00:44:40.038 --> 00:44:40.528
STANDS IN PEOPLE’S WAY IS 
DISCOURAGEMENT.

00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:41.471
DISCOURAGEMENT. 
THIS SENSE THAT IT IS HOPELESS.

00:44:41.506 --> 00:44:42.506
THIS SENSE THAT IT IS HOPELESS. 
THIS SENSE THAT THERE’S NOTHING

00:44:42.507 --> 00:44:43.130
THIS SENSE THAT THERE’S NOTHING 
I CAN DO.

00:44:43.141 --> 00:44:44.532
I CAN DO. 
THAT IS A LIE THAT YOU HAVE

00:44:44.543 --> 00:44:45.776
THAT IS A LIE THAT YOU HAVE 
EITHER BEEN SOLD, OR THAT YOU

00:44:45.810 --> 00:44:46.433
EITHER BEEN SOLD, OR THAT YOU 
ARE TELLING YOURSELF.

00:44:46.444 --> 00:44:47.611
ARE TELLING YOURSELF. 
AND, IF YOU HAVE ALL THE

00:44:47.612 --> 00:44:48.645
AND, IF YOU HAVE ALL THE 
INFORMATION LIKE AGAIN, IF YOU

00:44:48.647 --> 00:44:50.081
INFORMATION LIKE AGAIN, IF YOU 
CAN CREATE A LIST TODAY OF ALL

00:44:50.115 --> 00:44:51.539
CAN CREATE A LIST TODAY OF ALL 
THE THINGS YOU COULD DO TO RUIN

00:44:51.550 --> 00:44:59.523
THE THINGS YOU COULD DO TO RUIN 
YOUR LIFE, YOU CAN CREATE A

00:44:59.524 --> 00:45:00.748
YOUR LIFE, YOU CAN CREATE A 
LIST OF THE SIMPLE THINGS YOU

00:45:00.759 --> 00:45:01.759
LIST OF THE SIMPLE THINGS YOU 
CAN DO TO IMPROVE IT.

00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:02.760
CAN DO TO IMPROVE IT. 
>> IT’S EMOTIONAL FOR YOU.

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>> IT’S EMOTIONAL FOR YOU. 
IT’S PERSONAL.

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IT’S PERSONAL. 
>> IT’S VERY PERSONAL.

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>> IT’S VERY PERSONAL. 
WE HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 9 TO

00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:06.253
WE HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 9 TO 
11 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LISTEN

00:45:06.264 --> 00:45:08.532
11 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LISTEN 
TO THE SHOW EVERY WEEK.

00:45:08.533 --> 00:45:10.157
TO THE SHOW EVERY WEEK. 
AND WE ARE AT A MOMENT IN TIME

00:45:10.168 --> 00:45:11.368
AND WE ARE AT A MOMENT IN TIME 
WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TIME

00:45:11.370 --> 00:45:11.860
WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TIME 
FOR THEMSELVES.

00:45:11.871 --> 00:45:16.907
FOR THEMSELVES. 
SO I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY

00:45:16.942 --> 00:45:17.965
SO I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY 
THAT TEACHERS AND NURSES AND

00:45:17.976 --> 00:45:21.412
THAT TEACHERS AND NURSES AND 
EMTS AND YOU KNOW, ARE FINDING

00:45:21.446 --> 00:45:31.512
EMTS AND YOU KNOW, ARE FINDING 
TIME TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING

00:45:31.523 --> 00:45:32.523
TIME TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING 
THAT REMINDS YOU OF WHAT

00:45:32.558 --> 00:45:33.148
THAT REMINDS YOU OF WHAT 
MATTERS TO YOU.

00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:34.382
MATTERS TO YOU. 
THAT REMINDS YOU THAT YOU DO

00:45:34.393 --> 00:45:35.426
THAT REMINDS YOU THAT YOU DO 
HAVE POWER, THAT REMINDS YOU

00:45:35.461 --> 00:45:36.217
HAVE POWER, THAT REMINDS YOU 
THAT YOUR RELATIONSHIPS AND

00:45:36.228 --> 00:45:41.833
THAT YOUR RELATIONSHIPS AND 
BEING A GOOD FRIEND ARE

00:45:41.867 --> 00:45:44.025
BEING A GOOD FRIEND ARE 
IMPORTANT. AND THAT MATTERS.

00:45:44.036 --> 00:45:45.202
IMPORTANT. AND THAT MATTERS. 
>> YOU HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT

00:45:45.204 --> 00:45:46.037
>> YOU HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT 
YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SOCIAL

00:45:46.071 --> 00:45:46.394
YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SOCIAL 
MEDIA.

00:45:46.405 --> 00:45:47.472
MEDIA. 
YOU HAVE MORE THAN 35 MILLION

00:45:47.473 --> 00:45:52.877
YOU HAVE MORE THAN 35 MILLION 
FOLLOWERS WHICH IS JUST

00:45:52.878 --> 00:45:55.880
FOLLOWERS WHICH IS JUST 
REMARKABLE.

00:45:55.881 --> 00:45:57.372
REMARKABLE. 
>> YOU KNOW ONE OF THE BEST

00:45:57.383 --> 00:45:58.383
>> YOU KNOW ONE OF THE BEST 
THINGS ABOUT SUCCESS, IT CAME

00:45:58.384 --> 00:45:59.007
THINGS ABOUT SUCCESS, IT CAME 
LATE IN LIFE.

00:45:59.018 --> 00:46:00.175
LATE IN LIFE. 
WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE IN

00:46:00.186 --> 00:46:01.452
WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE IN 
YOUR 40s WHERE YOU ALMOST LOSE

00:46:01.487 --> 00:46:02.510
YOUR 40s WHERE YOU ALMOST LOSE 
EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS TO YOU,

00:46:02.521 --> 00:46:03.278
EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS TO YOU, 
YOU DON’T FORGET THAT.

00:46:03.289 --> 00:46:04.756
YOU DON’T FORGET THAT. 
I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO

00:46:04.790 --> 00:46:05.790
I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO 
HAVE GROCERIES SCANNED, AND I

00:46:05.791 --> 00:46:07.048
HAVE GROCERIES SCANNED, AND I 
KNOW THAT I DON’T HAVE MONEY.

00:46:07.059 --> 00:46:07.983
KNOW THAT I DON’T HAVE MONEY. 
AND I’M HOPING THERE’S SOME

00:46:07.994 --> 00:46:09.927
AND I’M HOPING THERE’S SOME 
GLITCH IN THE CHECK CARD AND

00:46:09.929 --> 00:46:10.962
GLITCH IN THE CHECK CARD AND 
SOMEHOW IT’S GOING TO GO

00:46:10.996 --> 00:46:11.352
SOMEHOW IT’S GOING TO GO 
THROUGH.

00:46:11.363 --> 00:46:11.863
THROUGH. 
AND IT DOESN’T.

00:46:11.897 --> 00:46:17.859
AND IT DOESN’T. 
AND YOU HAVE TO GRAB YOUR THREE

00:46:17.870 --> 00:46:20.429
AND YOU HAVE TO GRAB YOUR THREE 
KIDS, AND WALK OUT OF THERE.

00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:21.873
KIDS, AND WALK OUT OF THERE. 
THAT IS A MOMENT THAT YOU NEVER

00:46:21.907 --> 00:46:22.263
THAT IS A MOMENT THAT YOU NEVER 
FORGET.

00:46:22.274 --> 00:46:23.508
FORGET. 
SO I AM GRATEFUL THAT ALL OF

00:46:23.542 --> 00:46:36.644
SO I AM GRATEFUL THAT ALL OF 
THIS HAPPENED LATER, BECAUSE I

00:46:36.655 --> 00:46:37.455
THIS HAPPENED LATER, BECAUSE I 
HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHAT

00:46:37.456 --> 00:46:37.822
HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHAT 
MATTERS.

00:46:37.823 --> 00:46:39.123
MATTERS. 
AND WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS MY

00:46:39.125 --> 00:46:39.491
AND WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS MY 
FAMILY.

00:46:39.525 --> 00:46:40.548
FAMILY. 
WHAT MATTERS TO ME ARE MY

00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:41.559
WHAT MATTERS TO ME ARE MY 
FRIENDSHIPS, WHAT MATTERS TO ME

00:46:41.561 --> 00:46:43.128
FRIENDSHIPS, WHAT MATTERS TO ME 
AS I WAKE UP EVERY DAY, AND I’M

00:46:43.129 --> 00:46:44.653
AS I WAKE UP EVERY DAY, AND I’M 
PROUD OF THE PERSON THAT I AM.

00:46:44.664 --> 00:46:46.098
PROUD OF THE PERSON THAT I AM. 
AND I KNOW I’M DOING THE BEST

00:46:46.132 --> 00:46:50.192
AND I KNOW I’M DOING THE BEST 
THAT I CAN AND I’M FAST TO

00:46:50.203 --> 00:46:51.169
THAT I CAN AND I’M FAST TO 
APOLOGIZE WHEN I SCREW THINGS

00:46:51.170 --> 00:46:51.426
APOLOGIZE WHEN I SCREW THINGS 
UP.

00:46:51.437 --> 00:46:52.837
UP. 
AND MY HOPE IS THAT BY SHARING

00:46:52.839 --> 00:46:54.039
AND MY HOPE IS THAT BY SHARING 
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I’M

00:46:54.040 --> 00:46:54.830
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I’M 
LEARNING, SHARING OPENLY ABOUT

00:46:54.841 --> 00:46:56.108
LEARNING, SHARING OPENLY ABOUT 
THE MISTAKES THAT I’VE MADE AS

00:46:56.142 --> 00:46:57.542
THE MISTAKES THAT I’VE MADE AS 
A PARENT, AS A SPOUSE, AS A

00:46:57.543 --> 00:46:58.743
A PARENT, AS A SPOUSE, AS A 
HUMAN BEING, IF I CAN SAVE

00:46:58.745 --> 00:46:59.768
HUMAN BEING, IF I CAN SAVE 
ANYBODY ELSE THE HEARTACHE THAT

00:46:59.779 --> 00:47:00.779
ANYBODY ELSE THE HEARTACHE THAT 
I CAUSED MYSELF AND OTHER

00:47:00.780 --> 00:47:01.780
I CAUSED MYSELF AND OTHER 
PEOPLE, I JUST DIDN’T KNOW.

00:47:01.781 --> 00:47:03.315
PEOPLE, I JUST DIDN’T KNOW. 
I DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO DO BETTER.

00:47:03.349 --> 00:47:04.773
I DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO DO BETTER. 
THAT TO ME IS A LIFE WELL

00:47:04.784 --> 00:47:05.074
THAT TO ME IS A LIFE WELL 
LIVED.

00:47:05.085 --> 00:47:07.819
LIVED. 
>> MEL ROBBINS BOOK, THE LET

00:47:07.854 --> 00:47:08.811
>> MEL ROBBINS BOOK, THE LET 
THEM THEORY IS AVAILABLE NOW.

00:47:08.822 --> 00:47:10.088
THEM THEORY IS AVAILABLE NOW. 
YOU CAN WATCH MY FULL INTERVIEW

00:47:10.123 --> 00:47:22.391
YOU CAN WATCH MY FULL INTERVIEW 
WITH MEL ROBBINS AT

00:47:22.402 --> 00:47:22.891
WITH MEL ROBBINS AT 
MEETTHEPRESS.COM.

00:47:22.902 --> 00:47:23.759
MEETTHEPRESS.COM. 
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING

00:47:23.770 --> 00:47:25.194
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING 
AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK

00:47:25.205 --> 00:47:26.405
AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK 
BECAUSE IF IT’S SUNDAY, IT IS

00:47:26.406 --> 00:47:30.376
BECAUSE IF IT’S SUNDAY, IT IS 
ME TO THE PRESS.
