WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.766 MEET THE PRESS WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. 00:00:09.777 --> 00:00:12.102 YOUR PODCASTS. >> IF IT’S FRIDAY, THE FIGHT 00:00:12.113 --> 00:00:15.381 >> IF IT’S FRIDAY, THE FIGHT OVER FREE SPEECH HEATS UP. 00:00:15.383 --> 00:00:15.906 OVER FREE SPEECH HEATS UP. FOLLOWING CHARLIE KIRK’S 00:00:15.917 --> 00:00:17.151 FOLLOWING CHARLIE KIRK’S ASSASSINATION. I JUST SPOKE TO 00:00:17.185 --> 00:00:18.809 ASSASSINATION. I JUST SPOKE TO PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR JOSH 00:00:18.820 --> 00:00:20.553 PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO. WE’LL BRING YOU A 00:00:20.588 --> 00:00:22.789 SHAPIRO. WE’LL BRING YOU A FIRST LOOK AT THAT EXCLUSIVE 00:00:22.790 --> 00:00:24.047 FIRST LOOK AT THAT EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH HIS REACTION TO 00:00:24.058 --> 00:00:25.692 INTERVIEW WITH HIS REACTION TO THE PRESIDENT SUGGESTING THE 00:00:25.693 --> 00:00:28.018 THE PRESIDENT SUGGESTING THE FCC COULD TAKE AWAY 00:00:28.029 --> 00:00:30.287 FCC COULD TAKE AWAY BROADCASTERS LICENSES FOR WHAT 00:00:30.298 --> 00:00:33.500 BROADCASTERS LICENSES FOR WHAT HE SEES AS NEGATIVE COVERAGE. 00:00:33.501 --> 00:00:36.026 HE SEES AS NEGATIVE COVERAGE. PLUS, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT 00:00:36.037 --> 00:00:36.870 PLUS, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS REIGNITES DIVISIONS IN 00:00:36.904 --> 00:00:39.205 HARRIS REIGNITES DIVISIONS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS SEVERAL 00:00:39.207 --> 00:00:40.698 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS SEVERAL HIGH PROFILE DEMOCRATS AND 00:00:40.709 --> 00:00:42.933 HIGH PROFILE DEMOCRATS AND POTENTIAL 2020 CONTENDERS 00:00:42.944 --> 00:00:44.744 POTENTIAL 2020 CONTENDERS RESPOND TO BEING CRITICIZED BY 00:00:44.746 --> 00:00:47.004 RESPOND TO BEING CRITICIZED BY NAME IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT LAST 00:00:47.015 --> 00:00:49.783 NAME IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT LAST YEAR’S FAILED CAMPAIGN. AND 00:00:49.817 --> 00:00:51.918 YEAR’S FAILED CAMPAIGN. AND CONGRESS CAREENS TOWARDS A 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.321 CONGRESS CAREENS TOWARDS A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AS SEPARATE 00:00:54.322 --> 00:00:55.012 GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AS SEPARATE PLANS PUSHED BY REPUBLICANS AND 00:00:55.023 --> 00:00:57.081 PLANS PUSHED BY REPUBLICANS AND BY DEMOCRATS BOTH FAIL IN THE 00:00:57.092 --> 00:00:58.892 BY DEMOCRATS BOTH FAIL IN THE SENATE AND LAWMAKERS HEAD HOME 00:00:58.927 --> 00:01:02.329 SENATE AND LAWMAKERS HEAD HOME WITHOUT A STRATEGY IN PLACE TO 00:01:02.330 --> 00:01:04.097 WITHOUT A STRATEGY IN PLACE TO AVOID A SHUTDOWN AT THE END OF 00:01:04.099 --> 00:01:18.002 AVOID A SHUTDOWN AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WELCOME TO MEET THE 00:01:18.013 --> 00:01:20.037 THE MONTH. WELCOME TO MEET THE PRESS. NOW, I AM KRISTEN WELKER 00:01:20.048 --> 00:01:21.815 PRESS. NOW, I AM KRISTEN WELKER IN PHILADELPHIA. RIGHT NOW, 00:01:21.850 --> 00:01:22.973 IN PHILADELPHIA. RIGHT NOW, AMERICAN LEADERS, BOTH 00:01:22.984 --> 00:01:24.718 AMERICAN LEADERS, BOTH POLITICAL AND CULTURAL, ARE 00:01:24.753 --> 00:01:26.911 POLITICAL AND CULTURAL, ARE NAVIGATING A COMPLICATED AND 00:01:26.922 --> 00:01:28.021 NAVIGATING A COMPLICATED AND FRAUGHT MOMENT FOLLOWING 00:01:28.056 --> 00:01:30.157 FRAUGHT MOMENT FOLLOWING CHARLIE KIRK’S ASSASSINATION AS 00:01:30.158 --> 00:01:31.558 CHARLIE KIRK’S ASSASSINATION AS PRESIDENT TRUMP BLAMES HIS 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:34.685 PRESIDENT TRUMP BLAMES HIS RIVALS FOR THE TRAGEDY AND HIS 00:01:34.696 --> 00:01:35.887 RIVALS FOR THE TRAGEDY AND HIS ADMINISTRATION TESTS HOW FAR IT 00:01:35.898 --> 00:01:39.133 ADMINISTRATION TESTS HOW FAR IT CAN GO TO CRACK DOWN ON DISSENT. 00:01:39.167 --> 00:01:39.857 CAN GO TO CRACK DOWN ON DISSENT. IT’S FORCING REPUBLICANS TO 00:01:39.868 --> 00:01:41.926 IT’S FORCING REPUBLICANS TO GRAPPLE WITH HOW FAR THEY’RE 00:01:41.937 --> 00:01:42.860 GRAPPLE WITH HOW FAR THEY’RE WILLING TO GO TO SUPPORT FREE 00:01:42.871 --> 00:01:44.762 WILLING TO GO TO SUPPORT FREE SPEECH, AND DEMOCRATS TO 00:01:44.773 --> 00:01:45.740 SPEECH, AND DEMOCRATS TO GRAPPLE WITH HOW FAR THEY’RE 00:01:45.774 --> 00:01:47.875 GRAPPLE WITH HOW FAR THEY’RE WILLING TO GO TO RESPOND. IT 00:01:47.876 --> 00:01:49.934 WILLING TO GO TO RESPOND. IT COMES AS THE BACKLASH GROWS 00:01:49.945 --> 00:01:51.702 COMES AS THE BACKLASH GROWS FOLLOWING ABC’S SUSPENSION OF 00:01:51.713 --> 00:01:53.771 FOLLOWING ABC’S SUSPENSION OF LATE NIGHT HOST JIMMY KIMMEL 00:01:53.782 --> 00:01:55.082 LATE NIGHT HOST JIMMY KIMMEL OVER COMMENTS ACCUSING 00:01:55.083 --> 00:01:56.774 OVER COMMENTS ACCUSING REPUBLICANS OF PLAYING POLITICS 00:01:56.785 --> 00:01:58.209 REPUBLICANS OF PLAYING POLITICS WITH CHARLIE KIRK’S 00:01:58.220 --> 00:01:59.554 WITH CHARLIE KIRK’S ASSASSINATION, KIMMEL 00:01:59.588 --> 00:02:01.746 ASSASSINATION, KIMMEL SUPPORTERS SAYING ABC’S PARENT 00:02:01.757 --> 00:02:02.980 SUPPORTERS SAYING ABC’S PARENT COMPANY CAVED TO POLITICAL 00:02:02.991 --> 00:02:04.725 COMPANY CAVED TO POLITICAL PRESSURE FROM THE FCC CHIEF 00:02:04.726 --> 00:02:06.827 PRESSURE FROM THE FCC CHIEF BRENDAN CARR, WHO HAD 00:02:06.828 --> 00:02:08.419 BRENDAN CARR, WHO HAD THREATENED TO REVOKE AFFILIATES 00:02:08.430 --> 00:02:10.731 THREATENED TO REVOKE AFFILIATES LICENSES OVER KIMMEL’S REMARKS. 00:02:10.732 --> 00:02:12.066 LICENSES OVER KIMMEL’S REMARKS. PRESIDENT TRUMP THEN THREATENED 00:02:12.100 --> 00:02:13.624 PRESIDENT TRUMP THEN THREATENED FURTHER ACTION, SUGGESTING HE’D 00:02:13.635 --> 00:02:15.870 FURTHER ACTION, SUGGESTING HE’D PUNISH TV NETWORKS THAT AIR 00:02:15.904 --> 00:02:18.005 PUNISH TV NETWORKS THAT AIR UNFAVORABLE COVERAGE OF HIM. 00:02:18.006 --> 00:02:19.163 UNFAVORABLE COVERAGE OF HIM. >> LISTEN WELL. 00:02:19.174 --> 00:02:20.975 >> LISTEN WELL. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN A LATE NIGHT 00:02:21.009 --> 00:02:24.111 >> YOU KNOW, WHEN A LATE NIGHT HOST IS ON NETWORK TELEVISION, 00:02:24.113 --> 00:02:25.570 HOST IS ON NETWORK TELEVISION, THERE IS A LICENSING. I’LL GIVE 00:02:25.581 --> 00:02:26.781 THERE IS A LICENSING. I’LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I READ 00:02:26.815 --> 00:02:29.507 YOU AN EXAMPLE. I READ SOMEPLACE THAT THE NETWORKS 00:02:29.518 --> 00:02:32.777 SOMEPLACE THAT THE NETWORKS WERE 97% AGAINST ME. I GOT 97% 00:02:32.788 --> 00:02:34.713 WERE 97% AGAINST ME. I GOT 97% NEGATIVE. AND YET I WON AN 00:02:34.724 --> 00:02:36.657 NEGATIVE. AND YET I WON AN EASILY WON ALL SEVEN SWING 00:02:36.659 --> 00:02:39.995 EASILY WON ALL SEVEN SWING STATES WON EVERYTHING. AND IF 00:02:40.029 --> 00:02:43.088 STATES WON EVERYTHING. AND IF THEY’RE 97% AGAINST, THEY GIVE 00:02:43.099 --> 00:02:46.734 THEY’RE 97% AGAINST, THEY GIVE ME ONLY BAD PUBLICITY OR PRESS. 00:02:46.735 --> 00:02:48.526 ME ONLY BAD PUBLICITY OR PRESS. I MEAN, THEY’RE GETTING A 00:02:48.537 --> 00:02:50.938 I MEAN, THEY’RE GETTING A LICENSE. I WOULD. THINK MAYBE 00:02:50.940 --> 00:02:52.631 LICENSE. I WOULD. THINK MAYBE THEIR LICENSE SHOULD BE TAKEN 00:02:52.642 --> 00:02:55.109 THEIR LICENSE SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY. IT WOULD BE UP TO BRENDAN 00:02:55.144 --> 00:02:55.767 AWAY. IT WOULD BE UP TO BRENDAN CARR. 00:02:55.778 --> 00:02:58.637 CARR. >> NOW, EARLIER EARLIER TODAY, 00:02:58.648 --> 00:02:59.814 >> NOW, EARLIER EARLIER TODAY, I SPOKE EXCLUSIVELY WITH 00:02:59.849 --> 00:03:00.949 I SPOKE EXCLUSIVELY WITH PENNSYLVANIA’S DEMOCRATIC 00:03:00.950 --> 00:03:03.151 PENNSYLVANIA’S DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR, JOSH SHAPIRO, WHO WAS 00:03:03.152 --> 00:03:04.943 GOVERNOR, JOSH SHAPIRO, WHO WAS HIMSELF A VICTIM OF POLITICAL 00:03:04.954 --> 00:03:06.678 HIMSELF A VICTIM OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN 00:03:06.689 --> 00:03:08.757 VIOLENCE EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN AN ARSONIST FIREBOMBED HIS 00:03:08.758 --> 00:03:10.892 AN ARSONIST FIREBOMBED HIS RESIDENCE WITH HIS FAMILY 00:03:10.893 --> 00:03:14.195 RESIDENCE WITH HIS FAMILY INSIDE. HERE IS A FIRST LOOK AT 00:03:14.196 --> 00:03:16.631 INSIDE. HERE IS A FIRST LOOK AT PART OF OUR CONVERSATION. FREE 00:03:16.666 --> 00:03:19.258 PART OF OUR CONVERSATION. FREE SPEECH AND SPEECH HAS BEEN IN 00:03:19.269 --> 00:03:21.126 SPEECH AND SPEECH HAS BEEN IN THE SPOTLIGHT THIS WEEK AFTER 00:03:21.137 --> 00:03:26.240 THE SPOTLIGHT THIS WEEK AFTER THE NEWS THAT ABC PULLED JIMMY 00:03:26.275 --> 00:03:28.276 THE NEWS THAT ABC PULLED JIMMY KIMMEL, COMEDIAN, OFF THE AIR 00:03:28.277 --> 00:03:32.103 KIMMEL, COMEDIAN, OFF THE AIR AFTER COMMENTS THAT HE MADE ON 00:03:32.114 --> 00:03:32.948 AFTER COMMENTS THAT HE MADE ON HIS LATE NIGHT SHOW, WHAT WAS 00:03:32.982 --> 00:03:34.706 HIS LATE NIGHT SHOW, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO LEARNING THAT 00:03:34.717 --> 00:03:36.785 YOUR REACTION TO LEARNING THAT HE’D BEEN PULLED OFF THE AIR? 00:03:36.786 --> 00:03:38.253 HE’D BEEN PULLED OFF THE AIR? >> FEAR. 00:03:38.287 --> 00:03:41.112 >> FEAR. >> JUST WORRY FOR OUR COUNTRY, 00:03:41.123 --> 00:03:43.825 >> JUST WORRY FOR OUR COUNTRY, OUR FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE. 00:03:43.826 --> 00:03:45.984 OUR FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE. >> IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH HAS 00:03:45.995 --> 00:03:46.885 >> IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH HAS ROOTS. 00:03:46.896 --> 00:03:47.963 ROOTS. >> IN THE. 00:03:47.997 --> 00:03:49.097 >> IN THE. >> COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA. 00:03:49.098 --> 00:03:50.422 >> COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA. >> WHEN WILLIAM PENN. 00:03:50.433 --> 00:03:50.823 >> WHEN WILLIAM PENN. >> SETTLED HERE IN. 00:03:50.834 --> 00:03:52.524 >> SETTLED HERE IN. >> THE 1680S. 00:03:52.535 --> 00:03:53.068 >> THE 1680S. >> IS IS ABOUT. FREEDOM OF 00:03:53.102 --> 00:03:53.725 >> IS IS ABOUT. FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. 00:03:53.736 --> 00:03:55.437 EXPRESSION. >> FREEDOM OF. 00:03:55.438 --> 00:03:55.871 >> FREEDOM OF. >> SPEECH. 00:03:55.905 --> 00:03:56.661 >> SPEECH. >> AND TO. 00:03:56.672 --> 00:03:58.840 >> AND TO. >> SEE THAT BEING UNDERMINED BY 00:03:58.842 --> 00:04:00.333 >> SEE THAT BEING UNDERMINED BY THE LONG ARM OF THE. 00:04:00.344 --> 00:04:01.710 THE LONG ARM OF THE. >> FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS. 00:04:01.711 --> 00:04:02.778 >> FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS. >> EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. 00:04:02.812 --> 00:04:04.336 >> EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. >> AGAIN, WHETHER YOU AGREE. 00:04:04.347 --> 00:04:05.047 >> AGAIN, WHETHER YOU AGREE. >> WITH JIMMY KIMMEL. 00:04:05.048 --> 00:04:05.905 >> WITH JIMMY KIMMEL. >> OR NOT, WHETHER YOU. 00:04:05.916 --> 00:04:07.239 >> OR NOT, WHETHER YOU. >> FOUND HIM FUNNY. 00:04:07.250 --> 00:04:08.784 >> FOUND HIM FUNNY. >> OR NOT, TO. 00:04:08.818 --> 00:04:09.174 >> OR NOT, TO. >> FIRE SOMEONE. 00:04:09.185 --> 00:04:10.452 >> FIRE SOMEONE. >> BECAUSE. 00:04:10.453 --> 00:04:10.752 >> BECAUSE. >> HE TOLD. 00:04:10.754 --> 00:04:11.010 >> HE TOLD. >> A JOKE. 00:04:11.021 --> 00:04:11.910 >> A JOKE. >> ABOUT THE. 00:04:11.921 --> 00:04:13.021 >> ABOUT THE. >> PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY, AND 00:04:13.022 --> 00:04:13.989 >> PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY, AND THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T. 00:04:14.023 --> 00:04:16.081 THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T. >> LIKE IT TO FIRE HIM BECAUSE 00:04:16.092 --> 00:04:16.949 >> LIKE IT TO FIRE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS INARTFUL, IN HIS WORDS, 00:04:16.960 --> 00:04:18.918 HE WAS INARTFUL, IN HIS WORDS, IN THE WAKE OF THE KILLING OF 00:04:18.929 --> 00:04:19.795 IN THE WAKE OF THE KILLING OF CHARLIE KIRK. WHEN YOU HAVE 00:04:19.829 --> 00:04:20.052 CHARLIE KIRK. WHEN YOU HAVE OTHERS. 00:04:20.063 --> 00:04:21.964 OTHERS. >> IN THE MEDIA AND I MEAN, 00:04:21.965 --> 00:04:22.164 >> IN THE MEDIA AND I MEAN, THIS. 00:04:22.165 --> 00:04:23.165 THIS. >> IS NO DISRESPECT. 00:04:23.166 --> 00:04:24.056 >> IS NO DISRESPECT. >> TO HER. 00:04:24.067 --> 00:04:24.657 >> TO HER. >> IN. 00:04:24.668 --> 00:04:25.825 >> IN. >> ARTFUL EVERY DAY, RIGHT? 00:04:25.836 --> 00:04:27.669 >> ARTFUL EVERY DAY, RIGHT? THAT IS DANGEROUS WHEN WE ARE 00:04:27.671 --> 00:04:29.205 THAT IS DANGEROUS WHEN WE ARE SELECTIVELY FIRING PEOPLE 00:04:29.239 --> 00:04:30.796 SELECTIVELY FIRING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWPOINTS. 00:04:30.807 --> 00:04:32.074 BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWPOINTS. >> I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR 00:04:32.075 --> 00:04:34.033 >> I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. DO 00:04:34.044 --> 00:04:35.912 ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT 00:04:35.946 --> 00:04:37.637 YOU BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE TRUMP 00:04:37.648 --> 00:04:40.172 TRUMP AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO 00:04:40.183 --> 00:04:44.020 ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO STIFLE DISSENT? AND PEOPLE WHO 00:04:44.054 --> 00:04:46.279 STIFLE DISSENT? AND PEOPLE WHO WOULD DISAGREE? 00:04:46.290 --> 00:04:46.846 WOULD DISAGREE? >> PARDON ME WITHOUT QUESTION. 00:04:46.857 --> 00:04:48.748 >> PARDON ME WITHOUT QUESTION. THEY’RE TRYING TO STIFLE 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:50.026 THEY’RE TRYING TO STIFLE DISSENT. THE PRESIDENT, IN HIS 00:04:50.060 --> 00:04:51.851 DISSENT. THE PRESIDENT, IN HIS OWN WORDS, I THINK, WAS ABOARD 00:04:51.862 --> 00:04:53.920 OWN WORDS, I THINK, WAS ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE A COUPLE NIGHTS 00:04:53.931 --> 00:04:55.855 AIR FORCE ONE A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO, MADE CLEAR HE WANTS TO 00:04:55.866 --> 00:04:57.734 AGO, MADE CLEAR HE WANTS TO LOOK AT THE LICENSES AND THE 00:04:57.768 --> 00:04:59.459 LOOK AT THE LICENSES AND THE CERTIFICATIONS FOR PARTICULAR 00:04:59.470 --> 00:05:00.869 CERTIFICATIONS FOR PARTICULAR MEDIA OUTLETS. IF ALL THEY’RE 00:05:00.871 --> 00:05:02.872 MEDIA OUTLETS. IF ALL THEY’RE DOING IS ATTACKING TRUMP. I 00:05:02.873 --> 00:05:04.997 DOING IS ATTACKING TRUMP. I MEAN, LISTEN, THE BEDROCK OF 00:05:05.008 --> 00:05:06.242 MEAN, LISTEN, THE BEDROCK OF OUR FREE SOCIETY IS THE FREEDOM 00:05:06.276 --> 00:05:07.900 OUR FREE SOCIETY IS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE FREEDOM FOR. 00:05:07.911 --> 00:05:08.277 OF SPEECH, THE FREEDOM FOR. SOMEONE LIKE YOU. 00:05:08.278 --> 00:05:09.011 SOMEONE LIKE YOU. >> TO ASK. 00:05:09.012 --> 00:05:10.846 >> TO ASK. >> ME QUESTIONS AND AND OPINE 00:05:10.881 --> 00:05:12.181 >> ME QUESTIONS AND AND OPINE ABOUT MY WORK, WHETHER I AGREE 00:05:12.182 --> 00:05:13.906 ABOUT MY WORK, WHETHER I AGREE WITH YOU OR NOT, WHETHER I LIKE 00:05:13.917 --> 00:05:15.918 WITH YOU OR NOT, WHETHER I LIKE WHAT YOU REPORT OR NOT. YOU’VE 00:05:15.919 --> 00:05:17.052 WHAT YOU REPORT OR NOT. YOU’VE GOT THE FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT 00:05:17.087 --> 00:05:18.945 GOT THE FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THAT 00:05:18.956 --> 00:05:20.780 TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS ALL 00:05:20.791 --> 00:05:22.682 IS SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS ALL OF US, ALL OF US. AND IT IS 00:05:22.693 --> 00:05:23.793 OF US, ALL OF US. AND IT IS DANGEROUS WHAT THIS PRESIDENT 00:05:23.794 --> 00:05:27.687 DANGEROUS WHAT THIS PRESIDENT IS ENGAGED IN. 00:05:27.698 --> 00:05:29.832 IS ENGAGED IN. >> NOW, YOU CAN WATCH MUCH MORE 00:05:29.833 --> 00:05:31.233 >> NOW, YOU CAN WATCH MUCH MORE OF THAT CONVERSATION THIS 00:05:31.235 --> 00:05:33.870 OF THAT CONVERSATION THIS SUNDAY ONLY ON MEET THE PRESS. 00:05:33.904 --> 00:05:35.661 SUNDAY ONLY ON MEET THE PRESS. NOW, WE SHOULD NOTE DEMOCRATS 00:05:35.672 --> 00:05:37.697 NOW, WE SHOULD NOTE DEMOCRATS HAVE ALSO HAD THEIR OWN 00:05:37.708 --> 00:05:38.875 HAVE ALSO HAD THEIR OWN INTRAPARTY DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT 00:05:38.909 --> 00:05:41.033 INTRAPARTY DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THE LIMITS OF FREE SPEECH AND 00:05:41.044 --> 00:05:41.844 THE LIMITS OF FREE SPEECH AND CENSORSHIP, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT 00:05:41.845 --> 00:05:44.337 CENSORSHIP, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SPEECH ON COLLEGE 00:05:44.348 --> 00:05:45.181 COMES TO SPEECH ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. BUT THE WHITE HOUSE 00:05:45.215 --> 00:05:46.939 CAMPUSES. BUT THE WHITE HOUSE IS. ACTIONS AND THREATS ARE 00:05:46.950 --> 00:05:48.708 IS. ACTIONS AND THREATS ARE WHAT IS DRIVING THE CURRENT 00:05:48.719 --> 00:05:51.044 WHAT IS DRIVING THE CURRENT DEBATE. AND DEMOCRATS ON 00:05:51.055 --> 00:05:52.489 DEBATE. AND DEMOCRATS ON CAPITOL HILL HAVE BEEN NEAR 00:05:52.523 --> 00:05:53.580 CAPITOL HILL HAVE BEEN NEAR UNIVERSAL IN THEIR CONDEMNATION. 00:05:53.591 --> 00:05:55.048 UNIVERSAL IN THEIR CONDEMNATION. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN MORE 00:05:55.059 --> 00:05:56.893 REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN MORE DIVIDED. TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ, 00:05:56.927 --> 00:05:57.817 DIVIDED. TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE 00:05:57.828 --> 00:05:59.886 THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE IN CHARGE OF THE FCC, 00:05:59.897 --> 00:06:01.631 COMMITTEE IN CHARGE OF THE FCC, HAD PRETTY STRONG WORDS OF 00:06:01.632 --> 00:06:04.734 HAD PRETTY STRONG WORDS OF WARNING ON HIS PODCAST TODAY. 00:06:04.735 --> 00:06:06.936 WARNING ON HIS PODCAST TODAY. >> I THINK IT IS. 00:06:06.937 --> 00:06:09.772 >> I THINK IT IS. >> UNBELIEVABLY DANGEROUS FOR 00:06:09.774 --> 00:06:11.608 >> UNBELIEVABLY DANGEROUS FOR GOVERNMENT TO PUT ITSELF IN THE. 00:06:11.642 --> 00:06:11.998 GOVERNMENT TO PUT ITSELF IN THE. >> POSITION OF. 00:06:12.009 --> 00:06:12.833 >> POSITION OF. >> SAYING. 00:06:12.844 --> 00:06:13.976 >> SAYING. >> WE’RE GOING TO DECIDE. 00:06:13.978 --> 00:06:15.011 >> WE’RE GOING TO DECIDE. >> WHAT SPEECH WE. 00:06:15.046 --> 00:06:16.904 >> WHAT SPEECH WE. >> LIKE AND WHAT WE DON’T, AND 00:06:16.915 --> 00:06:17.714 >> LIKE AND WHAT WE DON’T, AND WE’RE GOING TO. 00:06:17.748 --> 00:06:19.339 WE’RE GOING TO. >> THREATEN TO TAKE YOU OFF. 00:06:19.350 --> 00:06:20.106 >> THREATEN TO TAKE YOU OFF. >> AIR IF. 00:06:20.117 --> 00:06:20.650 >> AIR IF. >> WE DON’T LIKE. 00:06:20.651 --> 00:06:21.751 >> WE DON’T LIKE. >> WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. 00:06:21.752 --> 00:06:22.885 >> WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. >> AND IT MIGHT. 00:06:22.887 --> 00:06:24.087 >> AND IT MIGHT. >> FEEL GOOD RIGHT NOW TO 00:06:24.088 --> 00:06:25.245 >> FEEL GOOD RIGHT NOW TO THREATEN JIMMY KIMMEL. YEAH. 00:06:25.256 --> 00:06:26.189 THREATEN JIMMY KIMMEL. YEAH. >> BUT WHEN. 00:06:26.190 --> 00:06:26.723 >> BUT WHEN. >> IT. 00:06:26.757 --> 00:06:27.056 >> IT. >> IS USED. 00:06:27.058 --> 00:06:28.382 >> IS USED. >> TO SILENCE. 00:06:28.393 --> 00:06:29.125 >> TO SILENCE. >> EVERY CONSERVATIVE IN 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:30.651 >> EVERY CONSERVATIVE IN AMERICA, WE WILL REGRET IT. AND 00:06:30.662 --> 00:06:32.018 AMERICA, WE WILL REGRET IT. AND SO AGAIN, I LIKE BRENDAN CARR. 00:06:32.029 --> 00:06:33.930 SO AGAIN, I LIKE BRENDAN CARR. >> BUT WE SHOULD NOT. 00:06:33.965 --> 00:06:34.788 >> BUT WE SHOULD NOT. >> BE IN THIS BUSINESS. 00:06:34.799 --> 00:06:35.989 >> BE IN THIS BUSINESS. >> WE SHOULD DENOUNCE IT. IT’S 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:36.857 >> WE SHOULD DENOUNCE IT. IT’S FINE TO. 00:06:36.868 --> 00:06:38.535 FINE TO. >> SAY WHAT. 00:06:38.569 --> 00:06:39.025 >> SAY WHAT. >> JIMMY KIMMEL SAID. 00:06:39.036 --> 00:06:40.770 >> JIMMY KIMMEL SAID. >> WAS DEPLORABLE. IT WAS. 00:06:40.772 --> 00:06:41.138 >> WAS DEPLORABLE. IT WAS. DISGRACEFUL AND. 00:06:41.172 --> 00:06:42.472 DISGRACEFUL AND. >> HE SHOULD BE. 00:06:42.473 --> 00:06:43.096 >> HE SHOULD BE. >> OFF AIR. 00:06:43.107 --> 00:06:44.074 >> OFF AIR. >> BUT WE. 00:06:44.075 --> 00:06:45.399 >> BUT WE. >> SHOULDN’T BE. 00:06:45.410 --> 00:06:45.943 >> SHOULDN’T BE. >> THREATENING GOVERNMENT. 00:06:45.977 --> 00:06:47.668 >> THREATENING GOVERNMENT. >> POWER TO FORCE HIM OFF AIR. 00:06:47.679 --> 00:06:50.471 >> POWER TO FORCE HIM OFF AIR. THAT’S A REAL MISTAKE. 00:06:50.482 --> 00:06:53.073 THAT’S A REAL MISTAKE. >> NOW, REPUBLICAN SENATOR 00:06:53.084 --> 00:06:53.941 >> NOW, REPUBLICAN SENATOR CYNTHIA LUMMIS, STRIKING A 00:06:53.952 --> 00:06:55.952 CYNTHIA LUMMIS, STRIKING A DIFFERENT TONE, TELLING SEMAFOR 00:06:55.987 --> 00:06:57.845 DIFFERENT TONE, TELLING SEMAFOR THIS QUOTE, UNDER NORMAL TIMES 00:06:57.856 --> 00:06:59.880 THIS QUOTE, UNDER NORMAL TIMES AND NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, I 00:06:59.891 --> 00:07:01.115 AND NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, I TEND TO THINK THAT THE FIRST 00:07:01.126 --> 00:07:02.716 TEND TO THINK THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD ALWAYS BE SORT 00:07:02.727 --> 00:07:04.027 AMENDMENT SHOULD ALWAYS BE SORT OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT, AND THAT 00:07:04.028 --> 00:07:05.495 OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT, AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE ALMOST NO 00:07:05.496 --> 00:07:07.163 THERE SHOULD BE ALMOST NO CHECKS AND BALANCES ON IT. I 00:07:07.198 --> 00:07:09.956 CHECKS AND BALANCES ON IT. I DON’T FEEL THAT WAY ANYMORE. 00:07:09.967 --> 00:07:11.701 DON’T FEEL THAT WAY ANYMORE. AND WITH THAT, I AM JOINED NOW 00:07:11.703 --> 00:07:12.903 AND WITH THAT, I AM JOINED NOW BY NBC NEWS WHITE HOUSE 00:07:12.904 --> 00:07:14.938 BY NBC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT YAMICHE ALCINDOR, 00:07:14.939 --> 00:07:15.772 CORRESPONDENT YAMICHE ALCINDOR, NBC NEWS CAPITOL HILL 00:07:15.807 --> 00:07:18.265 NBC NEWS CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT MELANIE ZANONA, 00:07:18.276 --> 00:07:19.834 CORRESPONDENT MELANIE ZANONA, AND TY COBB, WHO SERVED AS A 00:07:19.845 --> 00:07:21.778 AND TY COBB, WHO SERVED AS A WHITE HOUSE ATTORNEY DURING THE 00:07:21.813 --> 00:07:22.913 WHITE HOUSE ATTORNEY DURING THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. 00:07:22.914 --> 00:07:25.215 FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. HE’S ALSO A FORMER ASSISTANT 00:07:25.216 --> 00:07:26.940 HE’S ALSO A FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY. THANKS TO ALL OF 00:07:26.951 --> 00:07:28.786 U.S. ATTORNEY. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STARTING US OFF, TY. 00:07:28.820 --> 00:07:30.077 YOU FOR STARTING US OFF, TY. THANKS TO YOU FOR BEING HERE. 00:07:30.088 --> 00:07:32.156 THANKS TO YOU FOR BEING HERE. I’M GOING TO GET TO YOU IN JUST 00:07:32.157 --> 00:07:33.824 I’M GOING TO GET TO YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. TY. I DO WANT TO 00:07:33.825 --> 00:07:35.092 A MOMENT. TY. I DO WANT TO START WITH YAMICHE, THOUGH, WHO 00:07:35.126 --> 00:07:37.484 START WITH YAMICHE, THOUGH, WHO IS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. YAMICHE, 00:07:37.495 --> 00:07:37.895 IS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. YAMICHE, TAKE US INSIDE THE 00:07:37.929 --> 00:07:38.886 TAKE US INSIDE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ARE 00:07:38.897 --> 00:07:40.964 CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ARE HAVING WITH SOURCES THERE. IS 00:07:40.966 --> 00:07:43.201 HAVING WITH SOURCES THERE. IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE 00:07:43.235 --> 00:07:44.992 THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE PUSHBACK THAT YOU ARE SEEING 00:07:45.003 --> 00:07:45.827 PUSHBACK THAT YOU ARE SEEING FROM THE LIKES OF SENATOR TED 00:07:45.838 --> 00:07:48.005 FROM THE LIKES OF SENATOR TED CRUZ, FROM OTHER CONSERVATIVES 00:07:48.039 --> 00:07:49.963 CRUZ, FROM OTHER CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE NOW EXPRESSING CONCERNS 00:07:49.974 --> 00:07:50.974 WHO ARE NOW EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT FREE SPEECH? 00:07:50.976 --> 00:07:52.810 ABOUT FREE SPEECH? >> AS OF NOW, IN MY 00:07:52.844 --> 00:07:53.944 >> AS OF NOW, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH WHITE HOUSE 00:07:53.945 --> 00:07:55.636 CONVERSATIONS WITH WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS, I HAVE NOT SENSED 00:07:55.647 --> 00:07:56.904 OFFICIALS, I HAVE NOT SENSED THAT THEY FEEL AS THOUGH 00:07:56.915 --> 00:07:58.840 THAT THEY FEEL AS THOUGH THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A WAVE OF 00:07:58.851 --> 00:07:59.717 THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A WAVE OF PUSHBACK TO THESE ACTIONS BY 00:07:59.751 --> 00:08:00.874 PUSHBACK TO THESE ACTIONS BY PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEY REALLY 00:08:00.885 --> 00:08:02.953 PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE WIND AT 00:08:02.954 --> 00:08:04.578 FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE WIND AT THEIR BACKS, AND THAT THIS SAD, 00:08:04.589 --> 00:08:05.823 THEIR BACKS, AND THAT THIS SAD, SAD TRAGEDY INVOLVING CHARLIE 00:08:05.857 --> 00:08:07.915 SAD TRAGEDY INVOLVING CHARLIE KIRK HAS REALLY, IN SOME WAYS, 00:08:07.926 --> 00:08:08.783 KIRK HAS REALLY, IN SOME WAYS, EMBOLDENED THEM TO MAKE THE 00:08:08.794 --> 00:08:10.795 EMBOLDENED THEM TO MAKE THE CASE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN 00:08:10.796 --> 00:08:12.053 CASE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DON’T DESERVE 00:08:12.064 --> 00:08:13.631 THIS COUNTRY THAT DON’T DESERVE TO BE ON TELEVISION AND SHOULD, 00:08:13.665 --> 00:08:15.289 TO BE ON TELEVISION AND SHOULD, IN SOME CASES, HAVE THEIR 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:16.033 IN SOME CASES, HAVE THEIR LICENSE TAKEN AWAY WHEN IT 00:08:16.068 --> 00:08:17.692 LICENSE TAKEN AWAY WHEN IT COMES TO DIFFERENT NETWORKS. 00:08:17.703 --> 00:08:18.802 COMES TO DIFFERENT NETWORKS. THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF WAS VERY 00:08:18.804 --> 00:08:20.838 THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF WAS VERY CLEAR, HE SAID ON AIR FORCE ONE 00:08:20.873 --> 00:08:21.896 CLEAR, HE SAID ON AIR FORCE ONE THERE. I KNOW YOU PLAYED PART 00:08:21.907 --> 00:08:23.908 THERE. I KNOW YOU PLAYED PART OF IT, HE SAYS. I ESSENTIALLY 00:08:23.909 --> 00:08:25.066 OF IT, HE SAYS. I ESSENTIALLY WON THE POPULAR VOTE, HAVE THE 00:08:25.077 --> 00:08:26.945 WON THE POPULAR VOTE, HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, 00:08:26.979 --> 00:08:27.979 SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN 00:08:27.980 --> 00:08:29.938 THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND AS A RESULT, HE 00:08:29.949 --> 00:08:30.748 PEOPLE. AND AS A RESULT, HE BELIEVES THAT WHEN HE SEES 00:08:30.783 --> 00:08:32.807 BELIEVES THAT WHEN HE SEES THINGS ON NETWORKS THAT ARE 00:08:32.818 --> 00:08:33.985 THINGS ON NETWORKS THAT ARE NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, THAT ARE 00:08:33.986 --> 00:08:35.720 NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, THAT ARE NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, THAT THAT 00:08:35.721 --> 00:08:37.855 NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, THAT THAT IS SOMEHOW NOT THE WILL OF THE 00:08:37.890 --> 00:08:39.090 IS SOMEHOW NOT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, NOT IN THE PUBLIC 00:08:39.091 --> 00:08:40.748 PEOPLE, NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND AS A RESULT, HE 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:41.960 INTEREST. AND AS A RESULT, HE FEELS LIKE HE CAN GO AFTER 00:08:41.994 --> 00:08:44.018 FEELS LIKE HE CAN GO AFTER NETWORKS. HOW FAR THIS GOES IS 00:08:44.029 --> 00:08:44.929 NETWORKS. HOW FAR THIS GOES IS A BIG QUESTION HERE. YOU ALSO, 00:08:44.930 --> 00:08:47.088 A BIG QUESTION HERE. YOU ALSO, OF COURSE, MENTIONED THAT TED 00:08:47.099 --> 00:08:48.099 OF COURSE, MENTIONED THAT TED CRUZ. THERE’S ALSO SENATOR THOM 00:08:48.100 --> 00:08:49.968 CRUZ. THERE’S ALSO SENATOR THOM TILLIS OF NORTH CAROLINA, TED 00:08:50.002 --> 00:08:51.102 TILLIS OF NORTH CAROLINA, TED CRUZ, OF COURSE, BEING FROM 00:08:51.103 --> 00:08:53.127 CRUZ, OF COURSE, BEING FROM TEXAS, THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING 00:08:53.138 --> 00:08:53.795 TEXAS, THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING BACK, SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT 00:08:53.806 --> 00:08:55.940 BACK, SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THE TRUMP 00:08:55.941 --> 00:08:56.707 WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION DOING. BUT I 00:08:56.709 --> 00:08:58.643 ADMINISTRATION DOING. BUT I JUST DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH WEIGHT 00:08:58.644 --> 00:09:00.278 JUST DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH WEIGHT THOSE SENATORS HAVE IN A WHITE 00:09:00.312 --> 00:09:01.869 THOSE SENATORS HAVE IN A WHITE HOUSE WHERE THE PRESIDENT FEELS 00:09:01.880 --> 00:09:02.880 HOUSE WHERE THE PRESIDENT FEELS LIKE HE HAS THE POPULARITY OF 00:09:02.915 --> 00:09:04.873 LIKE HE HAS THE POPULARITY OF HIS PARTY. 00:09:04.884 --> 00:09:06.808 HIS PARTY. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, YAMICHE, 00:09:06.819 --> 00:09:08.753 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, YAMICHE, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THAT 00:09:08.754 --> 00:09:09.988 PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THAT HE PLANS TO SPEAK AT CHARLIE 00:09:10.022 --> 00:09:11.779 HE PLANS TO SPEAK AT CHARLIE KIRK’S FUNERAL ON SUNDAY. WHAT 00:09:11.790 --> 00:09:13.815 KIRK’S FUNERAL ON SUNDAY. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT WHAT WE 00:09:13.826 --> 00:09:15.050 ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT HEAR FROM HIM, WHAT HIS 00:09:15.061 --> 00:09:17.796 MIGHT HEAR FROM HIM, WHAT HIS REMARKS MIGHT BE FOCUSED ON ON 00:09:17.830 --> 00:09:18.853 REMARKS MIGHT BE FOCUSED ON ON SUNDAY, OBVIOUSLY PAYING 00:09:18.864 --> 00:09:19.964 SUNDAY, OBVIOUSLY PAYING TRIBUTE TO CHARLIE KIRK. 00:09:19.966 --> 00:09:21.857 TRIBUTE TO CHARLIE KIRK. >> WE CERTAINLY EXPECT HIM TO 00:09:21.868 --> 00:09:23.801 >> WE CERTAINLY EXPECT HIM TO PAY TRIBUTE TO CHARLIE KIRK. 00:09:23.836 --> 00:09:25.627 PAY TRIBUTE TO CHARLIE KIRK. THE WHITE HOUSE HASN’T PUT OUT 00:09:25.638 --> 00:09:26.938 THE WHITE HOUSE HASN’T PUT OUT A CERTAIN PREVIEW OF HIS 00:09:26.939 --> 00:09:28.897 A CERTAIN PREVIEW OF HIS STATEMENTS, BUT WE CAN GATHER 00:09:28.908 --> 00:09:30.441 STATEMENTS, BUT WE CAN GATHER JUST BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS 00:09:30.443 --> 00:09:31.710 JUST BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID IN THIS TRAGEDY AND THE 00:09:31.744 --> 00:09:32.944 SAID IN THIS TRAGEDY AND THE WAY THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS 00:09:32.945 --> 00:09:34.369 WAY THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN SO PERSONALLY CONNECTED TO 00:09:34.380 --> 00:09:34.913 BEEN SO PERSONALLY CONNECTED TO CHARLIE KIRK THROUGHOUT THE 00:09:34.947 --> 00:09:36.948 CHARLIE KIRK THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THAT HE IS GOING TO BE 00:09:36.949 --> 00:09:38.149 YEARS, THAT HE IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AS 00:09:38.151 --> 00:09:39.875 TALKING ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AS SOMEONE WHO THEY SAW AS A HERO 00:09:39.886 --> 00:09:41.219 SOMEONE WHO THEY SAW AS A HERO OF THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT. 00:09:41.254 --> 00:09:43.145 OF THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT 00:09:43.156 --> 00:09:44.747 HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT CHARLIE KIRK IS SOMEONE THAT HE 00:09:44.758 --> 00:09:46.915 CHARLIE KIRK IS SOMEONE THAT HE CREDITS FOR HELPING HIM WIN HIS 00:09:46.926 --> 00:09:48.260 CREDITS FOR HELPING HIM WIN HIS WAY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE, 00:09:48.261 --> 00:09:49.051 WAY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE, THAT HE WAS INCREDIBLY TALENTED 00:09:49.062 --> 00:09:51.096 THAT HE WAS INCREDIBLY TALENTED IN HIS MIND, IN THE PRESIDENT’S 00:09:51.097 --> 00:09:52.588 IN HIS MIND, IN THE PRESIDENT’S MIND, WITH CONVINCING YOUNG 00:09:52.599 --> 00:09:53.755 MIND, WITH CONVINCING YOUNG CONSERVATIVES TO REALLY GET 00:09:53.766 --> 00:09:55.934 CONSERVATIVES TO REALLY GET EXCITED ABOUT ELECTIONS. AND OF 00:09:55.969 --> 00:09:57.226 EXCITED ABOUT ELECTIONS. AND OF COURSE, WE EXPECT THE SORT OF 00:09:57.237 --> 00:09:58.737 COURSE, WE EXPECT THE SORT OF PERSONAL TOUCH BECAUSE THE 00:09:58.771 --> 00:10:00.095 PERSONAL TOUCH BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT’S SON, DONALD TRUMP 00:10:00.106 --> 00:10:01.597 PRESIDENT’S SON, DONALD TRUMP JUNIOR, HAS SAID THAT FOR AT 00:10:01.608 --> 00:10:02.808 JUNIOR, HAS SAID THAT FOR AT LEAST THE LAST TEN YEARS, HE 00:10:02.809 --> 00:10:04.843 LEAST THE LAST TEN YEARS, HE SPOKE TO CHARLIE KIRK ALMOST 00:10:04.877 --> 00:10:06.701 SPOKE TO CHARLIE KIRK ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO YOU CAN 00:10:06.712 --> 00:10:08.003 EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS 00:10:08.014 --> 00:10:09.581 IMAGINE THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THAT HE SEES CHARLIE KIRK 00:10:09.582 --> 00:10:11.750 SAID THAT HE SEES CHARLIE KIRK AS A SORT OF SON TO HIM. SO YOU 00:10:11.784 --> 00:10:13.041 AS A SORT OF SON TO HIM. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE’S ALSO 00:10:13.052 --> 00:10:15.120 CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE’S ALSO GOING TO BE NOT JUST THE 00:10:15.121 --> 00:10:15.754 GOING TO BE NOT JUST THE POLITICS, BUT THE PERSONAL HERE. 00:10:15.788 --> 00:10:16.745 POLITICS, BUT THE PERSONAL HERE. KRISTEN. 00:10:16.756 --> 00:10:18.357 KRISTEN. >> AND YAMICHE, WE SHOULD NOTE, 00:10:18.391 --> 00:10:19.491 >> AND YAMICHE, WE SHOULD NOTE, AS WE’RE HAVING THIS 00:10:19.492 --> 00:10:20.215 AS WE’RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, WE ANTICIPATE 00:10:20.226 --> 00:10:22.861 CONVERSATION, WE ANTICIPATE PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT BE MAKING 00:10:22.896 --> 00:10:24.320 PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT BE MAKING SOME REMARKS, SIGNING SOME 00:10:24.331 --> 00:10:25.921 SOME REMARKS, SIGNING SOME EXECUTIVE ACTIONS IN THE OVAL 00:10:25.932 --> 00:10:27.166 EXECUTIVE ACTIONS IN THE OVAL OFFICE. SO WE WILL TAKE FOLKS 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.224 OFFICE. SO WE WILL TAKE FOLKS TO THAT EVENT ONCE IT DOES 00:10:29.235 --> 00:10:31.570 TO THAT EVENT ONCE IT DOES BEGIN. BUT MELANIE, LET ME GET 00:10:31.604 --> 00:10:33.705 BEGIN. BUT MELANIE, LET ME GET TO YOU BEFORE WE GET TO TY, 00:10:33.707 --> 00:10:35.031 TO YOU BEFORE WE GET TO TY, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 00:10:35.042 --> 00:10:37.009 TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIVIDE THAT WE’RE SEEING. THE 00:10:37.010 --> 00:10:38.377 DIVIDE THAT WE’RE SEEING. THE REACTION ON CAPITOL HILL 00:10:38.411 --> 00:10:38.901 REACTION ON CAPITOL HILL AMONGST REPUBLICANS. 00:10:38.912 --> 00:10:40.112 AMONGST REPUBLICANS. >> YEAH. WELL, THERE ARE. 00:10:40.113 --> 00:10:41.170 >> YEAH. WELL, THERE ARE. >> SOME CRACKS. 00:10:41.181 --> 00:10:42.738 >> SOME CRACKS. >> IN THE GOP OVER THIS ISSUE, 00:10:42.749 --> 00:10:44.807 >> IN THE GOP OVER THIS ISSUE, AND I DO THINK IT POSES AN 00:10:44.818 --> 00:10:45.985 AND I DO THINK IT POSES AN IDENTITY TEST FOR REPUBLICANS 00:10:46.019 --> 00:10:47.276 IDENTITY TEST FOR REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE LONG PRIDED THEMSELVES 00:10:47.287 --> 00:10:48.087 WHO HAVE LONG PRIDED THEMSELVES ON BEING THE CHAMPIONS OF FREE 00:10:48.121 --> 00:10:50.546 ON BEING THE CHAMPIONS OF FREE SPEECH. NOW, REPUBLICANS, OF 00:10:50.557 --> 00:10:51.824 SPEECH. NOW, REPUBLICANS, OF COURSE, ARE LINING UP TO DEFEND 00:10:51.825 --> 00:10:52.858 COURSE, ARE LINING UP TO DEFEND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. MOST 00:10:52.859 --> 00:10:54.193 THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. MOST OF THE REPUBLICANS THAT I 00:10:54.227 --> 00:10:56.085 OF THE REPUBLICANS THAT I TALKED TO OVER THE PAST FEW 00:10:56.096 --> 00:10:56.852 TALKED TO OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS, INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP, 00:10:56.863 --> 00:10:59.264 DAYS, INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP, HAVE REALLY CHALKED THIS UP AS 00:10:59.266 --> 00:10:59.832 HAVE REALLY CHALKED THIS UP AS TO JUST A PRIVATE BUSINESS 00:10:59.833 --> 00:11:02.158 TO JUST A PRIVATE BUSINESS MAKING A BUSINESS DECISION 00:11:02.169 --> 00:11:03.102 MAKING A BUSINESS DECISION BASED ON THEIR OWN STANDARDS, 00:11:03.136 --> 00:11:03.792 BASED ON THEIR OWN STANDARDS, DESPITE THE FACT, OF COURSE, 00:11:03.803 --> 00:11:05.828 DESPITE THE FACT, OF COURSE, THAT THE FCC DID PRESSURE AND 00:11:05.839 --> 00:11:07.306 THAT THE FCC DID PRESSURE AND THREATEN THE COMPANY TO MAKE 00:11:07.341 --> 00:11:08.765 THREATEN THE COMPANY TO MAKE THIS MOVE, OR IN SOME CASES, 00:11:08.776 --> 00:11:10.366 THIS MOVE, OR IN SOME CASES, REPUBLICANS HAVE TRIED TO POINT 00:11:10.377 --> 00:11:11.777 REPUBLICANS HAVE TRIED TO POINT THE FINGER AT DEMOCRATS AND 00:11:11.778 --> 00:11:12.911 THE FINGER AT DEMOCRATS AND CALL THEM HYPOCRITICAL FOR 00:11:12.946 --> 00:11:15.104 CALL THEM HYPOCRITICAL FOR PUSHING TO DEPLATFORM PRESIDENT 00:11:15.115 --> 00:11:17.550 PUSHING TO DEPLATFORM PRESIDENT TRUMP, FOR EXAMPLE, BACK AFTER 00:11:17.551 --> 00:11:18.651 TRUMP, FOR EXAMPLE, BACK AFTER THE JANUARY 6TH INSURRECTION. 00:11:18.652 --> 00:11:19.952 THE JANUARY 6TH INSURRECTION. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME 00:11:19.953 --> 00:11:21.921 BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NOTABLE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE 00:11:21.955 --> 00:11:22.711 NOTABLE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT AND 00:11:22.722 --> 00:11:24.847 BEEN SPEAKING OUT AND EXPRESSING REAL CONCERN ABOUT 00:11:24.858 --> 00:11:25.858 EXPRESSING REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION 00:11:25.859 --> 00:11:27.650 THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION HERE. TED CRUZ, FOR EXAMPLE, 00:11:27.661 --> 00:11:29.028 HERE. TED CRUZ, FOR EXAMPLE, HE’S ONE OF TRUMP’S STRONGEST 00:11:29.062 --> 00:11:30.753 HE’S ONE OF TRUMP’S STRONGEST ALLIES ON CAPITOL HILL. SO IT 00:11:30.764 --> 00:11:31.988 ALLIES ON CAPITOL HILL. SO IT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING, ALMOST 00:11:31.999 --> 00:11:34.366 WAS KIND OF SURPRISING, ALMOST TO HEAR HIM ON HIS PODCAST THIS 00:11:34.368 --> 00:11:35.992 TO HEAR HIM ON HIS PODCAST THIS MORNING. SAYING THAT WHILE HE 00:11:36.003 --> 00:11:36.836 MORNING. SAYING THAT WHILE HE COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH WHAT 00:11:36.870 --> 00:11:39.362 COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH WHAT KIMMEL SAID, HE ALSO BELIEVES 00:11:39.373 --> 00:11:40.697 KIMMEL SAID, HE ALSO BELIEVES THAT IT’S DANGEROUS TERRITORY 00:11:40.708 --> 00:11:41.941 THAT IT’S DANGEROUS TERRITORY TO ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO 00:11:41.975 --> 00:11:43.599 TO ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO START DICTATING WHAT SHOULD BE 00:11:43.610 --> 00:11:44.877 START DICTATING WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE AIRWAVES. AND HE WARNED 00:11:44.878 --> 00:11:46.102 ON THE AIRWAVES. AND HE WARNED THAT REPUBLICANS AREN’T GOING 00:11:46.113 --> 00:11:48.047 THAT REPUBLICANS AREN’T GOING TO LIKE IT VERY MUCH WHEN THE 00:11:48.082 --> 00:11:48.972 TO LIKE IT VERY MUCH WHEN THE TABLES ARE EVENTUALLY TURNED. 00:11:48.983 --> 00:11:50.707 TABLES ARE EVENTUALLY TURNED. AND I DO THINK, KRISTEN, 00:11:50.718 --> 00:11:51.951 AND I DO THINK, KRISTEN, PRIVATELY, THAT IS A FEAR 00:11:51.986 --> 00:11:53.086 PRIVATELY, THAT IS A FEAR SHARED BY MANY OTHER 00:11:53.087 --> 00:11:55.388 SHARED BY MANY OTHER REPUBLICANS BEYOND TED CRUZ. 00:11:55.389 --> 00:11:56.980 REPUBLICANS BEYOND TED CRUZ. JUST FEW OF THEM ARE WILLING TO 00:11:56.991 --> 00:11:59.716 JUST FEW OF THEM ARE WILLING TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW. 00:11:59.727 --> 00:12:02.185 SAY THAT OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW. >> MEL, STAND BY FOR US. I WANT 00:12:02.196 --> 00:12:03.229 >> MEL, STAND BY FOR US. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 00:12:03.230 --> 00:12:03.963 TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE GOVERNMENT 00:12:03.998 --> 00:12:05.889 POSSIBILITY THAT THE GOVERNMENT COULD SHUT DOWN. I WANT TO TURN 00:12:05.900 --> 00:12:07.758 COULD SHUT DOWN. I WANT TO TURN TO TY COBB, THOUGH, ON THIS 00:12:07.769 --> 00:12:09.769 TO TY COBB, THOUGH, ON THIS TOPIC. TY, I WANT TO START OFF 00:12:09.804 --> 00:12:12.062 TOPIC. TY, I WANT TO START OFF BY JUST AS SOMEONE WHO IS A 00:12:12.073 --> 00:12:13.930 BY JUST AS SOMEONE WHO IS A STUDENT OF THE LAW, SOMEONE WHO 00:12:13.941 --> 00:12:17.000 STUDENT OF THE LAW, SOMEONE WHO IS STEEPED IN THE LAW. GET YOUR 00:12:17.011 --> 00:12:18.945 IS STEEPED IN THE LAW. GET YOUR REACTION TO HEARING THAT ABC 00:12:18.946 --> 00:12:20.613 REACTION TO HEARING THAT ABC HAD INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED 00:12:20.614 --> 00:12:23.082 HAD INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED JIMMY KIMMEL. 00:12:23.117 --> 00:12:24.341 JIMMY KIMMEL. >> WELL, I THINK. 00:12:24.352 --> 00:12:25.051 >> WELL, I THINK. >> KRISTEN. 00:12:25.052 --> 00:12:27.010 >> KRISTEN. >> THAT IT’S. EVOCATIVE OF WHAT 00:12:27.021 --> 00:12:29.613 >> THAT IT’S. EVOCATIVE OF WHAT WE’VE. SEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY. 00:12:29.624 --> 00:12:31.215 WE’VE. SEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY. I MEAN, IN 1939, DOCTOR 00:12:31.226 --> 00:12:31.815 I MEAN, IN 1939, DOCTOR GOEBBELS, 00:12:31.826 --> 00:12:33.560 GOEBBELS, >> HITLER’S. 00:12:33.561 --> 00:12:36.520 >> HITLER’S. >> INSTRUCTION. REMOVED FIVE 00:12:36.531 --> 00:12:36.797 >> INSTRUCTION. REMOVED FIVE COMEDIANS. 00:12:36.831 --> 00:12:38.422 COMEDIANS. >> OR WITTICISMS. 00:12:38.433 --> 00:12:39.832 >> OR WITTICISMS. >> AS THEY WERE CALLED. 00:12:39.834 --> 00:12:42.192 >> AS THEY WERE CALLED. >> AT THE TIME, FROM. 00:12:42.203 --> 00:12:43.303 >> AT THE TIME, FROM. >> THE AIRWAVES. 00:12:43.337 --> 00:12:45.795 >> THE AIRWAVES. >> IN GERMANY, AND FOR 00:12:45.806 --> 00:12:48.341 >> IN GERMANY, AND FOR CRITICIZING OR MAKING FUN. 00:12:48.342 --> 00:12:48.641 CRITICIZING OR MAKING FUN. >> OF. 00:12:48.643 --> 00:12:52.312 >> OF. >> THE GOVERNMENT AND A. SATIRE 00:12:52.346 --> 00:12:55.872 >> THE GOVERNMENT AND A. SATIRE WAY. PUTIN. WHEN HE TOOK OVER 00:12:55.883 --> 00:12:57.174 WAY. PUTIN. WHEN HE TOOK OVER IN THE EARLY 2000, ONE OF THE. 00:12:57.185 --> 00:12:59.219 IN THE EARLY 2000, ONE OF THE. >> FIRST THINGS HE DID WAS. 00:12:59.253 --> 00:13:00.877 >> FIRST THINGS HE DID WAS. >> SYSTEMATICALLY VIOLENCE. 00:13:00.888 --> 00:13:02.689 >> SYSTEMATICALLY VIOLENCE. CRITICAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND 00:13:02.690 --> 00:13:04.848 CRITICAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND INDEPENDENT TV CHANNELS WERE 00:13:04.859 --> 00:13:05.082 INDEPENDENT TV CHANNELS WERE BOUGHT. 00:13:05.093 --> 00:13:06.150 BOUGHT. >> OUT OR SHUT DOWN. 00:13:06.161 --> 00:13:08.361 >> OUT OR SHUT DOWN. >> YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS WAGING. 00:13:08.363 --> 00:13:10.130 >> YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS WAGING. >> WAR ON PEOPLE WHO. 00:13:10.164 --> 00:13:11.187 >> WAR ON PEOPLE WHO. >> OFFEND HIM. 00:13:11.198 --> 00:13:13.266 >> OFFEND HIM. >> YOU KNOW. HE’S ALL ABOUT 00:13:13.268 --> 00:13:13.834 >> YOU KNOW. HE’S ALL ABOUT VENGEANCE. 00:13:13.868 --> 00:13:14.968 VENGEANCE. >> AND SADLY. 00:13:14.969 --> 00:13:15.659 >> AND SADLY. >> HIS SUBORDINATES. 00:13:15.670 --> 00:13:18.071 >> HIS SUBORDINATES. >> LIKE ONE OF THE. 00:13:18.072 --> 00:13:20.964 >> LIKE ONE OF THE. >> PROJECT 2025 AUTHORS, 00:13:20.975 --> 00:13:23.500 >> PROJECT 2025 AUTHORS, BRANDON CARR OF THE. 00:13:23.511 --> 00:13:23.944 BRANDON CARR OF THE. >> FCC. 00:13:23.978 --> 00:13:26.179 >> FCC. >> ARE FOLLOWING IN LINE. 00:13:26.181 --> 00:13:26.771 >> ARE FOLLOWING IN LINE. >> AND. 00:13:26.782 --> 00:13:28.605 >> AND. >> YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THE 00:13:28.616 --> 00:13:29.883 >> YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THE PRESIDENTIAL CRIMES COMMISSION 00:13:29.884 --> 00:13:32.018 PRESIDENTIAL CRIMES COMMISSION THAT REPRESENTATIVE. SWALWELL 00:13:32.020 --> 00:13:33.454 THAT REPRESENTATIVE. SWALWELL CALLED FOR RECENTLY. 00:13:33.488 --> 00:13:34.845 CALLED FOR RECENTLY. >> CAN CONSIDER THIS. 00:13:34.856 --> 00:13:35.956 >> CAN CONSIDER THIS. >> AT THE END OF THIS 00:13:35.990 --> 00:13:36.913 >> AT THE END OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. 00:13:36.924 --> 00:13:37.624 ADMINISTRATION. >> BUT THESE PEOPLE. 00:13:37.625 --> 00:13:40.293 >> BUT THESE PEOPLE. >> ARE, YOU KNOW, ABANDONING 00:13:40.295 --> 00:13:41.919 >> ARE, YOU KNOW, ABANDONING OUR. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND 00:13:41.930 --> 00:13:43.697 OUR. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND OUR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS. 00:13:43.698 --> 00:13:44.831 OUR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS. >> EVEN SENATOR. 00:13:44.833 --> 00:13:46.033 >> EVEN SENATOR. >> LOOMIS TODAY. BY SAYING SHE 00:13:46.034 --> 00:13:48.092 >> LOOMIS TODAY. BY SAYING SHE DOESN’T FEEL LIKE ENFORCING. 00:13:48.103 --> 00:13:49.794 DOESN’T FEEL LIKE ENFORCING. >> THE FIRST AMENDMENT. 00:13:49.805 --> 00:13:51.295 >> THE FIRST AMENDMENT. >> AT THIS. 00:13:51.306 --> 00:13:52.339 >> AT THIS. >> POINT, DESPITE HAVING. 00:13:52.340 --> 00:13:54.398 >> POINT, DESPITE HAVING. >> YOU KNOW, LIKED IT WHEN IT 00:13:54.409 --> 00:13:56.677 >> YOU KNOW, LIKED IT WHEN IT WHEN IT SUITED HER. THAT’S A 00:13:56.711 --> 00:13:56.967 WHEN IT SUITED HER. THAT’S A VIOLATION. 00:13:56.978 --> 00:13:57.835 VIOLATION. >> OF HER. 00:13:57.846 --> 00:13:59.947 >> OF HER. >> OATH OF OFFICE, WHERE SHE 00:13:59.948 --> 00:14:01.182 >> OATH OF OFFICE, WHERE SHE TAKES AN OATH TO PRESERVE. 00:14:01.216 --> 00:14:01.806 TAKES AN OATH TO PRESERVE. >> AND. 00:14:01.817 --> 00:14:02.874 >> AND. >> PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. 00:14:02.885 --> 00:14:04.151 >> PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. >> SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY 00:14:04.152 --> 00:14:05.643 >> SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY TRAGIC. AND I. 00:14:05.654 --> 00:14:06.888 TRAGIC. AND I. >> THINK, AS CARR SAID. 00:14:06.922 --> 00:14:07.945 >> THINK, AS CARR SAID. >> YESTERDAY. 00:14:07.956 --> 00:14:08.246 >> YESTERDAY. >> THERE WILL. 00:14:08.257 --> 00:14:09.747 >> THERE WILL. >> BE MORE SHOES TO DROP. 00:14:09.758 --> 00:14:10.891 >> BE MORE SHOES TO DROP. >> I THINK WE CAN COUNT. 00:14:10.926 --> 00:14:12.283 >> I THINK WE CAN COUNT. >> ON THAT. 00:14:12.294 --> 00:14:13.260 >> ON THAT. >> THIS WILL BE. 00:14:13.261 --> 00:14:14.461 >> THIS WILL BE. >> THREE AND A HALF. 00:14:14.463 --> 00:14:15.463 >> THREE AND A HALF. >> MORE YEARS. 00:14:15.464 --> 00:14:16.564 >> MORE YEARS. >> OF VENGEANCE. 00:14:16.565 --> 00:14:17.999 >> OF VENGEANCE. >> WELL, THAT’S A PRETTY DIRE 00:14:18.033 --> 00:14:20.091 >> WELL, THAT’S A PRETTY DIRE PICTURE. YOU’RE PAINTING TY. 00:14:20.102 --> 00:14:21.835 PICTURE. YOU’RE PAINTING TY. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU 00:14:21.837 --> 00:14:24.162 AND I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, DO YOU SEE ANY GUARDRAILS? 00:14:24.173 --> 00:14:26.907 IS, DO YOU SEE ANY GUARDRAILS? IS THERE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT 00:14:26.942 --> 00:14:30.945 IS THERE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT THAT COULD PREVENT THE FCC FROM 00:14:30.946 --> 00:14:32.770 THAT COULD PREVENT THE FCC FROM CRACKING DOWN ON OTHER MEDIA 00:14:32.781 --> 00:14:34.716 CRACKING DOWN ON OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS? AS YOU HEARD, 00:14:34.750 --> 00:14:36.050 OUTLETS? AS YOU HEARD, PRESIDENT TRUMP WARNED COULD 00:14:36.051 --> 00:14:37.708 PRESIDENT TRUMP WARNED COULD HAPPEN. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS? 00:14:37.719 --> 00:14:38.920 HAPPEN. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS? >> SO I THINK. 00:14:38.954 --> 00:14:39.911 >> SO I THINK. >> LET’S TAKE. 00:14:39.922 --> 00:14:40.745 >> LET’S TAKE. >> THE PRESIDENT’S STATEMENT 00:14:40.756 --> 00:14:42.790 >> THE PRESIDENT’S STATEMENT ABOUT REVOKING THE LICENSES TO 00:14:42.791 --> 00:14:44.048 ABOUT REVOKING THE LICENSES TO THE NETWORKS. THERE ARE NO 00:14:44.059 --> 00:14:44.949 THE NETWORKS. THERE ARE NO LICENSES. 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:45.159 LICENSES. >> TO. 00:14:45.160 --> 00:14:46.360 >> TO. >> THE NETWORKS. THAT’S HOW 00:14:46.362 --> 00:14:47.362 >> THE NETWORKS. THAT’S HOW LITTLE HE KNOWS ABOUT. 00:14:47.363 --> 00:14:49.030 LITTLE HE KNOWS ABOUT. >> THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT WORKS. 00:14:49.064 --> 00:14:51.756 >> THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT WORKS. >> BUT I THINK. YOU’LL SEE THE 00:14:51.767 --> 00:14:52.967 >> BUT I THINK. YOU’LL SEE THE FCC CRACKING DOWN. I THINK 00:14:52.968 --> 00:14:53.858 FCC CRACKING DOWN. I THINK YOU’LL SEE MORE THREATS OF THE 00:14:53.869 --> 00:14:55.069 YOU’LL SEE MORE THREATS OF THE TYPE THAT THEY’VE USED 00:14:55.070 --> 00:14:56.594 TYPE THAT THEY’VE USED SUCCESSFULLY. I MEAN, PRETTY 00:14:56.605 --> 00:14:57.796 SUCCESSFULLY. I MEAN, PRETTY SOON THE ONLY COMEDIAN LEFT 00:14:57.807 --> 00:14:59.497 SOON THE ONLY COMEDIAN LEFT STANDING IS GOING TO BE 00:14:59.508 --> 00:15:00.908 STANDING IS GOING TO BE CAROLINE LEAVITT. I THINK IT’S 00:15:00.910 --> 00:15:03.578 CAROLINE LEAVITT. I THINK IT’S I THINK IT’S REALLY DIFFICULT 00:15:03.579 --> 00:15:06.271 I THINK IT’S REALLY DIFFICULT IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE FOUNDERS 00:15:06.282 --> 00:15:09.050 IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE FOUNDERS CREATED THREE BRANCHES OF 00:15:09.084 --> 00:15:11.642 CREATED THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF 00:15:11.653 --> 00:15:13.020 GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF WHOM HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TRY 00:15:13.022 --> 00:15:15.323 WHOM HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TRY TO PREVENT THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, 00:15:15.324 --> 00:15:15.890 TO PREVENT THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, FROM GETTING OUT OF BOUNDS. 00:15:15.891 --> 00:15:17.859 FROM GETTING OUT OF BOUNDS. WE’VE GOT A SITUATION NOW WHERE 00:15:17.893 --> 00:15:19.050 WE’VE GOT A SITUATION NOW WHERE CONGRESS IS NEUTERED ITSELF 00:15:19.061 --> 00:15:21.696 CONGRESS IS NEUTERED ITSELF THROUGH. ITS COWARDICE. AND THE 00:15:21.697 --> 00:15:24.265 THROUGH. ITS COWARDICE. AND THE ONLY THE ONLY BAR TO, YOU KNOW, 00:15:24.300 --> 00:15:26.701 ONLY THE ONLY BAR TO, YOU KNOW, TRUMP’S AUTHORITARIAN INSTINCTS 00:15:26.702 --> 00:15:28.826 TRUMP’S AUTHORITARIAN INSTINCTS IS THE COURTS. AND THE COURTS 00:15:28.837 --> 00:15:29.804 IS THE COURTS. AND THE COURTS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A LITTLE 00:15:29.805 --> 00:15:32.006 ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BECAUSE THAT’S THE 00:15:32.008 --> 00:15:33.599 BIT BEHIND, BECAUSE THAT’S THE WAY THEY’RE STRUCTURED. AND IT 00:15:33.610 --> 00:15:36.034 WAY THEY’RE STRUCTURED. AND IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. 00:15:36.045 --> 00:15:37.879 MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. >> YOU KNOW, TY HAD THAT 00:15:37.914 --> 00:15:40.038 >> YOU KNOW, TY HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH 00:15:40.049 --> 00:15:41.807 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH GOVERNOR SHAPIRO EARLIER TODAY, 00:15:41.818 --> 00:15:42.817 GOVERNOR SHAPIRO EARLIER TODAY, AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT HE 00:15:42.818 --> 00:15:44.819 AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT HE MADE WAS IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS, 00:15:44.820 --> 00:15:45.920 MADE WAS IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS, WHETHER IT BE THE VICE 00:15:45.922 --> 00:15:47.856 WHETHER IT BE THE VICE PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 00:15:47.857 --> 00:15:48.690 PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT TRUMP IN HIS SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS, 00:15:48.724 --> 00:15:50.882 HIS SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS, TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO 00:15:50.893 --> 00:15:53.018 TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, 00:15:53.029 --> 00:15:55.821 PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO STOMP 00:15:55.832 --> 00:15:57.866 TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO STOMP OUT SO-CALLED CANCEL CULTURE. 00:15:57.867 --> 00:15:59.825 OUT SO-CALLED CANCEL CULTURE. AND THIS REALLY FLIES IN THE 00:15:59.836 --> 00:16:01.970 AND THIS REALLY FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT. YOU HAVE WORKED 00:16:01.971 --> 00:16:04.339 FACE OF THAT. YOU HAVE WORKED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BASED ON 00:16:04.340 --> 00:16:05.607 WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BASED ON YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH HIM. HOW 00:16:05.641 --> 00:16:07.842 YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH HIM. HOW DO YOU THINK HE VIEWS AT THE 00:16:07.844 --> 00:16:09.501 DO YOU THINK HE VIEWS AT THE TIME THAT YOU WORKED WITH HIM, 00:16:09.512 --> 00:16:10.612 TIME THAT YOU WORKED WITH HIM, THESE PROTECTIONS? IS THERE A 00:16:10.647 --> 00:16:12.872 THESE PROTECTIONS? IS THERE A SHIFT GOING ON, OR HAS THIS 00:16:12.883 --> 00:16:14.783 SHIFT GOING ON, OR HAS THIS ALWAYS BEEN HIS PERSPECTIVE? 00:16:14.784 --> 00:16:17.376 ALWAYS BEEN HIS PERSPECTIVE? >> NO, I THINK CONSISTENCY IS 00:16:17.387 --> 00:16:19.645 >> NO, I THINK CONSISTENCY IS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT 00:16:19.656 --> 00:16:22.548 IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS KNOWN FOR. AND HE 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.728 TRUMP IS KNOWN FOR. AND HE ALWAYS FAVORS WHATEVER ENRICHES 00:16:25.762 --> 00:16:29.064 ALWAYS FAVORS WHATEVER ENRICHES HIM OR FLATTERS HIM. AND IN 00:16:29.065 --> 00:16:30.856 HIM OR FLATTERS HIM. AND IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, HE WAS 00:16:30.867 --> 00:16:32.024 THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, HE WAS GREATLY ENRICHED. IF HE CAN 00:16:32.035 --> 00:16:34.793 GREATLY ENRICHED. IF HE CAN SILENCE HIS CRITICS BECAUSE HE 00:16:34.804 --> 00:16:37.296 SILENCE HIS CRITICS BECAUSE HE HAS, YOU KNOW, FREE REIN AT 00:16:37.307 --> 00:16:38.641 HAS, YOU KNOW, FREE REIN AT THAT STAGE OF THE GAME. SO I 00:16:38.675 --> 00:16:39.932 THAT STAGE OF THE GAME. SO I DON’T I DON’T BELIEVE THAT THIS 00:16:39.943 --> 00:16:42.010 DON’T I DON’T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY 00:16:42.012 --> 00:16:42.845 IS, YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY PHILOSOPHICAL. THIS IS ALL 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.471 PHILOSOPHICAL. THIS IS ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS INTEREST 00:16:45.482 --> 00:16:48.407 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS INTEREST IN, IN POWER AND DOMINATION. 00:16:48.418 --> 00:16:50.877 IN, IN POWER AND DOMINATION. >> DO YOU THINK, TY, THAT THE 00:16:50.888 --> 00:16:51.777 >> DO YOU THINK, TY, THAT THE COMPANY IS ACTUALLY HEADED 00:16:51.788 --> 00:16:54.156 COMPANY IS ACTUALLY HEADED TOWARD A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? 00:16:54.190 --> 00:16:56.882 TOWARD A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? >> I THINK WE’RE THERE. I THINK. 00:16:56.893 --> 00:16:58.550 >> I THINK WE’RE THERE. I THINK. >> YOU THINK THE COUNTRY IS 00:16:58.561 --> 00:16:59.928 >> YOU THINK THE COUNTRY IS HEADED TOWARD A CONSTITUTIONAL 00:16:59.930 --> 00:17:00.263 HEADED TOWARD A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. SORRY. 00:17:00.297 --> 00:17:01.788 CRISIS. SORRY. >> YES, I THINK WE I THINK 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.822 >> YES, I THINK WE I THINK WE’RE I THINK WE’RE ALREADY 00:17:03.833 --> 00:17:06.001 WE’RE I THINK WE’RE ALREADY THERE. 00:17:06.002 --> 00:17:09.037 THERE. >> AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.774 >> AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR? DO YOU HAVE ANY 00:17:11.808 --> 00:17:13.132 WATCHING FOR? DO YOU HAVE ANY OPTIMISM THAT THE COUNTRY WILL 00:17:13.143 --> 00:17:14.801 OPTIMISM THAT THE COUNTRY WILL FIND ITS WAY THROUGH THIS 00:17:14.812 --> 00:17:17.603 FIND ITS WAY THROUGH THIS MOMENT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS IT 00:17:17.614 --> 00:17:19.782 MOMENT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE STRONGER THAN BEFORE, AS 00:17:19.816 --> 00:17:22.041 TO BE STRONGER THAN BEFORE, AS QUITE FRANKLY, HISTORY HAS TOLD 00:17:22.052 --> 00:17:24.387 QUITE FRANKLY, HISTORY HAS TOLD US IT HAS DONE SO MANY TIMES IN 00:17:24.421 --> 00:17:24.820 US IT HAS DONE SO MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. 00:17:24.821 --> 00:17:26.178 THE PAST. >> I HOPE THAT’S THE CASE. 00:17:26.189 --> 00:17:27.156 >> I HOPE THAT’S THE CASE. >> I THINK. 00:17:27.157 --> 00:17:28.724 >> I THINK. >> IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A 00:17:28.725 --> 00:17:30.659 >> IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A GENERATION FOR THE COUNTRY TO 00:17:30.661 --> 00:17:32.295 GENERATION FOR THE COUNTRY TO REGAIN THE FREEDOMS THAT WE 00:17:32.329 --> 00:17:36.332 REGAIN THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOYED NINE MONTHS AGO. 00:17:36.333 --> 00:17:38.891 ENJOYED NINE MONTHS AGO. >> A GENERATION. TY. 00:17:38.902 --> 00:17:40.236 >> A GENERATION. TY. >> YES. 00:17:40.237 --> 00:17:41.003 >> YES. >> THAT’S PRETTY STARK. 00:17:41.038 --> 00:17:43.263 >> THAT’S PRETTY STARK. >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF MAGA 00:17:43.274 --> 00:17:44.640 >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF MAGA PEOPLE IN CONGRESS. YOU HAVE A 00:17:44.641 --> 00:17:47.109 PEOPLE IN CONGRESS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF MAGA JUDGES. YOU HAVE A 00:17:47.144 --> 00:17:49.636 LOT OF MAGA JUDGES. YOU HAVE A LOT OF APPOINTEES. TRUMP IS 00:17:49.647 --> 00:17:51.770 LOT OF APPOINTEES. TRUMP IS POPULATING WHAT HE CALLS THE 00:17:51.781 --> 00:17:53.049 POPULATING WHAT HE CALLS THE DEEP STATE WITH LOYALISTS AS 00:17:53.050 --> 00:17:55.318 DEEP STATE WITH LOYALISTS AS OPPOSED TO QUALIFIED PEOPLE. 00:17:55.352 --> 00:17:57.653 OPPOSED TO QUALIFIED PEOPLE. IT’S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO 00:17:57.655 --> 00:17:59.756 IT’S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO ROOT THAT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, 00:17:59.757 --> 00:18:01.758 ROOT THAT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO A SITUATION WHERE 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.451 GET BACK TO A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD ASPIRATIONAL, VIRTUOUS, 00:18:04.462 --> 00:18:06.118 WE HAD ASPIRATIONAL, VIRTUOUS, INTELLIGENT PEOPLE IN THOSE 00:18:06.129 --> 00:18:07.330 INTELLIGENT PEOPLE IN THOSE JOBS. 00:18:07.364 --> 00:18:08.888 JOBS. >> HOW DO YOU SEE THE 00:18:08.899 --> 00:18:10.967 >> HOW DO YOU SEE THE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS PLAYING 00:18:10.968 --> 00:18:12.902 CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS PLAYING OUT, TY? AND YOU SAY, WE’RE 00:18:12.903 --> 00:18:14.794 OUT, TY? AND YOU SAY, WE’RE ALREADY THERE. WHAT MAKES YOU 00:18:14.805 --> 00:18:16.005 ALREADY THERE. WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE 00:18:16.006 --> 00:18:17.797 FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE COUNTRY’S ALREADY IN A 00:18:17.808 --> 00:18:18.765 COUNTRY’S ALREADY IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? 00:18:18.776 --> 00:18:20.667 CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? >> WELL, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, 00:18:20.678 --> 00:18:22.946 >> WELL, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ABDICATION OF CONGRESS 00:18:22.980 --> 00:18:26.039 THE THE ABDICATION OF CONGRESS OF ANY ROLE OR RESPONSIBILITY 00:18:26.050 --> 00:18:28.608 OF ANY ROLE OR RESPONSIBILITY IN, IN WHAT’S GOING ON IN 00:18:28.619 --> 00:18:30.577 IN, IN WHAT’S GOING ON IN AMERICA OTHER THAN TO RUBBER 00:18:30.588 --> 00:18:33.557 AMERICA OTHER THAN TO RUBBER STAMP THE PRESIDENT’S, YOU KNOW, 00:18:33.591 --> 00:18:35.792 STAMP THE PRESIDENT’S, YOU KNOW, AUTHORITARIAN EFFORTS. I THINK 00:18:35.793 --> 00:18:39.319 AUTHORITARIAN EFFORTS. I THINK THAT IS I THINK THAT IS 00:18:39.330 --> 00:18:41.165 THAT IS I THINK THAT IS DEVASTATING TO THE COUNTRY. AND 00:18:41.198 --> 00:18:43.299 DEVASTATING TO THE COUNTRY. AND CLEARLY RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL 00:18:43.301 --> 00:18:44.725 CLEARLY RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS THAT THE FOUNDERS 00:18:44.736 --> 00:18:46.293 CONCERNS THAT THE FOUNDERS HADN’T CONTEMPLATED. I THINK 00:18:46.304 --> 00:18:47.628 HADN’T CONTEMPLATED. I THINK THE FOUNDERS ASSUMED THAT 00:18:47.639 --> 00:18:48.895 THE FOUNDERS ASSUMED THAT PEOPLE WHO TOOK AN OATH OF 00:18:48.906 --> 00:18:50.530 PEOPLE WHO TOOK AN OATH OF OFFICE TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT 00:18:50.541 --> 00:18:52.032 OFFICE TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION WOULD ACTUALLY 00:18:52.043 --> 00:18:54.935 THE CONSTITUTION WOULD ACTUALLY DO SO, AS OPPOSED TO FLOUNDER 00:18:54.946 --> 00:18:56.904 DO SO, AS OPPOSED TO FLOUNDER LIKE THEY ARE NOW. 00:18:56.915 --> 00:18:59.806 LIKE THEY ARE NOW. >> YOU KNOW, TY, YOU AND I 00:18:59.817 --> 00:19:01.651 >> YOU KNOW, TY, YOU AND I TALKED A LOT DURING THE FIRST 00:19:01.652 --> 00:19:03.810 TALKED A LOT DURING THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHEN YOU 00:19:03.821 --> 00:19:04.954 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHEN YOU SERVED THE PRESIDENT THEN, AND 00:19:04.956 --> 00:19:05.789 SERVED THE PRESIDENT THEN, AND YOU ALWAYS MADE IT VERY CLEAR 00:19:05.823 --> 00:19:08.224 YOU ALWAYS MADE IT VERY CLEAR YOU WERE SERVING THE OFFICE OF 00:19:08.226 --> 00:19:10.084 YOU WERE SERVING THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. DO YOU HAVE ANY 00:19:10.095 --> 00:19:15.299 THE PRESIDENCY. DO YOU HAVE ANY REGRETS ABOUT YOUR TIME THERE? 00:19:15.333 --> 00:19:18.735 REGRETS ABOUT YOUR TIME THERE? >> NO, I DON’T HAVE ANY REGRETS 00:19:18.736 --> 00:19:20.937 >> NO, I DON’T HAVE ANY REGRETS ABOUT MY TIME THERE. YOU KNOW, 00:19:20.939 --> 00:19:23.297 ABOUT MY TIME THERE. YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I’M 00:19:23.308 --> 00:19:25.842 I YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I’M THE OLDEST OF EIGHT KIDS FROM A 00:19:25.843 --> 00:19:27.577 THE OLDEST OF EIGHT KIDS FROM A SMALL TOWN IN KANSAS, AND MY 00:19:27.579 --> 00:19:29.213 SMALL TOWN IN KANSAS, AND MY DAD WAS A NAVAL FIGHTER PILOT. 00:19:29.247 --> 00:19:30.871 DAD WAS A NAVAL FIGHTER PILOT. AND I ALWAYS BELIEVED IF THE 00:19:30.882 --> 00:19:31.739 AND I ALWAYS BELIEVED IF THE PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO SERVE, 00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:33.717 PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, YOU SERVED. I THINK 00:19:33.751 --> 00:19:35.151 YOU KNOW, YOU SERVED. I THINK BAD PRESIDENTS DESERVE MORE 00:19:35.153 --> 00:19:35.976 BAD PRESIDENTS DESERVE MORE HELP, FRANKLY, THAN GOOD 00:19:35.987 --> 00:19:37.721 HELP, FRANKLY, THAN GOOD PRESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT’S 00:19:37.756 --> 00:19:40.014 PRESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT’S DIFFICULT TO TO POPULATE THOSE 00:19:40.025 --> 00:19:43.250 DIFFICULT TO TO POPULATE THOSE OFFICES AS WE’RE NOW SEEING. 00:19:43.261 --> 00:19:45.586 OFFICES AS WE’RE NOW SEEING. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DIFFICULT. 00:19:45.597 --> 00:19:48.799 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DIFFICULT. BUT I WAS I WAS PROUD TO SERVE 00:19:48.800 --> 00:19:51.659 BUT I WAS I WAS PROUD TO SERVE AND PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY. 00:19:51.670 --> 00:19:54.896 AND PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY. >> TY COBB, AS ALWAYS, YOUR 00:19:54.907 --> 00:19:55.863 >> TY COBB, AS ALWAYS, YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS SO MEANINGFUL. 00:19:55.874 --> 00:19:57.808 PERSPECTIVE IS SO MEANINGFUL. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR 00:19:57.809 --> 00:19:59.300 AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR JOINING US TODAY TO GIVE US 00:19:59.311 --> 00:19:59.844 JOINING US TODAY TO GIVE US YOUR INSIGHTS. 00:19:59.878 --> 00:20:01.702 YOUR INSIGHTS. >> THANK YOU. KRISTEN, GREAT TO 00:20:01.713 --> 00:20:03.614 >> THANK YOU. KRISTEN, GREAT TO BE WITH YOU ALWAYS. 00:20:03.615 --> 00:20:06.383 BE WITH YOU ALWAYS. >> GREAT TO HAVE YOU. TY. 00:20:06.384 --> 00:20:07.007 >> GREAT TO HAVE YOU. TY. PLEASE COME BACK SOON. MEL, LET 00:20:07.018 --> 00:20:10.020 PLEASE COME BACK SOON. MEL, LET ME GO BACK TO YOU ON CAPITOL 00:20:10.021 --> 00:20:12.956 ME GO BACK TO YOU ON CAPITOL HILL BECAUSE YOU ARE WATCHING A 00:20:12.991 --> 00:20:14.849 HILL BECAUSE YOU ARE WATCHING A CRISIS OF A VERY DIFFERENT KIND. 00:20:14.860 --> 00:20:17.261 CRISIS OF A VERY DIFFERENT KIND. THE SENATE JUST VOTED TO 00:20:17.295 --> 00:20:17.918 THE SENATE JUST VOTED TO BASICALLY BLOCK PROPOSALS FROM 00:20:17.929 --> 00:20:20.121 BASICALLY BLOCK PROPOSALS FROM BOTH PARTIES THAT WOULD KEEP 00:20:20.132 --> 00:20:23.067 BOTH PARTIES THAT WOULD KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN, AS I 00:20:23.101 --> 00:20:23.824 THE GOVERNMENT OPEN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. CORRECT ME IF 00:20:23.835 --> 00:20:26.537 UNDERSTAND IT. CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG. THE KEY STICKING 00:20:26.538 --> 00:20:28.873 I’M WRONG. THE KEY STICKING POINTS ARE OPPOSITION TO CUTS 00:20:28.907 --> 00:20:30.965 POINTS ARE OPPOSITION TO CUTS TO MEDICARE. AND OF COURSE, 00:20:30.976 --> 00:20:32.801 TO MEDICARE. AND OF COURSE, THEY WANT SUBSIDIES TO BE 00:20:32.812 --> 00:20:35.746 THEY WANT SUBSIDIES TO BE INCLUDED FOR OBAMACARE. WHAT IS 00:20:35.747 --> 00:20:37.948 INCLUDED FOR OBAMACARE. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NOW? IS THE 00:20:37.950 --> 00:20:39.584 GOING TO HAPPEN NOW? IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO SHUT DOWN 00:20:39.618 --> 00:20:40.718 GOVERNMENT GOING TO SHUT DOWN AND DID I MISS ANYTHING? 00:20:40.719 --> 00:20:41.842 AND DID I MISS ANYTHING? >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION, 00:20:41.853 --> 00:20:43.044 >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION, KRISTEN. I’M NOT SURE THAT THE 00:20:43.055 --> 00:20:44.522 KRISTEN. I’M NOT SURE THAT THE LEADERSHIP ACTUALLY EVEN KNOWS 00:20:44.523 --> 00:20:45.690 LEADERSHIP ACTUALLY EVEN KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. 00:20:45.724 --> 00:20:46.981 THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THEY ARE BARRELING TOWARDS A 00:20:46.992 --> 00:20:48.960 THEY ARE BARRELING TOWARDS A SHUTDOWN WITH NO OFFRAMP IN 00:20:48.961 --> 00:20:50.018 SHUTDOWN WITH NO OFFRAMP IN SIGHT AT THE MOMENT. AND THAT’S 00:20:50.029 --> 00:20:52.596 SIGHT AT THE MOMENT. AND THAT’S REALLY FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, 00:20:52.631 --> 00:20:53.688 REALLY FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, LOGISTICS. BOTH CHAMBERS ARE 00:20:53.699 --> 00:20:55.432 LOGISTICS. BOTH CHAMBERS ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF SESSION NEXT 00:20:55.434 --> 00:20:56.958 GOING TO BE OUT OF SESSION NEXT WEEK FOR THE JEWISH HOLIDAY, 00:20:56.969 --> 00:20:57.859 WEEK FOR THE JEWISH HOLIDAY, AND THE HOUSE EVEN JUST DECIDED 00:20:57.870 --> 00:20:59.661 AND THE HOUSE EVEN JUST DECIDED THAT THEY’RE NOT GOING TO COME 00:20:59.672 --> 00:21:01.005 THAT THEY’RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK UNTIL AFTER THE GOVERNMENT 00:21:01.040 --> 00:21:02.097 BACK UNTIL AFTER THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING DEADLINE. SO IN SOME 00:21:02.108 --> 00:21:02.840 FUNDING DEADLINE. SO IN SOME WAYS, JUST CONCEDING THAT 00:21:02.841 --> 00:21:04.709 WAYS, JUST CONCEDING THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE A SHUTDOWN 00:21:04.743 --> 00:21:06.601 THERE’S GOING TO BE A SHUTDOWN OF SOME LENGTH. AND NUMBER TWO, 00:21:06.612 --> 00:21:08.145 OF SOME LENGTH. AND NUMBER TWO, POLITICS, DEMOCRATS FEEL 00:21:08.147 --> 00:21:08.813 POLITICS, DEMOCRATS FEEL COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE VOTING 00:21:08.847 --> 00:21:10.371 COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE VOTING AGAINST THESE REPUBLICAN 00:21:10.382 --> 00:21:11.115 AGAINST THESE REPUBLICAN PROPOSALS TO KEEP THE 00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:12.741 PROPOSALS TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN. THEY WANT TO 00:21:12.752 --> 00:21:14.976 GOVERNMENT OPEN. THEY WANT TO STAND UP TO TRUMP. WHILE 00:21:14.987 --> 00:21:16.254 STAND UP TO TRUMP. WHILE REPUBLICANS FEEL CONFIDENT THAT 00:21:16.255 --> 00:21:17.021 REPUBLICANS FEEL CONFIDENT THAT DEMOCRATS ARE ULTIMATELY GOING 00:21:17.056 --> 00:21:19.080 DEMOCRATS ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO GET THE BLAME FOR A SHUTDOWN. 00:21:19.091 --> 00:21:20.682 TO GET THE BLAME FOR A SHUTDOWN. SO THAT’S WHERE WE’RE AT. OF 00:21:20.693 --> 00:21:21.893 SO THAT’S WHERE WE’RE AT. OF COURSE, THINGS CAN CHANGE 00:21:21.894 --> 00:21:22.994 COURSE, THINGS CAN CHANGE PRETTY QUICKLY HERE ON CAPITOL 00:21:22.995 --> 00:21:25.053 PRETTY QUICKLY HERE ON CAPITOL HILL, BUT SOMETHING IS GOING TO 00:21:25.064 --> 00:21:27.098 HILL, BUT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:28.433 HAVE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY 00:21:28.467 --> 00:21:30.058 WEEK OR SO IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY AVOID A SHUTDOWN. KRISTEN. 00:21:30.069 --> 00:21:31.793 AVOID A SHUTDOWN. KRISTEN. >> ALL RIGHT. MEL ZANONA 00:21:31.804 --> 00:21:33.872 >> ALL RIGHT. MEL ZANONA COVERING A LOT OF GROUND FOR US 00:21:33.873 --> 00:21:34.763 COVERING A LOT OF GROUND FOR US ON THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WE 00:21:34.774 --> 00:21:36.908 ON THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK 00:21:36.909 --> 00:21:38.943 GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND COMING UP, 00:21:38.978 --> 00:21:39.835 YOU SO MUCH. AND COMING UP, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA 00:21:39.846 --> 00:21:42.013 FORMER VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS NAMES NAMES IN HER NEW 00:21:42.014 --> 00:21:44.048 HARRIS NAMES NAMES IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT HER SPRINT LIKE 00:21:44.083 --> 00:21:44.739 BOOK ABOUT HER SPRINT LIKE CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT, 00:21:44.750 --> 00:21:46.051 CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT, CRITICIZING SEVERAL HIGH 00:21:46.085 --> 00:21:48.009 CRITICIZING SEVERAL HIGH PROFILE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOW 00:21:48.020 --> 00:21:49.878 PROFILE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOW POTENTIAL 2020 CONTENDERS. WE 00:21:49.889 --> 00:21:51.580 POTENTIAL 2020 CONTENDERS. WE WILL DIG INTO THE REVELATIONS 00:21:51.591 --> 00:21:54.383 WILL DIG INTO THE REVELATIONS AND THE REACTIONS. PLUS, HEALTH 00:21:54.394 --> 00:21:55.793 AND THE REACTIONS. PLUS, HEALTH SECRETARY KENNEDY’S HAND-PICKED 00:21:55.795 --> 00:21:57.419 SECRETARY KENNEDY’S HAND-PICKED VACCINE ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST 00:21:57.430 --> 00:22:00.265 VACCINE ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST DECLINED TO RECOMMEND THE COVID 00:22:00.299 --> 00:22:02.123 DECLINED TO RECOMMEND THE COVID VACCINE IN WHAT COULD BE THE 00:22:02.134 --> 00:22:03.868 VACCINE IN WHAT COULD BE THE START OF A MAJOR OVERHAUL OF 00:22:03.903 --> 00:22:04.926 START OF A MAJOR OVERHAUL OF VACCINE POLICY IN AMERICA. 00:22:04.937 --> 00:22:06.838 VACCINE POLICY IN AMERICA. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:08.840 WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE MEET THE PRESS NOW. STAY WITH 00:22:08.841 --> 00:22:17.906 THE GENERATION OF NOW IS NBC NEWS NOW. 00:22:17.917 --> 00:22:19.284 NEWS NOW. >> WELCOME BACK. FORMER VICE 00:22:19.285 --> 00:22:21.019 >> WELCOME BACK. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS DOESN’T SEEM 00:22:21.020 --> 00:22:22.687 PRESIDENT HARRIS DOESN’T SEEM TO BE PULLING ANY PUNCHES IN 00:22:22.689 --> 00:22:24.723 TO BE PULLING ANY PUNCHES IN HER NEW BOOK, EVEN IF THAT 00:22:24.724 --> 00:22:25.657 HER NEW BOOK, EVEN IF THAT MEANS IGNITING TENSIONS WITHIN 00:22:25.692 --> 00:22:27.650 MEANS IGNITING TENSIONS WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IN THE 00:22:27.661 --> 00:22:28.484 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IN THE BOOK, WHICH IS SET TO COME OUT 00:22:28.495 --> 00:22:30.528 BOOK, WHICH IS SET TO COME OUT LATER THIS MONTH, THE FORMER 00:22:30.530 --> 00:22:32.064 LATER THIS MONTH, THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT GIVES AN INSIDE 00:22:32.098 --> 00:22:33.555 VICE PRESIDENT GIVES AN INSIDE LOOK AT HER BREAKNECK CAMPAIGN, 00:22:33.566 --> 00:22:35.591 LOOK AT HER BREAKNECK CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING HER THINKING WHEN IT 00:22:35.602 --> 00:22:37.293 INCLUDING HER THINKING WHEN IT COMES TO CHOOSING A RUNNING 00:22:37.304 --> 00:22:38.627 COMES TO CHOOSING A RUNNING MATE. ACCORDING TO THE ATLANTIC. 00:22:38.638 --> 00:22:41.006 MATE. ACCORDING TO THE ATLANTIC. SHE WRITES, QUOTE, FORMER 00:22:41.007 --> 00:22:41.573 SHE WRITES, QUOTE, FORMER TREASURY SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG 00:22:41.608 --> 00:22:43.466 TREASURY SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG WOULD HAVE BEEN AN IDEAL 00:22:43.477 --> 00:22:45.811 WOULD HAVE BEEN AN IDEAL PARTNER IF I WERE A STRAIGHT 00:22:45.812 --> 00:22:48.480 PARTNER IF I WERE A STRAIGHT WHITE MAN. SHE GOES ON TO WRITE, 00:22:48.515 --> 00:22:50.239 WHITE MAN. SHE GOES ON TO WRITE, QUOTE. PART OF ME WANTED TO SAY, 00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:52.441 QUOTE. PART OF ME WANTED TO SAY, SCREW IT, LET’S JUST DO IT. BUT 00:22:52.452 --> 00:22:53.752 SCREW IT, LET’S JUST DO IT. BUT KNOWING WHAT WAS AT STAKE, IT 00:22:53.753 --> 00:22:55.544 KNOWING WHAT WAS AT STAKE, IT WAS TOO BIG OF A RISK. AND I 00:22:55.555 --> 00:22:57.513 WAS TOO BIG OF A RISK. AND I THINK PETE ALSO KNEW THAT TO 00:22:57.524 --> 00:22:58.791 THINK PETE ALSO KNEW THAT TO OUR MUTUAL SADNESS. MEANWHILE, 00:22:58.825 --> 00:23:00.749 OUR MUTUAL SADNESS. MEANWHILE, THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTS 00:23:00.760 --> 00:23:02.728 THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTS FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, FORMER 00:23:02.729 --> 00:23:05.764 FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS VIEWED 00:23:05.765 --> 00:23:06.455 VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS VIEWED PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR SHAPIRO 00:23:06.466 --> 00:23:08.524 PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR SHAPIRO AS MORE INTERESTED IN DEFINING 00:23:08.535 --> 00:23:11.904 AS MORE INTERESTED IN DEFINING THE ROLE OF VP FOR HIMSELF THAN 00:23:11.938 --> 00:23:13.338 THE ROLE OF VP FOR HIMSELF THAN HELPING HER WIN. JOINING ME NOW 00:23:13.340 --> 00:23:15.565 HELPING HER WIN. JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS IS MY 00:23:15.576 --> 00:23:17.309 TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS IS MY PANEL, ASHLEY ETIENNE, FORMER 00:23:17.344 --> 00:23:18.367 PANEL, ASHLEY ETIENNE, FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR 00:23:18.378 --> 00:23:19.912 COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND 00:23:19.946 --> 00:23:20.803 VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND FORMER SENIOR ADVISER TO 00:23:20.814 --> 00:23:22.472 FORMER SENIOR ADVISER TO SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI. AND ALSO 00:23:22.483 --> 00:23:24.440 SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI. AND ALSO WITH ME IS REPUBLICAN 00:23:24.451 --> 00:23:26.319 WITH ME IS REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST RICK TYLER. THANKS 00:23:26.353 --> 00:23:28.578 STRATEGIST RICK TYLER. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. 00:23:28.589 --> 00:23:30.389 TO BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. I DO WANT TO DELVE INTO FORMER 00:23:30.390 --> 00:23:31.624 I DO WANT TO DELVE INTO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS’S 00:23:31.658 --> 00:23:33.582 VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS’S BOOK MOMENTARILY. BUT FIRST, I 00:23:33.593 --> 00:23:34.827 BOOK MOMENTARILY. BUT FIRST, I HAVE TO GET BOTH OF YOUR 00:23:34.861 --> 00:23:36.552 HAVE TO GET BOTH OF YOUR REACTIONS TO SOMETHING WE JUST 00:23:36.563 --> 00:23:38.487 REACTIONS TO SOMETHING WE JUST HEARD. ASHLEY, LET ME START 00:23:38.498 --> 00:23:40.256 HEARD. ASHLEY, LET ME START WITH YOU. TY COBB JUST SAYS HE 00:23:40.267 --> 00:23:41.591 WITH YOU. TY COBB JUST SAYS HE BELIEVES THE COUNTRY IS ALREADY 00:23:41.602 --> 00:23:43.803 BELIEVES THE COUNTRY IS ALREADY IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. DO 00:23:43.804 --> 00:23:45.538 IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? WHAT DO YOU 00:23:45.572 --> 00:23:48.774 YOU AGREE WITH HIM? WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT YOU JUST HEARD? 00:23:48.775 --> 00:23:48.974 MAKE OF WHAT YOU JUST HEARD? >> NO. 00:23:48.976 --> 00:23:49.732 >> NO. >> I. 00:23:49.743 --> 00:23:50.143 >> I. >> ABSOLUTELY AGREE. 00:23:50.177 --> 00:23:51.577 >> ABSOLUTELY AGREE. >> WITH HIM. ESPECIALLY AS IT 00:23:51.578 --> 00:23:52.301 >> WITH HIM. ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THIS. 00:23:52.312 --> 00:23:52.578 RELATES TO THIS. >> ISSUE OF. 00:23:52.579 --> 00:23:53.512 >> ISSUE OF. >> THE HOSTILE. 00:23:53.514 --> 00:23:55.772 >> THE HOSTILE. >> TAKEOVER OF THE MEDIA. I 00:23:55.783 --> 00:23:56.082 >> TAKEOVER OF THE MEDIA. I MEAN, IT’S. 00:23:56.083 --> 00:23:56.573 MEAN, IT’S. >> IT’S SORT. 00:23:56.584 --> 00:23:57.583 >> IT’S SORT. >> OF GREED AND. 00:23:57.584 --> 00:23:58.374 >> OF GREED AND. >> CORRUPTION AND. 00:23:58.385 --> 00:23:59.552 >> CORRUPTION AND. >> TRUMP’S INSATIABLE APPETITE 00:23:59.586 --> 00:23:59.842 >> TRUMP’S INSATIABLE APPETITE FOR POWER. 00:23:59.853 --> 00:24:01.678 FOR POWER. >> AT PLAY. ON FULL DISPLAY. 00:24:01.689 --> 00:24:02.478 >> AT PLAY. ON FULL DISPLAY. >> IN THE COUNTRY. 00:24:02.489 --> 00:24:03.489 >> IN THE COUNTRY. >> AND REALLY. 00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:04.590 >> AND REALLY. >> IT’S AN EXAMPLE. 00:24:04.591 --> 00:24:06.182 >> IT’S AN EXAMPLE. >> OF, OF. 00:24:06.193 --> 00:24:06.459 >> OF, OF. >> OF HOW. 00:24:06.493 --> 00:24:06.816 >> OF HOW. >> OUR RIGHTS. 00:24:06.827 --> 00:24:07.460 >> OUR RIGHTS. >> ARE BEING. 00:24:07.494 --> 00:24:08.517 >> ARE BEING. >> TRAMPLED BECAUSE OF IT. 00:24:08.528 --> 00:24:09.595 >> TRAMPLED BECAUSE OF IT. >> YOU KNOW. 00:24:09.596 --> 00:24:10.863 >> YOU KNOW. >> THIS WILL BE. 00:24:10.898 --> 00:24:11.421 >> THIS WILL BE. >> HIS GREATEST LEGACY. 00:24:11.432 --> 00:24:12.698 >> HIS GREATEST LEGACY. >> IT WON’T BE SOME. INNOVATIVE 00:24:12.700 --> 00:24:13.433 >> IT WON’T BE SOME. INNOVATIVE POLICY. 00:24:13.434 --> 00:24:13.733 POLICY. >> TO MAKE. 00:24:13.734 --> 00:24:14.667 >> TO MAKE. >> US MORE. 00:24:14.702 --> 00:24:16.193 >> US MORE. >> COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD. 00:24:16.204 --> 00:24:17.760 >> COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD. >> IT WILL BE ALL. 00:24:17.771 --> 00:24:18.838 >> IT WILL BE ALL. >> OF HIS EFFORTS. 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:19.205 >> OF HIS EFFORTS. >> TO UNDERMINE. 00:24:19.206 --> 00:24:19.696 >> TO UNDERMINE. >> THE TRUTH. 00:24:19.707 --> 00:24:20.840 >> THE TRUTH. >> UNDERMINE THESE THESE 00:24:20.841 --> 00:24:21.331 >> UNDERMINE THESE THESE PILLARS OF. 00:24:21.342 --> 00:24:21.741 PILLARS OF. >> OUR DEMOCRATIC. 00:24:21.742 --> 00:24:22.432 >> OUR DEMOCRATIC. >> SYSTEM. 00:24:22.443 --> 00:24:23.443 >> SYSTEM. >> AND REALLY. 00:24:23.444 --> 00:24:24.444 >> AND REALLY. >> UNDERMINING AND ATTACKING. 00:24:24.445 --> 00:24:25.335 >> UNDERMINING AND ATTACKING. >> HIS OPPOSITION. 00:24:25.346 --> 00:24:27.604 >> HIS OPPOSITION. >> WELL, RICK, HOW DO YOU SEE 00:24:27.615 --> 00:24:29.382 >> WELL, RICK, HOW DO YOU SEE IT? DO YOU THINK THAT IS 00:24:29.416 --> 00:24:31.674 IT? DO YOU THINK THAT IS OVERSTATED TO HEAR TY COBB AND 00:24:31.685 --> 00:24:33.686 OVERSTATED TO HEAR TY COBB AND NOW, ASHLEY, AGREE THAT THE 00:24:33.721 --> 00:24:34.411 NOW, ASHLEY, AGREE THAT THE COUNTRY’S ALREADY IN A 00:24:34.422 --> 00:24:36.523 COUNTRY’S ALREADY IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? 00:24:36.524 --> 00:24:36.823 CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? >> I DON’T. 00:24:36.824 --> 00:24:37.681 >> I DON’T. >> KNOW. 00:24:37.692 --> 00:24:38.348 >> KNOW. >> THAT IT’S IN A 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:39.492 >> THAT IT’S IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. I KNOW 00:24:39.527 --> 00:24:40.827 CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. I KNOW THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS BEING 00:24:40.828 --> 00:24:42.619 THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS BEING TESTED, AND IT’S BEEN TESTED. 00:24:42.630 --> 00:24:43.854 TESTED, AND IT’S BEEN TESTED. >> FOR ALL THESE HUNDREDS OF 00:24:43.865 --> 00:24:44.354 >> FOR ALL THESE HUNDREDS OF YEARS. 00:24:44.365 --> 00:24:45.498 YEARS. >> IT IS DEFINITELY BEING 00:24:45.533 --> 00:24:46.633 >> IT IS DEFINITELY BEING TESTED NOW, AND. 00:24:46.634 --> 00:24:47.390 TESTED NOW, AND. >> WE WILL. 00:24:47.401 --> 00:24:50.503 >> WE WILL. >> SEE IF. THE COURTS AND THE 00:24:50.538 --> 00:24:51.862 >> SEE IF. THE COURTS AND THE BRANCHES, CO-EQUAL BRANCHES OF 00:24:51.873 --> 00:24:54.841 BRANCHES, CO-EQUAL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT PUSH BACK ON SOME OF 00:24:54.842 --> 00:24:55.732 GOVERNMENT PUSH BACK ON SOME OF THE POWERS THAT THE PRESIDENT 00:24:55.743 --> 00:24:55.909 THE POWERS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS. 00:24:55.943 --> 00:24:58.468 HAS. >> ASSERTED FOR HIMSELF. 00:24:58.479 --> 00:25:00.380 >> ASSERTED FOR HIMSELF. >> AND AND SO THAT GOES ON. 00:25:00.381 --> 00:25:03.440 >> AND AND SO THAT GOES ON. TARIFFS CERTAINLY GOES ON THE 00:25:03.451 --> 00:25:05.452 TARIFFS CERTAINLY GOES ON THE THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS FOR THE 00:25:05.453 --> 00:25:08.755 THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS FOR THE FED. IT GOES FOR FIRING 00:25:08.756 --> 00:25:10.490 FED. IT GOES FOR FIRING EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW. SO ALL 00:25:10.491 --> 00:25:12.449 EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW. SO ALL THESE THINGS I THINK STILL NEED 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:14.661 THESE THINGS I THINK STILL NEED TO BE ADJUDICATED. AND WHEN THE 00:25:14.662 --> 00:25:17.130 TO BE ADJUDICATED. AND WHEN THE COURT BEGINS TO AGREE. OR TAKE 00:25:17.165 --> 00:25:18.188 COURT BEGINS TO AGREE. OR TAKE POSITIONS AGAINST THE 00:25:18.199 --> 00:25:19.490 POSITIONS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION, THEN I THINK I 00:25:19.501 --> 00:25:21.701 CONSTITUTION, THEN I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WE’RE IN 00:25:21.703 --> 00:25:22.636 WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WE’RE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. 00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:24.394 A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. >> OKAY. WELL, IT CERTAINLY IS 00:25:24.405 --> 00:25:25.472 >> OKAY. WELL, IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING WE’RE GOING TO 00:25:25.473 --> 00:25:26.773 SOMETHING WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WATCH VERY CLOSELY. 00:25:26.774 --> 00:25:29.442 CONTINUE TO WATCH VERY CLOSELY. I DO NOW WANT TO GET TO 107 00:25:29.477 --> 00:25:31.778 I DO NOW WANT TO GET TO 107 DAYS, THIS BOOK OUT BY FORMER 00:25:31.779 --> 00:25:33.403 DAYS, THIS BOOK OUT BY FORMER VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, 00:25:33.414 --> 00:25:35.515 VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, TELLING HER SIDE OF THE STORY, 00:25:35.516 --> 00:25:36.649 TELLING HER SIDE OF THE STORY, ASHLEY BASICALLY SAYING THERE 00:25:36.684 --> 00:25:39.886 ASHLEY BASICALLY SAYING THERE WASN’T ENOUGH TIME FOR HER TO 00:25:39.888 --> 00:25:41.679 WASN’T ENOUGH TIME FOR HER TO WIN THE ELECTION. SHE SAYS THAT 00:25:41.690 --> 00:25:43.647 WIN THE ELECTION. SHE SAYS THAT IT WAS RECKLESS FOR PRESIDENT 00:25:43.658 --> 00:25:45.583 IT WAS RECKLESS FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN’S INNER CIRCLE TO LEAVE 00:25:45.594 --> 00:25:48.018 BIDEN’S INNER CIRCLE TO LEAVE THE FINAL DECISION UP TO HIM. 00:25:48.029 --> 00:25:48.919 THE FINAL DECISION UP TO HIM. AND NOW THIS SORT OF 00:25:48.930 --> 00:25:50.364 AND NOW THIS SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY TAKE ON HER 00:25:50.398 --> 00:25:52.599 EXTRAORDINARY TAKE ON HER PROCESS OF CHOOSING A RUNNING 00:25:52.600 --> 00:25:54.658 PROCESS OF CHOOSING A RUNNING MATE. SHE SAYS SHE DIDN’T 00:25:54.669 --> 00:25:55.469 MATE. SHE SAYS SHE DIDN’T CHOOSE BUTTIGIEG BECAUSE SHE 00:25:55.503 --> 00:25:57.127 CHOOSE BUTTIGIEG BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT THERE WAS BASICALLY TOO 00:25:57.138 --> 00:25:58.572 THOUGHT THERE WAS BASICALLY TOO MUCH DIVERSITY ON THE TICKET IF 00:25:58.606 --> 00:26:00.730 MUCH DIVERSITY ON THE TICKET IF SHE WERE TO HAVE CHOSEN HIM. 00:26:00.741 --> 00:26:01.542 SHE WERE TO HAVE CHOSEN HIM. GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO, SHE 00:26:01.543 --> 00:26:03.701 GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO, SHE TALKS ABOUT HIM BEING MORE 00:26:03.712 --> 00:26:05.379 TALKS ABOUT HIM BEING MORE FOCUSED ON ACTUALLY GETTING THE 00:26:05.413 --> 00:26:07.070 FOCUSED ON ACTUALLY GETTING THE JOB THAN ACTUALLY BEING HER 00:26:07.081 --> 00:26:08.382 JOB THAN ACTUALLY BEING HER PARTNER. IF SHE WERE TO HAVE 00:26:08.416 --> 00:26:11.518 PARTNER. IF SHE WERE TO HAVE CHOSEN HIM. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.410 CHOSEN HIM. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS ACCOUNT? AND BY THE WAY, I 00:26:13.421 --> 00:26:14.745 THIS ACCOUNT? AND BY THE WAY, I WILL HAVE HIS REACTION COMING 00:26:14.756 --> 00:26:16.724 WILL HAVE HIS REACTION COMING UP ON MEET THE PRESS ON SUNDAY. 00:26:16.725 --> 00:26:17.415 UP ON MEET THE PRESS ON SUNDAY. >> YEAH. I MEAN. 00:26:17.426 --> 00:26:18.425 >> YEAH. I MEAN. >> YOU KNOW. 00:26:18.426 --> 00:26:19.526 >> YOU KNOW. >> HONESTLY, I LOVE. 00:26:19.528 --> 00:26:21.596 >> HONESTLY, I LOVE. >> THE VICE PRESIDENT. I THINK. 00:26:21.630 --> 00:26:22.830 >> THE VICE PRESIDENT. I THINK. SHE’S A BLUEPRINT FOR. 00:26:22.831 --> 00:26:23.688 SHE’S A BLUEPRINT FOR. >> THE VICE PRESIDENCY. I THINK 00:26:23.699 --> 00:26:24.622 >> THE VICE PRESIDENCY. I THINK SHE’S, YOU. 00:26:24.633 --> 00:26:26.300 SHE’S, YOU. >> KNOW, AGAIN, BRILLIANT. 00:26:26.334 --> 00:26:26.657 >> KNOW, AGAIN, BRILLIANT. >> SUPERB IS. 00:26:26.668 --> 00:26:27.425 >> SUPERB IS. >> YOU KNOW. 00:26:27.436 --> 00:26:28.469 >> YOU KNOW. >> A GROUNDBREAKING. 00:26:28.470 --> 00:26:29.704 >> A GROUNDBREAKING. >> IN EVERY ASPECT OF HER. 00:26:29.738 --> 00:26:30.428 >> IN EVERY ASPECT OF HER. >> ENTIRE CAREER. 00:26:30.439 --> 00:26:32.840 >> ENTIRE CAREER. >> BUT I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT 00:26:32.841 --> 00:26:33.140 >> BUT I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT VALUE THAT. 00:26:33.141 --> 00:26:33.631 VALUE THAT. >> THIS ADDS. 00:26:33.642 --> 00:26:34.765 >> THIS ADDS. >> IN THIS MOMENT. 00:26:34.776 --> 00:26:35.576 >> IN THIS MOMENT. >> RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE’RE. 00:26:35.577 --> 00:26:36.610 >> RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE’RE. >> FAST TRACKING. 00:26:36.645 --> 00:26:37.702 >> FAST TRACKING. >> TOWARD A DICTATORSHIP, 00:26:37.713 --> 00:26:38.636 >> TOWARD A DICTATORSHIP, YOU’VE GOT. 00:26:38.647 --> 00:26:39.013 YOU’VE GOT. >> 300,000 PLUS. 00:26:39.047 --> 00:26:39.570 >> 300,000 PLUS. >> BLACK WOMEN THAT. 00:26:39.581 --> 00:26:41.916 >> BLACK WOMEN THAT. >> ARE HAVE DROPPED. OUT OF THE 00:26:41.950 --> 00:26:43.507 >> ARE HAVE DROPPED. OUT OF THE ECONOMY. THE ECONOMY IS TANKING. 00:26:43.518 --> 00:26:44.518 ECONOMY. THE ECONOMY IS TANKING. >> RECORD UNEMPLOYMENT. 00:26:44.553 --> 00:26:45.476 >> RECORD UNEMPLOYMENT. >> SO I. 00:26:45.487 --> 00:26:46.521 >> SO I. >> JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT. 00:26:46.555 --> 00:26:47.812 >> JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT. >> VALUE THAT THIS ADDS. 00:26:47.823 --> 00:26:48.355 >> VALUE THAT THIS ADDS. >> I MEAN. 00:26:48.357 --> 00:26:50.491 >> I MEAN. >> HAD I BEEN ADVISING HER, HAD. 00:26:50.492 --> 00:26:50.825 >> HAD I BEEN ADVISING HER, HAD. >> SHE ASKED. 00:26:50.859 --> 00:26:51.582 >> SHE ASKED. >> ME. 00:26:51.593 --> 00:26:53.294 >> ME. >> I WOULD HAVE TOLD HER TO 00:26:53.295 --> 00:26:54.552 >> I WOULD HAVE TOLD HER TO WRITE A DIFFERENT BOOK. A BOOK. 00:26:54.563 --> 00:26:55.496 WRITE A DIFFERENT BOOK. A BOOK. >> THAT MY. 00:26:55.497 --> 00:26:56.630 >> THAT MY. >> DAUGHTER, YOUR. 00:26:56.665 --> 00:26:57.355 >> DAUGHTER, YOUR. >> DAUGHTERS AND THEIR 00:26:57.366 --> 00:26:57.665 >> DAUGHTERS AND THEIR GENERATION. 00:26:57.666 --> 00:26:58.422 GENERATION. >> REALLY NEEDS. 00:26:58.433 --> 00:26:59.767 >> REALLY NEEDS. >> AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FULL 00:26:59.768 --> 00:27:00.935 >> AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FULL THROATED. 00:27:00.969 --> 00:27:01.368 THROATED. >> DESCRIPTION OF. 00:27:01.370 --> 00:27:01.893 >> DESCRIPTION OF. >> HOW SHE BROKE. 00:27:01.904 --> 00:27:02.660 >> HOW SHE BROKE. >> THAT GLASS CEILING. 00:27:02.671 --> 00:27:03.704 >> THAT GLASS CEILING. >> MANY OF THE. 00:27:03.705 --> 00:27:05.663 >> MANY OF THE. >> CHALLENGES THAT I SAW HER. 00:27:05.674 --> 00:27:06.340 >> CHALLENGES THAT I SAW HER. >> FACE IN. 00:27:06.375 --> 00:27:07.632 >> FACE IN. >> THE WHITE. HOUSE AND HOW SHE 00:27:07.643 --> 00:27:09.300 >> THE WHITE. HOUSE AND HOW SHE OVERCAME IT TO REALLY. MAKE 00:27:09.311 --> 00:27:10.645 OVERCAME IT TO REALLY. MAKE GROUNDBREAKING, OR I SHOULD SAY. 00:27:10.679 --> 00:27:11.702 GROUNDBREAKING, OR I SHOULD SAY. >> RECORD BREAKING. 00:27:11.713 --> 00:27:12.079 >> RECORD BREAKING. >> INVESTMENTS IN. 00:27:12.081 --> 00:27:13.448 >> INVESTMENTS IN. >> THE BORDER, YOU KNOW. 00:27:13.482 --> 00:27:14.682 >> THE BORDER, YOU KNOW. >> TAKING ON OUR. 00:27:14.683 --> 00:27:15.406 >> TAKING ON OUR. >> DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS FROM. 00:27:15.417 --> 00:27:16.684 >> DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS FROM. >> VOTING RIGHTS. 00:27:16.685 --> 00:27:17.475 >> VOTING RIGHTS. >> TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, TO 00:27:17.486 --> 00:27:19.220 >> TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, TO REALLY ENGAGING AND BRINGING A. 00:27:19.221 --> 00:27:19.711 REALLY ENGAGING AND BRINGING A. >> NEW SET. 00:27:19.722 --> 00:27:20.312 >> NEW SET. >> OF COALITION. 00:27:20.323 --> 00:27:20.521 >> OF COALITION. >> TO. 00:27:20.522 --> 00:27:22.780 >> TO. >> THE TABLE TO TO SUPPORT 00:27:22.791 --> 00:27:23.557 >> THE TABLE TO TO SUPPORT POLICIES. AS BIG AS 00:27:23.592 --> 00:27:24.282 POLICIES. AS BIG AS INFRASTRUCTURE AND GUNS THAT 00:27:24.293 --> 00:27:25.416 INFRASTRUCTURE AND GUNS THAT THEY PASSED. I MEAN. 00:27:25.427 --> 00:27:26.885 THEY PASSED. I MEAN. >> SHE HAS A TREMENDOUS. 00:27:26.896 --> 00:27:27.729 >> SHE HAS A TREMENDOUS. >> RECORD, AND I JUST WOULD 00:27:27.730 --> 00:27:29.264 >> RECORD, AND I JUST WOULD WISH THAT SHE WOULD HAVE 00:27:29.298 --> 00:27:30.555 WISH THAT SHE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK THAT REALLY 00:27:30.566 --> 00:27:31.666 WRITTEN A BOOK THAT REALLY ELEVATED THAT AND CONTRASTED 00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:32.857 ELEVATED THAT AND CONTRASTED WHERE. WHAT THE AMERICA. UNDER 00:27:32.868 --> 00:27:34.469 WHERE. WHAT THE AMERICA. UNDER UNDER. BIDEN AND HARRIS, WHERE 00:27:34.503 --> 00:27:34.659 UNDER. BIDEN AND HARRIS, WHERE SHE. 00:27:34.670 --> 00:27:36.128 SHE. >> WANTED TO. 00:27:36.139 --> 00:27:37.295 >> WANTED TO. >> TAKE AMERICA AND WHERE WE 00:27:37.306 --> 00:27:37.672 >> TAKE AMERICA AND WHERE WE ARE. 00:27:37.706 --> 00:27:38.029 ARE. >> RIGHT NOW. 00:27:38.040 --> 00:27:39.574 >> RIGHT NOW. >> RICK, YOU KNOW, IT’S SUCH A 00:27:39.608 --> 00:27:41.632 >> RICK, YOU KNOW, IT’S SUCH A FASCINATING POINT THAT ASHLEY 00:27:41.643 --> 00:27:43.377 FASCINATING POINT THAT ASHLEY IS MAKING RIGHT NOW. AND I HAVE 00:27:43.412 --> 00:27:44.736 IS MAKING RIGHT NOW. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I’VE SPOKEN TO A 00:27:44.747 --> 00:27:46.305 TO TELL YOU, I’VE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF DEMOCRATS, ONE JUST 00:27:46.316 --> 00:27:47.382 NUMBER OF DEMOCRATS, ONE JUST LAST NIGHT TELLING ME, BOY, 00:27:47.416 --> 00:27:50.575 LAST NIGHT TELLING ME, BOY, THIS BOOK LACKS INTROSPECTION 00:27:50.586 --> 00:27:53.488 THIS BOOK LACKS INTROSPECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT SHE COULD HAVE 00:27:53.522 --> 00:27:54.946 IN TERMS OF WHAT SHE COULD HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY 00:27:54.957 --> 00:27:56.591 DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY IN THIS CAMPAIGN. HERE IS HOW 00:27:56.626 --> 00:27:58.627 IN THIS CAMPAIGN. HERE IS HOW PETE BUTTIGIEG RESPONDED TO THE 00:27:58.628 --> 00:28:00.486 PETE BUTTIGIEG RESPONDED TO THE EXCERPT IN THE BOOK, WHERE SHE 00:28:00.497 --> 00:28:02.464 EXCERPT IN THE BOOK, WHERE SHE TALKS ABOUT MAKING A 00:28:02.465 --> 00:28:03.565 TALKS ABOUT MAKING A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER TO 00:28:03.566 --> 00:28:05.200 DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER TO CHOOSE HIM AS HER RUNNING MATE. 00:28:05.234 --> 00:28:06.391 CHOOSE HIM AS HER RUNNING MATE. SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG SAYS TO 00:28:06.402 --> 00:28:07.526 SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG SAYS TO POLITICO, QUOTE, I WAS 00:28:07.537 --> 00:28:09.271 POLITICO, QUOTE, I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I READ THAT. I 00:28:09.272 --> 00:28:11.764 SURPRISED WHEN I READ THAT. I JUST BELIEVE IN GIVING 00:28:11.775 --> 00:28:12.731 JUST BELIEVE IN GIVING AMERICANS MORE CREDIT. GOVERNOR 00:28:12.742 --> 00:28:15.777 AMERICANS MORE CREDIT. GOVERNOR SHAPIRO SAID TO STEPHEN A SMITH. 00:28:15.778 --> 00:28:16.635 SHAPIRO SAID TO STEPHEN A SMITH. SHE’S GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER 00:28:16.646 --> 00:28:18.780 SHE’S GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER TO HOW SHE WAS IN THE ROOM AND 00:28:18.781 --> 00:28:20.415 TO HOW SHE WAS IN THE ROOM AND YET NEVER SAID ANYTHING 00:28:20.450 --> 00:28:23.342 YET NEVER SAID ANYTHING PUBLICLY MEANING TO ABOUT 00:28:23.353 --> 00:28:24.609 PUBLICLY MEANING TO ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN’S CAPACITY TO 00:28:24.620 --> 00:28:26.645 PRESIDENT BIDEN’S CAPACITY TO SERVE. AND WE’LL HAVE MORE 00:28:26.656 --> 00:28:28.347 SERVE. AND WE’LL HAVE MORE REACTION FROM GOVERNOR SHAPIRO 00:28:28.358 --> 00:28:32.294 REACTION FROM GOVERNOR SHAPIRO ON SUNDAY. IS THIS A RECIPE FOR 00:28:32.295 --> 00:28:35.130 ON SUNDAY. IS THIS A RECIPE FOR RUNNING AGAIN IN 2028, RICK. 00:28:35.164 --> 00:28:36.688 RUNNING AGAIN IN 2028, RICK. YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGNS? 00:28:36.699 --> 00:28:38.767 YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGNS? >> YEAH, I DON’T THINK SO. I 00:28:38.768 --> 00:28:39.735 >> YEAH, I DON’T THINK SO. I THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY 00:28:39.769 --> 00:28:40.926 THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO WRITE ANOTHER BOOK. 00:28:40.937 --> 00:28:42.695 FOR HER TO WRITE ANOTHER BOOK. OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN’T READ THE 00:28:42.706 --> 00:28:44.272 OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN’T READ THE BOOK, BUT SPEAKING OF 00:28:44.274 --> 00:28:45.374 BOOK, BUT SPEAKING OF INTROSPECTION, I THINK THE 00:28:45.375 --> 00:28:46.542 INTROSPECTION, I THINK THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT KAMALA 00:28:46.576 --> 00:28:49.101 BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT KAMALA HARRIS MADE DURING HER CAMPAIGN 00:28:49.112 --> 00:28:51.012 HARRIS MADE DURING HER CAMPAIGN WAS A SINGLE QUOTE IN WHICH 00:28:51.014 --> 00:28:51.847 WAS A SINGLE QUOTE IN WHICH SORT OF ENCAPSULATED THE WHOLE 00:28:51.881 --> 00:28:53.672 SORT OF ENCAPSULATED THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS, WOULD YOU 00:28:53.683 --> 00:28:55.807 CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS, WOULD YOU DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THAN 00:28:55.818 --> 00:28:56.675 DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THAN PRESIDENT BIDEN? AND SHE SAID 00:28:56.686 --> 00:28:58.310 PRESIDENT BIDEN? AND SHE SAID SHE COULDN’T THINK OF ANYTHING 00:28:58.321 --> 00:28:59.555 SHE COULDN’T THINK OF ANYTHING DIFFERENT. AND, AND I THINK 00:28:59.589 --> 00:29:01.647 DIFFERENT. AND, AND I THINK REALLY THAT WAS IT. I THINK 00:29:01.658 --> 00:29:02.724 REALLY THAT WAS IT. I THINK PEOPLE WANTED TO MOVE ON FROM 00:29:02.726 --> 00:29:04.517 PEOPLE WANTED TO MOVE ON FROM JOE BIDEN. THEY DIDN’T AGREE 00:29:04.528 --> 00:29:05.761 JOE BIDEN. THEY DIDN’T AGREE WITH HIS POLICIES. I’M NOT SURE 00:29:05.795 --> 00:29:07.486 WITH HIS POLICIES. I’M NOT SURE THEY AGREE WITH HERS. THERE WAS 00:29:07.497 --> 00:29:09.722 THEY AGREE WITH HERS. THERE WAS A TONE DEAFNESS TO THE CAMPAIGN. 00:29:09.733 --> 00:29:12.801 A TONE DEAFNESS TO THE CAMPAIGN. IT HAD A AN APPEAL TO THE ELITE 00:29:12.802 --> 00:29:13.769 IT HAD A AN APPEAL TO THE ELITE AND LEFT BEHIND THE WORKING 00:29:13.803 --> 00:29:15.627 AND LEFT BEHIND THE WORKING CLASS. AND THAT’S THE THAT’S 00:29:15.638 --> 00:29:16.829 CLASS. AND THAT’S THE THAT’S THE PROBLEM THAT DEMOCRATS ARE 00:29:16.840 --> 00:29:18.531 THE PROBLEM THAT DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE UP TO. 00:29:18.542 --> 00:29:19.642 GOING TO HAVE TO FACE UP TO. THEY WALKED AWAY FROM THE 00:29:19.643 --> 00:29:20.533 THEY WALKED AWAY FROM THE WORKING CLASS. PRESIDENT TRUMP 00:29:20.544 --> 00:29:21.644 WORKING CLASS. PRESIDENT TRUMP GRABBED THEM, AND NOW THEY’RE 00:29:21.645 --> 00:29:23.846 GRABBED THEM, AND NOW THEY’RE WITHOUT THE WORKING CLASS. AND 00:29:23.847 --> 00:29:24.704 WITHOUT THE WORKING CLASS. AND IT’S GOING TO BE UP TO THE 00:29:24.715 --> 00:29:26.982 IT’S GOING TO BE UP TO THE DEMOCRATS TO SOMEHOW WIN THEM 00:29:27.017 --> 00:29:27.974 DEMOCRATS TO SOMEHOW WIN THEM BACK. MAYBE THEY MAYBE THEY CAN. 00:29:27.985 --> 00:29:29.518 BACK. MAYBE THEY MAYBE THEY CAN. BUT RIGHT NOW THEY BELONG TO 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:30.986 BUT RIGHT NOW THEY BELONG TO THE PRESIDENT. 00:29:31.021 --> 00:29:33.613 THE PRESIDENT. >> YOU KNOW, ASHLEY, TO THAT 00:29:33.624 --> 00:29:35.414 >> YOU KNOW, ASHLEY, TO THAT QUESTION OF ONE OF THE THINGS 00:29:35.425 --> 00:29:37.750 QUESTION OF ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED IN ORDER TO RUN A 00:29:37.761 --> 00:29:39.252 YOU NEED IN ORDER TO RUN A SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN IS TO HAVE 00:29:39.263 --> 00:29:41.563 SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN IS TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE, QUOTE, 00:29:41.565 --> 00:29:43.800 THE SUPPORT OF THE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC 00:29:43.834 --> 00:29:45.591 UNQUOTE, BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALL THESE PEOPLE, 00:29:45.602 --> 00:29:47.136 PARTY AND ALL THESE PEOPLE, WHETHER YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT 00:29:47.137 --> 00:29:47.727 WHETHER YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG, WHETHER 00:29:47.738 --> 00:29:48.905 SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG, WHETHER YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNOR 00:29:48.939 --> 00:29:51.564 YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNOR SHAPIRO. BOY, THEY RALLIED 00:29:51.575 --> 00:29:55.611 SHAPIRO. BOY, THEY RALLIED AROUND HER IN 2024. SHE CLEARLY, 00:29:55.646 --> 00:29:58.371 AROUND HER IN 2024. SHE CLEARLY, IN THIS BOOK, LEAVES THE DOOR 00:29:58.382 --> 00:29:59.548 IN THIS BOOK, LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN TO SOMETHING, TO THE 00:29:59.550 --> 00:30:00.750 OPEN TO SOMETHING, TO THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIALLY 00:30:00.751 --> 00:30:02.375 POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIALLY RUNNING AGAIN OR TO HAVING SOME 00:30:02.386 --> 00:30:04.787 RUNNING AGAIN OR TO HAVING SOME TYPE OF POLITICAL FUTURE. BUT 00:30:04.788 --> 00:30:05.554 TYPE OF POLITICAL FUTURE. BUT FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, 00:30:05.556 --> 00:30:07.424 FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, ASHLEY, HOW CHALLENGING WOULD 00:30:07.458 --> 00:30:09.482 ASHLEY, HOW CHALLENGING WOULD THAT BE? WILL THESE PEOPLE, IF 00:30:09.493 --> 00:30:10.727 THAT BE? WILL THESE PEOPLE, IF SHE WERE TO SAY, HEY, I’M 00:30:10.761 --> 00:30:12.418 SHE WERE TO SAY, HEY, I’M RUNNING AGAIN? WOULD THEY BE 00:30:12.429 --> 00:30:14.530 RUNNING AGAIN? WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO BACK HER? 00:30:14.565 --> 00:30:15.388 ABLE TO BACK HER? >> YEAH, I MEAN, THE 00:30:15.399 --> 00:30:16.533 >> YEAH, I MEAN, THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT ALL. 00:30:16.567 --> 00:30:17.624 UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT ALL. >> OF THESE. 00:30:17.635 --> 00:30:19.292 >> OF THESE. >> THE FOLKS THAT YOU JUST LAID. 00:30:19.303 --> 00:30:20.303 >> THE FOLKS THAT YOU JUST LAID. >> OUT AND THAT. 00:30:20.304 --> 00:30:21.604 >> OUT AND THAT. >> SHE TALKS ABOUT IN THE BOOK, 00:30:21.605 --> 00:30:24.140 >> SHE TALKS ABOUT IN THE BOOK, WERE REALLY GOOD SOLDIERS. I 00:30:24.174 --> 00:30:24.373 WERE REALLY GOOD SOLDIERS. I MEAN. 00:30:24.375 --> 00:30:24.598 MEAN. >> THEY. 00:30:24.609 --> 00:30:25.642 >> THEY. >> WERE OUT THERE SOLDIERING. 00:30:25.676 --> 00:30:26.699 >> WERE OUT THERE SOLDIERING. >> TO TRY TO. 00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:27.744 >> TO TRY TO. >> WIN THIS ELECTION. SO IT’S 00:30:27.778 --> 00:30:28.635 >> WIN THIS ELECTION. SO IT’S UNFORTUNATE TO. 00:30:28.646 --> 00:30:29.846 UNFORTUNATE TO. >> TO HEAR HOW SHE’S BEEN 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:30.179 >> TO HEAR HOW SHE’S BEEN POSITIONING. 00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:31.604 POSITIONING. >> THEM IN THIS PARTICULAR BOOK. 00:30:31.615 --> 00:30:33.206 >> THEM IN THIS PARTICULAR BOOK. >> BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE’S GOT, 00:30:33.217 --> 00:30:34.708 >> BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE’S GOT, YOU KNOW, EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO 00:30:34.719 --> 00:30:34.951 YOU KNOW, EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY. 00:30:34.985 --> 00:30:35.775 REALLY. >> SEE THIS. 00:30:35.786 --> 00:30:36.142 >> SEE THIS. >> AND DELIVER. 00:30:36.153 --> 00:30:37.010 >> AND DELIVER. >> THIS BOOK FROM. 00:30:37.021 --> 00:30:38.278 >> THIS BOOK FROM. >> HER OWN PERSPECTIVE. BUT I 00:30:38.289 --> 00:30:39.689 >> HER OWN PERSPECTIVE. BUT I THINK WHAT GOVERNOR SHAPIRO 00:30:39.690 --> 00:30:40.480 THINK WHAT GOVERNOR SHAPIRO SAID IS. 00:30:40.491 --> 00:30:40.814 SAID IS. >> REALLY IF. 00:30:40.825 --> 00:30:42.359 >> REALLY IF. >> I HAD TO IDENTIFY A 00:30:42.393 --> 00:30:43.617 >> I HAD TO IDENTIFY A VULNERABILITY FOR HER, IT IS 00:30:43.628 --> 00:30:44.461 VULNERABILITY FOR HER, IT IS THAT ONE. 00:30:44.495 --> 00:30:44.894 THAT ONE. >> GOING FORWARD. 00:30:44.895 --> 00:30:45.718 >> GOING FORWARD. >> WHAT DOES. 00:30:45.729 --> 00:30:47.830 >> WHAT DOES. >> SHE KNOW WHEN SHE KNEW IT? I 00:30:47.832 --> 00:30:48.422 >> SHE KNOW WHEN SHE KNEW IT? I MEAN, YOU’VE. 00:30:48.433 --> 00:30:49.689 MEAN, YOU’VE. >> GOT A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. 00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:51.591 >> GOT A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. >> AND A COMMITTEE ON CAPITOL. 00:30:51.602 --> 00:30:52.435 >> AND A COMMITTEE ON CAPITOL. >> HILL THAT’S DEPOSING FORMER. 00:30:52.436 --> 00:30:53.970 >> HILL THAT’S DEPOSING FORMER. >> BIDEN STAFFERS. AS WE. 00:30:54.004 --> 00:30:54.961 >> BIDEN STAFFERS. AS WE. >> SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR 00:30:54.972 --> 00:30:56.373 >> SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND I JUST FOUND IT 00:30:56.407 --> 00:30:58.098 ISSUE. AND I JUST FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT AS A FORMER OR 00:30:58.109 --> 00:30:59.633 INTERESTING THAT AS A FORMER OR CURRENT ATTORNEY AND FORMER 00:30:59.644 --> 00:31:00.276 CURRENT ATTORNEY AND FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL, THAT SHE 00:31:00.311 --> 00:31:00.510 ATTORNEY GENERAL, THAT SHE WOULD. 00:31:00.511 --> 00:31:01.401 WOULD. >> EVEN STEP. 00:31:01.412 --> 00:31:02.769 >> EVEN STEP. >> SORT OF INTO THAT REALM. AND, 00:31:02.780 --> 00:31:03.904 >> SORT OF INTO THAT REALM. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE. 00:31:03.915 --> 00:31:04.680 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE. >> WERE. 00:31:04.715 --> 00:31:06.406 >> WERE. >> SO MANY OTHER THINGS I THINK 00:31:06.417 --> 00:31:07.574 >> SO MANY OTHER THINGS I THINK SHE COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT, 00:31:07.585 --> 00:31:08.786 SHE COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HER FOUR YEARS IN 00:31:08.819 --> 00:31:10.343 YOU KNOW, HER FOUR YEARS IN THAT OFFICE AND BREAKING THAT 00:31:10.354 --> 00:31:11.521 THAT OFFICE AND BREAKING THAT GLASS CEILING RATHER THAN 00:31:11.522 --> 00:31:12.489 GLASS CEILING RATHER THAN GETTING INTO SORT OF WHAT FEELS 00:31:12.523 --> 00:31:14.447 GETTING INTO SORT OF WHAT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE PAGE SIX, SORT 00:31:14.458 --> 00:31:17.560 VERY MUCH LIKE PAGE SIX, SORT OF GOSSIPY STUFF. 00:31:17.562 --> 00:31:19.453 OF GOSSIPY STUFF. >> RICK. JUST FINALLY, A LOT OF 00:31:19.464 --> 00:31:21.999 >> RICK. JUST FINALLY, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO SHE MENTIONS 00:31:22.033 --> 00:31:23.433 THESE PEOPLE WHO SHE MENTIONS IN HER BOOK, OF COURSE, THEY 00:31:23.434 --> 00:31:25.558 IN HER BOOK, OF COURSE, THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING A 00:31:25.569 --> 00:31:27.861 ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING A LOT OF BUZZ AS BEING POTENTIAL 00:31:27.872 --> 00:31:29.639 LOT OF BUZZ AS BEING POTENTIAL CANDIDATES IN 2028 THEMSELVES. 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.741 CANDIDATES IN 2028 THEMSELVES. COULD THAT BE PART OF THE 00:31:31.743 --> 00:31:33.410 COULD THAT BE PART OF THE STRATEGY HERE? TRYING TO START? 00:31:33.444 --> 00:31:34.744 STRATEGY HERE? TRYING TO START? IT FEELS LIKE THE PRIMARY MAY 00:31:34.746 --> 00:31:38.005 IT FEELS LIKE THE PRIMARY MAY HAVE ALREADY STARTED. I MEAN, I 00:31:38.016 --> 00:31:39.216 HAVE ALREADY STARTED. I MEAN, I DON’T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE 00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:39.573 DON’T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE PROCESS, BUT. 00:31:39.584 --> 00:31:40.917 PROCESS, BUT. >> WELL, LOOK, YOU’RE RIGHT. 00:31:40.952 --> 00:31:42.409 >> WELL, LOOK, YOU’RE RIGHT. ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU 00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:43.978 ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU MENTIONED, THEY ARE GOING TO 00:31:43.989 --> 00:31:44.754 MENTIONED, THEY ARE GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THERE’S NO 00:31:44.756 --> 00:31:46.380 RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THERE’S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, I THINK THE 00:31:46.391 --> 00:31:47.648 DOUBT IN MY MIND, I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND I’M NOT A 00:31:47.659 --> 00:31:49.884 DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND I’M NOT A DEMOCRAT, SO I SHOULDN’T SPEAK 00:31:49.895 --> 00:31:50.584 DEMOCRAT, SO I SHOULDN’T SPEAK FOR THEM. BUT I THINK THEY’VE 00:31:50.595 --> 00:31:51.695 FOR THEM. BUT I THINK THEY’VE TURNED THE PAGE ON KAMALA 00:31:51.696 --> 00:31:54.331 TURNED THE PAGE ON KAMALA HARRIS. I DON’T THINK SHE WILL 00:31:54.365 --> 00:31:55.388 HARRIS. I DON’T THINK SHE WILL BE THE NOMINEE IF SHE RUNS. I 00:31:55.399 --> 00:31:56.790 BE THE NOMINEE IF SHE RUNS. I JUST DON’T THINK THEY’RE GOING 00:31:56.801 --> 00:31:58.235 JUST DON’T THINK THEY’RE GOING TO GO BACK TO IT. 00:31:58.269 --> 00:32:00.393 TO GO BACK TO IT. >> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, FANTASTIC 00:32:00.404 --> 00:32:01.595 >> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, FANTASTIC CONVERSATION. A LOT TO UNPACK 00:32:01.606 --> 00:32:03.273 CONVERSATION. A LOT TO UNPACK ON THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. 00:32:03.274 --> 00:32:04.541 ON THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ASHLEY AND RICK, WE REALLY 00:32:04.576 --> 00:32:06.577 ASHLEY AND RICK, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO 00:32:06.578 --> 00:32:08.135 APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK. 00:32:08.146 --> 00:32:08.679 MUCH. COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK. MEET THE VETERAN DEMOCRATIC 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.648 MEET THE VETERAN DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVE WHO SAYS IT IS TIME 00:32:10.682 --> 00:32:13.374 OPERATIVE WHO SAYS IT IS TIME FOR THE PARTY TO REGROUP AND 00:32:13.385 --> 00:32:15.610 FOR THE PARTY TO REGROUP AND TRY TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE MOST 00:32:15.621 --> 00:32:16.477 TRY TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PROGRESSIVE 00:32:16.488 --> 00:32:18.456 INFLUENTIAL PROGRESSIVE ORGANIZATIONS IN POLITICS. WE 00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:20.514 ORGANIZATIONS IN POLITICS. WE WILL TALK TO HIM. IT’S ONLY 00:32:20.525 --> 00:32:22.460 WILL TALK TO HIM. IT’S ONLY HERE ON MEET THE PRESS. NOW. 00:32:22.494 --> 00:32:24.028 HERE ON MEET THE PRESS. NOW. STAY WITH US. 00:32:24.095 --> 00:32:25.986 CONNECT WITH PEOPLE FOR NBC NEWS, NBC NEWS, I’M TOM GOMEZ, 00:32:25.997 --> 00:32:28.866 NEWS, NBC NEWS, I’M TOM GOMEZ, AND THAT’S WHAT WE DO EVERY 00:32:28.900 --> 00:32:32.359 AND THAT’S WHAT WE DO EVERY NIGHT. 00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:34.371 NIGHT. >> WELCOME BACK. AS DEMOCRATS 00:32:34.406 --> 00:32:35.963 >> WELCOME BACK. AS DEMOCRATS DEBATE ALL ASPECTS OF THE 00:32:35.974 --> 00:32:37.198 DEBATE ALL ASPECTS OF THE PARTY’S STRATEGY AND MESSAGING 00:32:37.209 --> 00:32:39.243 PARTY’S STRATEGY AND MESSAGING AHEAD OF NEXT YEAR’S MIDTERMS, 00:32:39.244 --> 00:32:41.102 AHEAD OF NEXT YEAR’S MIDTERMS, ONE VETERAN OPERATIVE WITH DEEP 00:32:41.113 --> 00:32:43.181 ONE VETERAN OPERATIVE WITH DEEP TIES TO THE PARTY IS CALLING 00:32:43.215 --> 00:32:44.939 TIES TO THE PARTY IS CALLING FOR A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS. 00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:47.217 FOR A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS. ADAM JENTLESON, WHO HAS WORKED 00:32:47.219 --> 00:32:48.910 ADAM JENTLESON, WHO HAS WORKED FOR EVERYONE FROM THE LATE 00:32:48.921 --> 00:32:50.087 FOR EVERYONE FROM THE LATE SENATOR HARRY REID TO JOHN 00:32:50.122 --> 00:32:51.479 SENATOR HARRY REID TO JOHN KERRY AND MOST RECENTLY SERVED 00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:52.823 KERRY AND MOST RECENTLY SERVED AS CHIEF OF STAFF TO 00:32:52.824 --> 00:32:53.924 AS CHIEF OF STAFF TO PENNSYLVANIA SENATOR JOHN 00:32:53.926 --> 00:32:56.094 PENNSYLVANIA SENATOR JOHN FETTERMAN, HAS LAUNCHED A NEW 00:32:56.128 --> 00:32:57.919 FETTERMAN, HAS LAUNCHED A NEW GROUP. IT’S CALLED SEARCHLIGHT 00:32:57.930 --> 00:32:59.521 GROUP. IT’S CALLED SEARCHLIGHT INSTITUTE, AIMED AT REFOCUSING 00:32:59.532 --> 00:33:01.222 INSTITUTE, AIMED AT REFOCUSING DEMOCRATIC MESSAGING AND 00:33:01.233 --> 00:33:02.990 DEMOCRATIC MESSAGING AND STRAYING AWAY FROM MORE 00:33:03.001 --> 00:33:05.069 STRAYING AWAY FROM MORE PROGRESSIVE TALKING POINTS AND 00:33:05.070 --> 00:33:06.928 PROGRESSIVE TALKING POINTS AND ISSUES. AND JOINING ME NOW TO 00:33:06.939 --> 00:33:09.164 ISSUES. AND JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS THIS NEW GROUP IS ADAM 00:33:09.175 --> 00:33:11.275 DISCUSS THIS NEW GROUP IS ADAM JENTLESON, THE FOUNDER OF THAT 00:33:11.276 --> 00:33:13.134 JENTLESON, THE FOUNDER OF THAT GROUP. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ADAM, 00:33:13.145 --> 00:33:15.146 GROUP. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ADAM, FOR JOINING US. WE REALLY 00:33:15.147 --> 00:33:15.470 FOR JOINING US. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 00:33:15.481 --> 00:33:16.047 APPRECIATE IT. >> ABSOLUTELY, KRISTEN. 00:33:16.048 --> 00:33:18.016 >> ABSOLUTELY, KRISTEN. >> IT’S GREAT TO BE HERE. 00:33:18.050 --> 00:33:20.051 >> IT’S GREAT TO BE HERE. >> WELL, IT’S GREAT TO HAVE YOU 00:33:20.052 --> 00:33:22.610 >> WELL, IT’S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. ADAM. LET ME JUST START 00:33:22.621 --> 00:33:24.255 HERE. ADAM. LET ME JUST START WITH THE BIG QUESTION. WHY DID 00:33:24.256 --> 00:33:25.146 WITH THE BIG QUESTION. WHY DID YOU WANT TO START THIS GROUP? 00:33:25.157 --> 00:33:27.225 YOU WANT TO START THIS GROUP? WHY DO YOU THINK IT’S TIME FOR 00:33:27.259 --> 00:33:29.150 WHY DO YOU THINK IT’S TIME FOR A NEW PATH FORWARD? 00:33:29.161 --> 00:33:30.051 A NEW PATH FORWARD? >> THAT’S A. GREAT QUESTION. 00:33:30.062 --> 00:33:30.985 >> THAT’S A. GREAT QUESTION. >> AND YOU. 00:33:30.996 --> 00:33:32.063 >> AND YOU. >> KNOW, THE REASON. 00:33:32.064 --> 00:33:33.364 >> KNOW, THE REASON. >> IS THAT FOR TOO LONG. 00:33:33.365 --> 00:33:35.333 >> IS THAT FOR TOO LONG. >> DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN LOCKED 00:33:35.367 --> 00:33:38.226 >> DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN LOCKED INTO A CULTURE OF RIGIDITY AND 00:33:38.237 --> 00:33:38.460 INTO A CULTURE OF RIGIDITY AND ORTHODOXY. 00:33:38.471 --> 00:33:39.260 ORTHODOXY. >> THAT I. 00:33:39.271 --> 00:33:39.594 >> THAT I. >> THINK HAS. 00:33:39.605 --> 00:33:41.172 >> THINK HAS. >> BEEN VERY DAMAGING TO. THE 00:33:41.173 --> 00:33:42.397 >> BEEN VERY DAMAGING TO. THE PARTY. AND I THINK THE KEY 00:33:42.408 --> 00:33:44.566 PARTY. AND I THINK THE KEY THING HERE IS THAT WHAT WE AT 00:33:44.577 --> 00:33:45.367 THING HERE IS THAT WHAT WE AT SEARCHLIGHT ARE ADVOCATING FOR 00:33:45.378 --> 00:33:47.211 SEARCHLIGHT ARE ADVOCATING FOR IS NOT MOVING RIGHT, LEFT OR 00:33:47.213 --> 00:33:49.071 IS NOT MOVING RIGHT, LEFT OR CENTER. IT IS. TO HAVE A MIX OF 00:33:49.082 --> 00:33:50.281 CENTER. IT IS. TO HAVE A MIX OF POLICY POSITIONS THAT REFLECTS 00:33:50.282 --> 00:33:52.049 POLICY POSITIONS THAT REFLECTS THE TRUE COMPLEXITY OF THE 00:33:52.084 --> 00:33:54.285 THE TRUE COMPLEXITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND FOR ABOUT 00:33:54.286 --> 00:33:55.176 AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, YOU’VE HAD THE 00:33:55.187 --> 00:33:55.943 TEN YEARS, YOU’VE HAD THE GROWTH. 00:33:55.954 --> 00:33:57.288 GROWTH. >> OF THIS MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR 00:33:57.289 --> 00:33:59.056 >> OF THIS MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INFLUENCE INDUSTRY. WHOSE 00:33:59.091 --> 00:33:59.314 INFLUENCE INDUSTRY. WHOSE PRIMARY. 00:33:59.325 --> 00:34:00.324 PRIMARY. >> GOAL HAS BEEN TO KEEP 00:34:00.326 --> 00:34:00.916 >> GOAL HAS BEEN TO KEEP DEMOCRATS. 00:34:00.927 --> 00:34:02.083 DEMOCRATS. >> IN ADHERENCE. 00:34:02.094 --> 00:34:05.063 >> IN ADHERENCE. >> TO A VERY. RIGID LIBERAL, 00:34:05.097 --> 00:34:06.054 >> TO A VERY. RIGID LIBERAL, ORTHODOX VIEWS. 00:34:06.065 --> 00:34:07.165 ORTHODOX VIEWS. >> AND THAT IS WHY. 00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:08.556 >> AND THAT IS WHY. >> DEMOCRATS HAVE. 00:34:08.567 --> 00:34:09.024 >> DEMOCRATS HAVE. >> LOST THE ABILITY TO. 00:34:09.035 --> 00:34:10.335 >> LOST THE ABILITY TO. >> COMPETE IN. 00:34:10.336 --> 00:34:11.293 >> COMPETE IN. >> RED STATES AND PURPLE STATES 00:34:11.304 --> 00:34:11.994 >> RED STATES AND PURPLE STATES AND. 00:34:12.005 --> 00:34:13.071 AND. >> SWING STATES. WHEN I WAS 00:34:13.105 --> 00:34:13.328 >> SWING STATES. WHEN I WAS WORKING. 00:34:13.339 --> 00:34:15.073 WORKING. >> IN THE SENATE IN 2009. 00:34:15.107 --> 00:34:16.130 >> IN THE SENATE IN 2009. >> DEMOCRATS HAD. 00:34:16.141 --> 00:34:17.332 >> DEMOCRATS HAD. >> 60 SENATE SEATS. WE HAD BOTH 00:34:17.343 --> 00:34:18.934 >> 60 SENATE SEATS. WE HAD BOTH SENATE SEATS IN ARKANSAS, BOTH 00:34:18.945 --> 00:34:21.780 SENATE SEATS IN ARKANSAS, BOTH SENATE SEATS IN WEST VIRGINIA. 00:34:21.814 --> 00:34:22.570 SENATE SEATS IN WEST VIRGINIA. A SEAT IN STATES. 00:34:22.581 --> 00:34:22.947 A SEAT IN STATES. >> LIKE LOUISIANA. 00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:24.283 >> LIKE LOUISIANA. >> NEBRASKA AND INDIANA. AND 00:34:24.317 --> 00:34:26.241 >> NEBRASKA AND INDIANA. AND WE’VE LOST OUR. ABILITY TO 00:34:26.252 --> 00:34:26.985 WE’VE LOST OUR. ABILITY TO COMPETE IN THOSE STATES. 00:34:27.019 --> 00:34:28.476 COMPETE IN THOSE STATES. >> BECAUSE WE’VE BECOME. 00:34:28.487 --> 00:34:29.120 >> BECAUSE WE’VE BECOME. >> TOO RIGID AS A PARTY. 00:34:29.122 --> 00:34:31.390 >> TOO RIGID AS A PARTY. >> SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO 00:34:31.424 --> 00:34:33.081 >> SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS BREAK OPEN THAT CULTURE OF 00:34:33.092 --> 00:34:34.293 IS BREAK OPEN THAT CULTURE OF RIGIDITY AND GET DEMOCRATS TO 00:34:34.327 --> 00:34:35.851 RIGIDITY AND GET DEMOCRATS TO THINK BIG AND TO THINK 00:34:35.862 --> 00:34:36.127 THINK BIG AND TO THINK CREATIVELY. 00:34:36.129 --> 00:34:37.653 CREATIVELY. >> AND ACROSS IDEOLOGICAL 00:34:37.664 --> 00:34:39.064 >> AND ACROSS IDEOLOGICAL BOUNDARIES ONCE AGAIN. 00:34:39.065 --> 00:34:40.122 BOUNDARIES ONCE AGAIN. >> WELL, LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT 00:34:40.133 --> 00:34:42.201 >> WELL, LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN PRACTICAL TERMS 00:34:42.235 --> 00:34:44.159 THAT MEANS IN PRACTICAL TERMS BASED ON WHAT I’VE READ. AND I 00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:45.971 BASED ON WHAT I’VE READ. AND I WANT YOUR TAKE, PART OF WHAT 00:34:45.972 --> 00:34:47.930 WANT YOUR TAKE, PART OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS WE NEED TO 00:34:47.941 --> 00:34:52.368 YOU WERE SAYING IS WE NEED TO FOCUS LESS ON ISSUES LIKE LGBTQ 00:34:52.379 --> 00:34:54.169 FOCUS LESS ON ISSUES LIKE LGBTQ RIGHTS, CLIMATE CHANGE. IS THAT 00:34:54.180 --> 00:34:56.138 RIGHTS, CLIMATE CHANGE. IS THAT ACCURATE? IS THAT AN ACCURATE 00:34:56.149 --> 00:34:58.083 ACCURATE? IS THAT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF PART OF YOUR 00:34:58.084 --> 00:34:58.340 DESCRIPTION OF PART OF YOUR STRATEGY? 00:34:58.351 --> 00:34:59.218 STRATEGY? >> NOT EXACTLY, BECAUSE. 00:34:59.252 --> 00:35:01.143 >> NOT EXACTLY, BECAUSE. >> I THINK WHAT. WHAT WE WOULD 00:35:01.154 --> 00:35:01.410 >> I THINK WHAT. WHAT WE WOULD ADVOCATE. 00:35:01.421 --> 00:35:02.954 ADVOCATE. >> FOR IS FOR DEMOCRATS TO BE 00:35:02.956 --> 00:35:05.424 >> FOR IS FOR DEMOCRATS TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHERE THE AMERICAN. 00:35:05.458 --> 00:35:06.248 CLEAR ABOUT WHERE THE AMERICAN. >> PEOPLE STAND. AND WE DO 00:35:06.259 --> 00:35:07.416 >> PEOPLE STAND. AND WE DO BELIEVE. THAT LEADERSHIP. 00:35:07.427 --> 00:35:08.084 BELIEVE. THAT LEADERSHIP. >> IS IMPORTANT. WE ARE NOT 00:35:08.095 --> 00:35:09.094 >> IS IMPORTANT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TELL. 00:35:09.095 --> 00:35:10.329 GOING TO TELL. >> DEMOCRATS TO ONLY TAKE 00:35:10.363 --> 00:35:12.287 >> DEMOCRATS TO ONLY TAKE POSITIONS THAT POLL. WELL OR 00:35:12.298 --> 00:35:12.688 POSITIONS THAT POLL. WELL OR ONLY TAKE POSITIONS. 00:35:12.699 --> 00:35:13.956 ONLY TAKE POSITIONS. >> THAT ARE. ALREADY POPULAR. 00:35:13.967 --> 00:35:14.390 >> THAT ARE. ALREADY POPULAR. WE THINK LEADERSHIP. 00:35:14.401 --> 00:35:15.258 WE THINK LEADERSHIP. >> IS IMPORTANT. 00:35:15.269 --> 00:35:17.593 >> IS IMPORTANT. >> AND SO WHAT WE THINK IS THAT 00:35:17.604 --> 00:35:18.037 >> AND SO WHAT WE THINK IS THAT DEMOCRATS BELIEVE. 00:35:18.071 --> 00:35:18.470 DEMOCRATS BELIEVE. >> VERY STRONGLY. 00:35:18.471 --> 00:35:20.162 >> VERY STRONGLY. >> THAT THEY WANT TO. 00:35:20.173 --> 00:35:22.331 >> THAT THEY WANT TO. >> LEAD OUT ON AN ISSUE SUCH AS 00:35:22.342 --> 00:35:23.075 >> LEAD OUT ON AN ISSUE SUCH AS TRANS RIGHTS OR CLIMATE CHANGE. 00:35:23.076 --> 00:35:24.276 TRANS RIGHTS OR CLIMATE CHANGE. >> THEY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO 00:35:24.277 --> 00:35:25.844 >> THEY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, AND WE WILL SUPPORT THEM 00:35:25.879 --> 00:35:26.178 THAT, AND WE WILL SUPPORT THEM IN DOING SO. 00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:27.102 IN DOING SO. >> BUT WHAT. 00:35:27.113 --> 00:35:29.148 >> BUT WHAT. >> WE WANT THEM TO KNOW IS 00:35:29.182 --> 00:35:30.039 >> WE WANT THEM TO KNOW IS WHERE THEY STAND WITH THE 00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:31.116 WHERE THEY STAND WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND FOR TOO 00:35:31.117 --> 00:35:33.051 AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND FOR TOO LONG, WE HAVE CREATED AN 00:35:33.086 --> 00:35:34.143 LONG, WE HAVE CREATED AN INFORMATION CULTURE THAT HAS 00:35:34.154 --> 00:35:35.177 INFORMATION CULTURE THAT HAS BASICALLY LIED TO DEMOCRATS 00:35:35.188 --> 00:35:35.511 BASICALLY LIED TO DEMOCRATS WITH NUMBERS. 00:35:35.522 --> 00:35:36.012 WITH NUMBERS. >> AND CAUSED. 00:35:36.023 --> 00:35:37.813 >> AND CAUSED. >> THEM TO BELIEVE THAT ALL OF 00:35:37.824 --> 00:35:38.824 >> THEM TO BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE ALREADY 00:35:38.825 --> 00:35:39.858 THESE ISSUES ARE ALREADY POPULAR WITH THE AMERICAN 00:35:39.893 --> 00:35:40.116 POPULAR WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 00:35:40.127 --> 00:35:41.984 PEOPLE. >> AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WE 00:35:41.995 --> 00:35:43.128 >> AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WE NEED TO SORT OF. 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:43.963 NEED TO SORT OF. >> BRING SOME HYGIENE BACK TO 00:35:43.997 --> 00:35:45.120 >> BRING SOME HYGIENE BACK TO THIS INFORMATION CULTURE AND 00:35:45.131 --> 00:35:46.322 THIS INFORMATION CULTURE AND HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE. 00:35:46.333 --> 00:35:47.266 HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE. >> THE AMERICAN. 00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:48.457 >> THE AMERICAN. >> PEOPLE ACTUALLY STAND, SO. 00:35:48.468 --> 00:35:49.001 >> PEOPLE ACTUALLY STAND, SO. >> THAT IF. 00:35:49.002 --> 00:35:50.269 >> THAT IF. >> THERE ARE CORE ISSUES WHERE 00:35:50.303 --> 00:35:52.227 >> THERE ARE CORE ISSUES WHERE DEMOCRATS WANT TO LEAD OUT ON. 00:35:52.238 --> 00:35:53.095 DEMOCRATS WANT TO LEAD OUT ON. >> BECAUSE IT’S VERY IMPORTANT 00:35:53.106 --> 00:35:54.073 >> BECAUSE IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM OR TO THE 00:35:54.107 --> 00:35:55.030 TO THEM OR TO THE CONSTITUENCIES. 00:35:55.041 --> 00:35:56.232 CONSTITUENCIES. >> THEY REPRESENT, THEN BY ALL 00:35:56.243 --> 00:35:57.643 >> THEY REPRESENT, THEN BY ALL MEANS THEY SHOULD. 00:35:57.644 --> 00:35:58.577 MEANS THEY SHOULD. >> DO SO, AND SEARCHLIGHT WILL 00:35:58.612 --> 00:35:59.235 >> DO SO, AND SEARCHLIGHT WILL BE RIGHT THERE. 00:35:59.246 --> 00:36:00.145 BE RIGHT THERE. >> SUPPORTING THEM. 00:36:00.147 --> 00:36:01.180 >> SUPPORTING THEM. >> BUT WHAT. 00:36:01.214 --> 00:36:02.071 >> BUT WHAT. >> WE’VE DONE IS WE’VE GOTTEN 00:36:02.082 --> 00:36:03.082 >> WE’VE DONE IS WE’VE GOTTEN OUT IN FRONT OF. 00:36:03.116 --> 00:36:04.316 OUT IN FRONT OF. >> THE PUBLIC OPINION. 00:36:04.318 --> 00:36:06.719 >> THE PUBLIC OPINION. >> NOT JUST ON ONE OR 2 OR 3 00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:08.821 >> NOT JUST ON ONE OR 2 OR 3 ISSUES, BUT ON 5 TO 10 ISSUES. 00:36:08.822 --> 00:36:10.179 ISSUES, BUT ON 5 TO 10 ISSUES. AND THAT IS A BIG PART. 00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:10.356 AND THAT IS A BIG PART. >> OF. 00:36:10.357 --> 00:36:11.991 >> OF. >> WHY DEMOCRATS HAVE COME TO 00:36:12.025 --> 00:36:12.381 >> WHY DEMOCRATS HAVE COME TO FIND THEMSELVES. 00:36:12.392 --> 00:36:13.149 FIND THEMSELVES. >> OUT OF POWER, AS. 00:36:13.160 --> 00:36:14.317 >> OUT OF POWER, AS. >> WE HAVE TODAY. 00:36:14.328 --> 00:36:15.952 >> WE HAVE TODAY. >> WHAT IS THE REACTION THAT 00:36:15.963 --> 00:36:17.754 >> WHAT IS THE REACTION THAT YOU’RE GETTING SO FAR, ADAM? 00:36:17.765 --> 00:36:19.065 YOU’RE GETTING SO FAR, ADAM? HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY BACKLASH TO 00:36:19.066 --> 00:36:20.166 HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY BACKLASH TO THIS STRATEGY WHERE YOU’RE 00:36:20.167 --> 00:36:21.567 THIS STRATEGY WHERE YOU’RE BASICALLY SAYING, LET’S BE 00:36:21.568 --> 00:36:22.201 BASICALLY SAYING, LET’S BE PRACTICAL MOVING FORWARD? LET’S 00:36:22.236 --> 00:36:23.727 PRACTICAL MOVING FORWARD? LET’S LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. ARE 00:36:23.738 --> 00:36:24.937 LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. ARE YOU BRACING FOR BACKLASH? 00:36:24.938 --> 00:36:27.096 YOU BRACING FOR BACKLASH? >> OH, WE’VE GOTTEN SOME. 00:36:27.107 --> 00:36:29.332 >> OH, WE’VE GOTTEN SOME. >> AND WE KNEW WE WOULD. AND 00:36:29.343 --> 00:36:30.176 >> AND WE KNEW WE WOULD. AND THAT’S YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT 00:36:30.177 --> 00:36:32.135 THAT’S YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS. 00:36:32.146 --> 00:36:32.345 WE’RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS. >> TO. 00:36:32.346 --> 00:36:33.937 >> TO. >> INTRODUCE A CULTURE WHERE WE 00:36:33.948 --> 00:36:35.015 >> INTRODUCE A CULTURE WHERE WE GO BACK TO. 00:36:35.049 --> 00:36:36.273 GO BACK TO. >> SAYING THE THINGS THAT WE 00:36:36.284 --> 00:36:37.874 >> SAYING THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE OUT LOUD IN. PUBLIC AND 00:36:37.885 --> 00:36:39.142 BELIEVE OUT LOUD IN. PUBLIC AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY 00:36:39.153 --> 00:36:39.319 LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY. 00:36:39.353 --> 00:36:41.377 MAY. >> I THINK WE’VE HAD A CULTURE. 00:36:41.388 --> 00:36:42.121 >> I THINK WE’VE HAD A CULTURE. >> THAT HAS SORT. 00:36:42.156 --> 00:36:44.047 >> THAT HAS SORT. >> OF TRIED TO SUPPRESS PEOPLE 00:36:44.058 --> 00:36:44.357 >> OF TRIED TO SUPPRESS PEOPLE FROM SAYING. 00:36:44.358 --> 00:36:45.381 FROM SAYING. >> THINGS THAT. THEY TRULY 00:36:45.392 --> 00:36:46.226 >> THINGS THAT. THEY TRULY BELIEVE. 00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:47.050 BELIEVE. >> I THINK THERE VERY FEW. 00:36:47.061 --> 00:36:48.118 >> I THINK THERE VERY FEW. CANDIDATES OUT THERE WHO 00:36:48.129 --> 00:36:49.152 CANDIDATES OUT THERE WHO BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE. 00:36:49.163 --> 00:36:50.387 BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE. >> LEFT WING POSITION ON. 00:36:50.398 --> 00:36:51.964 >> LEFT WING POSITION ON. >> EVERY ISSUE, BUT THEY FELT. 00:36:51.966 --> 00:36:53.190 >> EVERY ISSUE, BUT THEY FELT. >> LIKE THEY’VE HAD TO SAY IT. 00:36:53.201 --> 00:36:54.634 >> LIKE THEY’VE HAD TO SAY IT. >> AND SO. 00:36:54.668 --> 00:36:55.258 >> AND SO. >> YOU KNOW. 00:36:55.269 --> 00:36:56.059 >> YOU KNOW. >> THE REACTION IS PART OF. 00:36:56.070 --> 00:36:58.271 >> THE REACTION IS PART OF. WHAT WE ARE GOING FOR HERE. WE 00:36:58.272 --> 00:36:59.229 WHAT WE ARE GOING FOR HERE. WE THINK IF. 00:36:59.240 --> 00:37:00.063 THINK IF. >> WE WERE NOT CAUSING. 00:37:00.074 --> 00:37:00.964 >> WE WERE NOT CAUSING. >> SOME PEOPLE TO. 00:37:00.975 --> 00:37:02.042 >> SOME PEOPLE TO. >> GET UPSET. 00:37:02.076 --> 00:37:02.432 >> GET UPSET. >> WE WOULDN’T. 00:37:02.443 --> 00:37:04.745 >> WE WOULDN’T. >> BE DOING OUR JOBS. RIGHT. SO 00:37:04.779 --> 00:37:05.936 >> BE DOING OUR JOBS. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE HAD IT. WE’RE NOT 00:37:05.947 --> 00:37:06.246 WE HAVE HAD IT. WE’RE NOT DAUNTED BY IT. 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.204 DAUNTED BY IT. >> WE THINK THAT’S PART OF A 00:37:08.215 --> 00:37:09.549 >> WE THINK THAT’S PART OF A SIGNAL. THAT WE’RE. 00:37:09.583 --> 00:37:10.473 SIGNAL. THAT WE’RE. >> DOING OUR JOBS RIGHT. 00:37:10.484 --> 00:37:12.175 >> DOING OUR JOBS RIGHT. >> BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS STAY. 00:37:12.186 --> 00:37:13.309 >> BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS STAY. COMMITTED TO OUR CORE 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:13.586 COMMITTED TO OUR CORE COMMITMENTS. 00:37:13.588 --> 00:37:15.355 COMMITMENTS. >> OF. TELLING THE TRUTH. 00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:16.145 >> OF. TELLING THE TRUTH. >> OF BEING TRANSPARENT AND 00:37:16.156 --> 00:37:16.556 >> OF BEING TRANSPARENT AND PUTTING INFORMATION. 00:37:16.591 --> 00:37:18.082 PUTTING INFORMATION. >> OUT THERE THAT WE BELIEVE TO 00:37:18.093 --> 00:37:19.192 >> OUT THERE THAT WE BELIEVE TO BE TRUE. AND THAT’S WHAT. 00:37:19.193 --> 00:37:21.151 BE TRUE. AND THAT’S WHAT. >> WE’RE GOING TO DO. 00:37:21.162 --> 00:37:22.261 >> WE’RE GOING TO DO. >> ADAM, I WONDER IF YOU CAN 00:37:22.296 --> 00:37:24.053 >> ADAM, I WONDER IF YOU CAN TAKE US INSIDE YOUR TIME FRAME 00:37:24.064 --> 00:37:25.622 TAKE US INSIDE YOUR TIME FRAME FOR THIS. IS THIS SOMETHING 00:37:25.633 --> 00:37:27.124 FOR THIS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK 00:37:27.135 --> 00:37:27.992 THAT YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK YOUR GROUP CAN MAKE REAL 00:37:28.003 --> 00:37:29.202 YOUR GROUP CAN MAKE REAL INROADS AHEAD OF THE MIDTERMS? 00:37:29.203 --> 00:37:31.137 INROADS AHEAD OF THE MIDTERMS? OR ARE YOU LOOKING MORE AT THE 00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:31.872 OR ARE YOU LOOKING MORE AT THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? 00:37:31.906 --> 00:37:33.006 NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? >> I THINK WE. 00:37:33.007 --> 00:37:34.598 >> I THINK WE. >> CAN MAKE AN IMPACT RIGHT 00:37:34.609 --> 00:37:34.808 >> CAN MAKE AN IMPACT RIGHT AWAY. 00:37:34.809 --> 00:37:36.066 AWAY. >> I THINK. I THINK WE ALREADY 00:37:36.077 --> 00:37:36.242 >> I THINK. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE. 00:37:36.244 --> 00:37:38.035 HAVE. >> WE LAUNCHED ON WEDNESDAY AND 00:37:38.046 --> 00:37:39.079 >> WE LAUNCHED ON WEDNESDAY AND WE’VE ALREADY MADE A BIG 00:37:39.113 --> 00:37:39.369 WE’VE ALREADY MADE A BIG REACTION. 00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:41.014 REACTION. >> I’M HERE TALKING TO YOU. AND 00:37:41.015 --> 00:37:43.116 >> I’M HERE TALKING TO YOU. AND WE ARE. WE ARE, I THINK, IN THE 00:37:43.117 --> 00:37:45.685 WE ARE. WE ARE, I THINK, IN THE MINDS OF A LOT OF FOLKS ALREADY. 00:37:45.720 --> 00:37:45.943 MINDS OF A LOT OF FOLKS ALREADY. >> AND. 00:37:45.954 --> 00:37:47.444 >> AND. >> YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO BE 00:37:47.455 --> 00:37:49.189 >> YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT A HIGH. VOLUME OF 00:37:49.223 --> 00:37:49.446 PUTTING OUT A HIGH. VOLUME OF POLLING. 00:37:49.457 --> 00:37:49.914 POLLING. >> DATA. 00:37:49.925 --> 00:37:51.515 >> DATA. >> A HIGH VOLUME OF CREATIVE. 00:37:51.526 --> 00:37:52.149 >> A HIGH VOLUME OF CREATIVE. UNORTHODOX ISSUES STARTING 00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:53.217 UNORTHODOX ISSUES STARTING RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK. 00:37:53.228 --> 00:37:54.994 RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK. >> WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF 00:37:55.029 --> 00:37:55.328 >> WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. 00:37:55.330 --> 00:37:57.087 INFORMATION. >> OUT THERE THAT WILL BE 00:37:57.098 --> 00:37:57.464 >> OUT THERE THAT WILL BE USEFUL TO PEOPLE. 00:37:57.465 --> 00:37:57.998 USEFUL TO PEOPLE. >> IN THE. 00:37:58.032 --> 00:37:58.922 >> IN THE. >> MIDTERMS. 00:37:58.933 --> 00:37:59.933 >> MIDTERMS. >> BUT IN PARTICULAR. 00:37:59.934 --> 00:38:01.491 >> BUT IN PARTICULAR. >> LOOKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, A 00:38:01.502 --> 00:38:02.626 >> LOOKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING TOWARDS A SYNTHESIS OF 00:38:02.637 --> 00:38:03.570 BUILDING TOWARDS A SYNTHESIS OF A COMPREHENSIVE AGENDA IN. 00:38:03.571 --> 00:38:04.137 A COMPREHENSIVE AGENDA IN. >> 2027 AND 2020. 00:38:04.139 --> 00:38:05.139 >> 2027 AND 2020. >> AND 2028. 00:38:05.140 --> 00:38:07.608 >> AND 2028. >> ADAM, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU 00:38:07.642 --> 00:38:08.265 >> ADAM, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR FORMER BOSS, SENATOR 00:38:08.276 --> 00:38:10.134 ABOUT YOUR FORMER BOSS, SENATOR JOHN FETTERMAN. LAST YEAR, YOU 00:38:10.145 --> 00:38:11.012 JOHN FETTERMAN. LAST YEAR, YOU RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT HIS 00:38:11.045 --> 00:38:13.146 RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT HIS MENTAL HEALTH AS HE CONTINUED 00:38:13.148 --> 00:38:15.206 MENTAL HEALTH AS HE CONTINUED TO RECOVER FROM THE STROKE HE 00:38:15.217 --> 00:38:16.417 TO RECOVER FROM THE STROKE HE SUFFERED DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. 00:38:16.451 --> 00:38:19.009 SUFFERED DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. HE CALLED IT A, QUOTE, HIT 00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:21.222 HE CALLED IT A, QUOTE, HIT PIECE. I WONDER HOW TOUGH OF A 00:38:21.256 --> 00:38:23.781 PIECE. I WONDER HOW TOUGH OF A DECISION IT WAS FOR YOU TO 00:38:23.792 --> 00:38:25.182 DECISION IT WAS FOR YOU TO LEAVE HIS OFFICE. 00:38:25.193 --> 00:38:26.293 LEAVE HIS OFFICE. >> IT WAS. 00:38:26.294 --> 00:38:29.086 >> IT WAS. >> IT WAS REALLY HARD. AND I. 00:38:29.097 --> 00:38:30.354 >> IT WAS REALLY HARD. AND I. >> THINK I STILL FEEL A 00:38:30.365 --> 00:38:31.932 >> THINK I STILL FEEL A TREMENDOUS. AMOUNT OF 00:38:31.967 --> 00:38:33.124 TREMENDOUS. AMOUNT OF COMPASSION TOWARDS HIM. 00:38:33.135 --> 00:38:34.692 COMPASSION TOWARDS HIM. >> I THINK. 00:38:34.703 --> 00:38:36.070 >> I THINK. >> THAT ULTIMATELY I FELT 00:38:36.071 --> 00:38:36.337 >> THAT ULTIMATELY I FELT COMPELLED. 00:38:36.371 --> 00:38:37.671 COMPELLED. >> TO SAY. 00:38:37.672 --> 00:38:38.896 >> TO SAY. >> THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT. 00:38:38.907 --> 00:38:40.641 >> THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT. >> I BELIEVE IS. 00:38:40.675 --> 00:38:43.877 >> I BELIEVE IS. >> A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION 00:38:43.879 --> 00:38:45.737 >> A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION AND CONDITION. AND THAT’S, YOU 00:38:45.748 --> 00:38:48.249 AND CONDITION. AND THAT’S, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE. 00:38:48.283 --> 00:38:49.340 KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE. >> TO SAY. 00:38:49.351 --> 00:38:50.083 >> TO SAY. >> ABOUT THAT. I WISH. 00:38:50.085 --> 00:38:52.019 >> ABOUT THAT. I WISH. >> HIM ALL THE BEST. 00:38:52.020 --> 00:38:54.178 >> HIM ALL THE BEST. >> BUT I THINK THE TRUTH IS THE 00:38:54.189 --> 00:38:54.979 >> BUT I THINK THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH. AND IT’S. REALLY 00:38:54.990 --> 00:38:57.658 TRUTH. AND IT’S. REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE OF 00:38:57.693 --> 00:38:58.383 IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA AND THE AMERICAN 00:38:58.394 --> 00:39:00.217 PENNSYLVANIA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN GENERAL TO TO KNOW 00:39:00.228 --> 00:39:01.762 PEOPLE IN GENERAL TO TO KNOW THE TRUTH. 00:39:01.797 --> 00:39:03.898 THE TRUTH. >> WELL, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, 00:39:03.899 --> 00:39:05.256 >> WELL, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, AND THIS KIND OF FITS INTO THE 00:39:05.267 --> 00:39:07.124 AND THIS KIND OF FITS INTO THE BROADER QUESTION ABOUT STRATEGY 00:39:07.135 --> 00:39:07.968 BROADER QUESTION ABOUT STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. SENATOR 00:39:08.003 --> 00:39:09.126 MOVING FORWARD. SENATOR FETTERMAN JUST MADE SOME 00:39:09.137 --> 00:39:10.995 FETTERMAN JUST MADE SOME COMMENTS THAT GOT A LOT OF 00:39:11.006 --> 00:39:12.473 COMMENTS THAT GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION, BASICALLY SAYING 00:39:12.507 --> 00:39:15.866 ATTENTION, BASICALLY SAYING THAT HE DOES NOT THINK THAT 00:39:15.877 --> 00:39:17.335 THAT HE DOES NOT THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE 00:39:17.346 --> 00:39:19.037 PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE DESCRIBED AS AN AUTOCRAT. HE 00:39:19.048 --> 00:39:20.414 DESCRIBED AS AN AUTOCRAT. HE SAYS IF YOU ACTUALLY COMPARE 00:39:20.415 --> 00:39:22.006 SAYS IF YOU ACTUALLY COMPARE HIM TO AN ACTUAL AUTOCRAT, THAT 00:39:22.017 --> 00:39:24.318 HIM TO AN ACTUAL AUTOCRAT, THAT IS NOT JUST THAT HE HAS A BACK 00:39:24.319 --> 00:39:26.353 IS NOT JUST THAT HE HAS A BACK AND FORTH AND HE SAYS, I JUST 00:39:26.355 --> 00:39:28.122 AND FORTH AND HE SAYS, I JUST DON’T AGREE WITH MANY OF THE 00:39:28.123 --> 00:39:29.123 DON’T AGREE WITH MANY OF THE THINGS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. 00:39:29.124 --> 00:39:30.324 THINGS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM AN 00:39:30.325 --> 00:39:32.259 BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM AN AUTOCRAT. DO YOU AGREE WITH 00:39:32.261 --> 00:39:34.562 AUTOCRAT. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT MESSAGE FROM SENATOR 00:39:34.563 --> 00:39:37.131 THAT MESSAGE FROM SENATOR FETTERMAN, OR DO YOU SIDE AND 00:39:37.132 --> 00:39:39.867 FETTERMAN, OR DO YOU SIDE AND WOULD YOU ADVOCATE FOR A 00:39:39.868 --> 00:39:40.968 WOULD YOU ADVOCATE FOR A STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES USING 00:39:40.970 --> 00:39:43.104 STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES USING WORDS LIKE AUTOCRACY TO 00:39:43.138 --> 00:39:44.061 WORDS LIKE AUTOCRACY TO DESCRIBE WHAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT 00:39:44.072 --> 00:39:44.906 DESCRIBE WHAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? 00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:46.063 NOW? >> I THINK. 00:39:46.074 --> 00:39:47.141 >> I THINK. >> SENATOR FETTERMAN IS. 00:39:47.142 --> 00:39:49.033 >> SENATOR FETTERMAN IS. >> FREE TO DESCRIBE THINGS THE 00:39:49.044 --> 00:39:50.344 >> FREE TO DESCRIBE THINGS THE WAY HE WANTS TO. 00:39:50.346 --> 00:39:53.315 WAY HE WANTS TO. >> I THINK DEMOCRATS SHOULD 00:39:53.349 --> 00:39:54.549 >> I THINK DEMOCRATS SHOULD SPEAK THEIR MIND VERY CLEARLY. 00:39:54.550 --> 00:39:56.851 SPEAK THEIR MIND VERY CLEARLY. I THINK THE THINGS THAT 00:39:56.852 --> 00:39:57.308 I THINK THE THINGS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP. HAVE 00:39:57.319 --> 00:39:59.077 PRESIDENT TRUMP. HAVE UNEQUIVOCALLY, CLEARLY RAISED. 00:39:59.088 --> 00:40:00.322 UNEQUIVOCALLY, CLEARLY RAISED. SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 00:40:00.356 --> 00:40:01.246 SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RULE. OF LAW. 00:40:01.257 --> 00:40:02.280 RULE. OF LAW. >> AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF. 00:40:02.291 --> 00:40:04.259 >> AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF. >> POWER IN THE EXECUTIVE 00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:05.227 >> POWER IN THE EXECUTIVE BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN 00:40:05.261 --> 00:40:07.319 BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN MANY, MANY YEARS AND 00:40:07.330 --> 00:40:07.986 MANY, MANY YEARS AND POTENTIALLY EVER IN THE. 00:40:07.997 --> 00:40:09.855 POTENTIALLY EVER IN THE. >> PRESIDENCY HERE IN AMERICA. 00:40:09.866 --> 00:40:11.866 >> PRESIDENCY HERE IN AMERICA. SO I THINK. THAT THERE. 00:40:11.867 --> 00:40:13.234 SO I THINK. THAT THERE. >> IS IMPORTANT NOT TO DOWNPLAY 00:40:13.269 --> 00:40:15.427 >> IS IMPORTANT NOT TO DOWNPLAY THOSE CONCERNS, EVEN AS. WE 00:40:15.438 --> 00:40:16.938 THOSE CONCERNS, EVEN AS. WE DEBATE OVER, OVER THE USE OF 00:40:16.973 --> 00:40:17.229 DEBATE OVER, OVER THE USE OF LANGUAGE. 00:40:17.240 --> 00:40:18.163 LANGUAGE. >> BUT I THINK. WHAT SENATOR 00:40:18.174 --> 00:40:19.007 >> BUT I THINK. WHAT SENATOR FETTERMAN IS DOING. 00:40:19.008 --> 00:40:20.342 FETTERMAN IS DOING. >> IS REALLY. 00:40:20.376 --> 00:40:21.233 >> IS REALLY. >> SORT OF ZEROING IN ON. 00:40:21.244 --> 00:40:22.901 >> SORT OF ZEROING IN ON. >> ON LANGUAGE. 00:40:22.912 --> 00:40:23.869 >> ON LANGUAGE. >> AND SEMANTIC CONCERNS. 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:24.346 >> AND SEMANTIC CONCERNS. >> THAT I THINK ARE. 00:40:24.380 --> 00:40:25.704 >> THAT I THINK ARE. >> PROBABLY. 00:40:25.715 --> 00:40:26.447 >> PROBABLY. >> NOT CORE. TO THE. 00:40:26.482 --> 00:40:28.239 >> NOT CORE. TO THE. >> REAL ISSUES AT STAKE HERE. 00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:29.150 >> REAL ISSUES AT STAKE HERE. >> AND JUST BIG PICTURE, ADAM, 00:40:29.185 --> 00:40:31.143 >> AND JUST BIG PICTURE, ADAM, AS YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE 00:40:31.154 --> 00:40:32.220 AS YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE MIDTERMS, AS YOU LOOK TOWARDS 00:40:32.221 --> 00:40:32.987 MIDTERMS, AS YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, 00:40:32.989 --> 00:40:33.989 THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THE BIG DIVIDE IN THE 00:40:33.990 --> 00:40:35.681 THE BIG DIVIDE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IS IT TIME 00:40:35.692 --> 00:40:37.458 DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IS IT TIME FOR DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT FIRE 00:40:37.493 --> 00:40:39.184 FOR DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE? HOW DO YOU SEE THIS 00:40:39.195 --> 00:40:40.595 WITH FIRE? HOW DO YOU SEE THIS BATTLE PLAYING OUT? 00:40:40.596 --> 00:40:42.053 BATTLE PLAYING OUT? >> I THINK IT IS. 00:40:42.064 --> 00:40:43.031 >> I THINK IT IS. >> ABSOLUTELY TIME FOR 00:40:43.032 --> 00:40:45.033 >> ABSOLUTELY TIME FOR DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT. 00:40:45.034 --> 00:40:46.892 DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT. >> I THINK ONE OF THE MISTAKEN. 00:40:46.903 --> 00:40:48.070 >> I THINK ONE OF THE MISTAKEN. ASSUMPTIONS WE’VE BEEN WORKING 00:40:48.104 --> 00:40:49.204 ASSUMPTIONS WE’VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ABOUT TEN. 00:40:49.205 --> 00:40:51.997 ON FOR ABOUT TEN. >> YEARS NOW IS THAT THAT FIGHT 00:40:52.008 --> 00:40:52.231 >> YEARS NOW IS THAT THAT FIGHT HAS TO. 00:40:52.242 --> 00:40:53.341 HAS TO. >> COME BY MOVING. 00:40:53.343 --> 00:40:55.401 >> COME BY MOVING. >> FAR TO THE LEFT ACROSS A 00:40:55.412 --> 00:40:56.478 >> FAR TO THE LEFT ACROSS A RANGE OF ISSUES. 00:40:56.512 --> 00:40:57.302 RANGE OF ISSUES. >> AND I THINK YOU’RE EVEN 00:40:57.313 --> 00:40:58.170 >> AND I THINK YOU’RE EVEN SEEING A. 00:40:58.181 --> 00:40:59.247 SEEING A. >> RECOGNITION OF. 00:40:59.249 --> 00:40:59.582 >> RECOGNITION OF. >> THAT FROM. 00:40:59.616 --> 00:41:00.940 >> THAT FROM. >> FOLKS ON THE LEFT. 00:41:00.951 --> 00:41:02.141 >> FOLKS ON THE LEFT. >> I THINK THE WAY. 00:41:02.152 --> 00:41:03.351 >> I THINK THE WAY. >> TO WIN THIS FIGHT THAT. 00:41:03.353 --> 00:41:04.453 >> TO WIN THIS FIGHT THAT. >> WE ARE PITTED. 00:41:04.454 --> 00:41:04.944 >> WE ARE PITTED. >> IN. 00:41:04.955 --> 00:41:06.988 >> IN. >> WHICH I THINK IS THE STAKES 00:41:07.023 --> 00:41:08.247 >> WHICH I THINK IS THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER, IS TO 00:41:08.258 --> 00:41:09.848 COULD NOT BE HIGHER, IS TO BUILD AS BIG AND BROAD A 00:41:09.859 --> 00:41:11.193 BUILD AS BIG AND BROAD A COALITION AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 00:41:11.227 --> 00:41:12.484 COALITION AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES. 00:41:12.495 --> 00:41:14.296 >> TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES. >> THAT WILL ALLOW DEMOCRATS TO 00:41:14.330 --> 00:41:15.086 >> THAT WILL ALLOW DEMOCRATS TO ONCE AGAIN WIN IN THOSE. 00:41:15.097 --> 00:41:17.198 ONCE AGAIN WIN IN THOSE. >> KINDS OF STATES THAT. 00:41:17.233 --> 00:41:17.432 >> KINDS OF STATES THAT. >> WE. 00:41:17.434 --> 00:41:18.457 >> WE. >> USED TO REPRESENT AS 00:41:18.468 --> 00:41:19.168 >> USED TO REPRESENT AS RECENTLY AS THE OBAMA 00:41:19.169 --> 00:41:20.202 RECENTLY AS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. THAT IS THE. 00:41:20.236 --> 00:41:22.127 ADMINISTRATION. THAT IS THE. >> WAY TO OVERCOME THE 00:41:22.138 --> 00:41:22.437 >> WAY TO OVERCOME THE STRUCTURAL. 00:41:22.439 --> 00:41:23.930 STRUCTURAL. >> FORCES THAT WE FACE TODAY. 00:41:23.941 --> 00:41:25.564 >> FORCES THAT WE FACE TODAY. BUT THAT HAS TO BE ABOUT 00:41:25.575 --> 00:41:26.409 BUT THAT HAS TO BE ABOUT BUILDING A BIG TENT. AND THERE 00:41:26.443 --> 00:41:27.199 BUILDING A BIG TENT. AND THERE IS NO. 00:41:27.210 --> 00:41:27.943 IS NO. >> CONTRADICTION BETWEEN A. 00:41:27.944 --> 00:41:29.268 >> CONTRADICTION BETWEEN A. >> BIG TENT STRATEGY AND A 00:41:29.279 --> 00:41:30.713 >> BIG TENT STRATEGY AND A STRATEGY THAT’S DEDICATED TO 00:41:30.747 --> 00:41:31.904 STRATEGY THAT’S DEDICATED TO FIGHTING. IN FACT, I WOULD 00:41:31.915 --> 00:41:33.181 FIGHTING. IN FACT, I WOULD ARGUE. THAT THOSE ADVOCATING 00:41:33.183 --> 00:41:34.340 ARGUE. THAT THOSE ADVOCATING FOR BIG TENT STRATEGY, FOR. 00:41:34.351 --> 00:41:35.284 FOR BIG TENT STRATEGY, FOR. THOSE LIKE US WHO. 00:41:35.285 --> 00:41:36.218 THOSE LIKE US WHO. >> ARE. ADVOCATING THAT TRADE 00:41:36.253 --> 00:41:36.976 >> ARE. ADVOCATING THAT TRADE OFFS. 00:41:36.987 --> 00:41:38.320 OFFS. >> ARE. A REAL. 00:41:38.355 --> 00:41:39.078 >> ARE. A REAL. >> AND NECESSARY PART. 00:41:39.089 --> 00:41:40.379 >> AND NECESSARY PART. >> OF POLITICS, WE ARE THE. 00:41:40.390 --> 00:41:42.024 >> OF POLITICS, WE ARE THE. >> ONES WHO ARE GOING TO LEAD 00:41:42.058 --> 00:41:42.981 >> ONES WHO ARE GOING TO LEAD US TO A. 00:41:42.992 --> 00:41:44.450 US TO A. >> STRATEGY THAT ENABLES US. 00:41:44.461 --> 00:41:45.428 >> STRATEGY THAT ENABLES US. >> TO BEAT. 00:41:45.462 --> 00:41:46.485 >> TO BEAT. >> BACK THESE DANGEROUS FORCES 00:41:46.496 --> 00:41:47.086 >> BACK THESE DANGEROUS FORCES THAT ARE THREATENING OUR 00:41:47.097 --> 00:41:47.353 THAT ARE THREATENING OUR DEMOCRACY. 00:41:47.364 --> 00:41:49.232 DEMOCRACY. >> ALL RIGHT. ADAM JENTLESON, 00:41:49.266 --> 00:41:50.990 >> ALL RIGHT. ADAM JENTLESON, SO FANTASTIC TO HAVE YOU TODAY. 00:41:51.001 --> 00:41:52.234 SO FANTASTIC TO HAVE YOU TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE REALLY 00:41:52.269 --> 00:41:53.960 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND COMING UP 00:41:53.971 --> 00:41:56.028 APPRECIATE IT. AND COMING UP NEXT, A KEY VACCINE ADVISORY 00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:57.206 NEXT, A KEY VACCINE ADVISORY PANEL JUST VOTED AGAINST 00:41:57.207 --> 00:41:59.542 PANEL JUST VOTED AGAINST RECOMMENDING THE COVID 19 00:41:59.576 --> 00:42:01.677 RECOMMENDING THE COVID 19 VACCINE FOR ALL AGES AS IT EYES 00:42:01.678 --> 00:42:02.301 VACCINE FOR ALL AGES AS IT EYES A POTENTIAL OVERHAUL OF 00:42:02.312 --> 00:42:03.903 A POTENTIAL OVERHAUL OF CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS IN 00:42:03.914 --> 00:42:07.550 CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS IN AMERICA. WE’RE LIVE AT THE CDC. 00:42:07.584 --> 00:42:09.251 AMERICA. WE’RE LIVE AT THE CDC. STAY WITH US ON MEET THE PRESS 00:42:09.253 --> 00:42:09.752 STAY WITH US ON MEET THE PRESS NOW. 00:42:09.753 --> 00:42:11.911 NOW. >> EVERY NIGHT TAKING YOU TO 00:42:11.922 --> 00:42:13.889 >> EVERY NIGHT TAKING YOU TO THE STORY WEEKNIGHTS ON NBC 00:42:13.890 --> 00:42:18.093 THE STORY WEEKNIGHTS ON NBC NEWS NOW. 00:42:18.095 --> 00:42:19.963 NEWS NOW. >> WELCOME BACK. THE SECOND DAY 00:42:19.997 --> 00:42:22.198 >> WELCOME BACK. THE SECOND DAY OF A CRITICAL TWO DAY MEETING 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.556 OF A CRITICAL TWO DAY MEETING OF THE CDC’S VACCINE ADVISORY 00:42:23.567 --> 00:42:25.425 OF THE CDC’S VACCINE ADVISORY PANEL HAS NOW WRAPPED UP. THE 00:42:25.436 --> 00:42:26.068 PANEL HAS NOW WRAPPED UP. THE PANEL CONSIDERED 00:42:26.103 --> 00:42:27.894 PANEL CONSIDERED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL HAVE 00:42:27.905 --> 00:42:29.496 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL HAVE MAJOR IMPLICATIONS ON VACCINE 00:42:29.507 --> 00:42:32.164 MAJOR IMPLICATIONS ON VACCINE POLICY AND ABILITY. MOMENTS AGO, 00:42:32.175 --> 00:42:33.175 POLICY AND ABILITY. MOMENTS AGO, ADVISERS VOTED FOR 00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:34.067 ADVISERS VOTED FOR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TAKE A 00:42:34.078 --> 00:42:36.078 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TAKE A MORE RESTRICTIVE APPROACH TO 00:42:36.113 --> 00:42:37.937 MORE RESTRICTIVE APPROACH TO THE COVID 19 VACCINE. THAT 00:42:37.948 --> 00:42:39.339 THE COVID 19 VACCINE. THAT MEETING COMES AFTER HEALTH AND 00:42:39.350 --> 00:42:41.508 MEETING COMES AFTER HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY ROBERT 00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.042 HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY ROBERT F KENNEDY JR FIRED ALL 17 00:42:43.053 --> 00:42:44.587 F KENNEDY JR FIRED ALL 17 EXPERTS ON THE PANEL AND 00:42:44.622 --> 00:42:46.246 EXPERTS ON THE PANEL AND REPLACED THEM WITH HIS OWN 00:42:46.257 --> 00:42:48.357 REPLACED THEM WITH HIS OWN PICKS, INCLUDING SOME VACCINE 00:42:48.359 --> 00:42:50.193 PICKS, INCLUDING SOME VACCINE SKEPTICS INSIDE THE ROOM. IT 00:42:50.227 --> 00:42:52.018 SKEPTICS INSIDE THE ROOM. IT HAS BEEN TENSE AND AT TIMES 00:42:52.029 --> 00:42:53.586 HAS BEEN TENSE AND AT TIMES CHAOTIC AS MEMBERS ENGAGED IN 00:42:53.597 --> 00:42:54.254 CHAOTIC AS MEMBERS ENGAGED IN HEATED DISCUSSION, WITH ONE 00:42:54.265 --> 00:42:55.899 HEATED DISCUSSION, WITH ONE MEMBER EVEN ACCUSING THE 00:42:55.933 --> 00:42:58.291 MEMBER EVEN ACCUSING THE COMMITTEE’S CHAIR OF UNFAIRLY 00:42:58.302 --> 00:43:00.904 COMMITTEE’S CHAIR OF UNFAIRLY MUTING HIS MICROPHONE. JOINING 00:43:00.938 --> 00:43:03.196 MUTING HIS MICROPHONE. JOINING ME NOW IS NBC NEWS NATIONAL 00:43:03.207 --> 00:43:05.642 ME NOW IS NBC NEWS NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AARON GILCHRIST. 00:43:05.643 --> 00:43:06.209 CORRESPONDENT AARON GILCHRIST. AARON, BRING US UP TO SPEED. 00:43:06.243 --> 00:43:08.167 AARON, BRING US UP TO SPEED. WHAT’S THE VERY LATEST FROM 00:43:08.178 --> 00:43:08.835 WHAT’S THE VERY LATEST FROM TODAY? 00:43:08.846 --> 00:43:09.979 TODAY? >> WELL, KRISTEN, I THINK IF 00:43:09.980 --> 00:43:12.081 >> WELL, KRISTEN, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE 00:43:12.083 --> 00:43:13.216 YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE LAST TWO DAYS, THERE WEREN’T 00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:15.475 LAST TWO DAYS, THERE WEREN’T ANY DRASTIC CHANGES TO THE 00:43:15.486 --> 00:43:16.553 ANY DRASTIC CHANGES TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE 00:43:16.554 --> 00:43:18.979 RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE VACCINE SCHEDULE FOR, FOR FOR 00:43:18.990 --> 00:43:20.190 VACCINE SCHEDULE FOR, FOR FOR CHILDREN OR ADULTS IN THIS 00:43:20.191 --> 00:43:22.249 CHILDREN OR ADULTS IN THIS COUNTRY. I THINK THAT’S SORT OF 00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:23.783 COUNTRY. I THINK THAT’S SORT OF THE TOP HEADLINE HERE TODAY. 00:43:23.794 --> 00:43:25.361 THE TOP HEADLINE HERE TODAY. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REALLY 00:43:25.363 --> 00:43:26.854 THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REALLY THIS MORNING THAT SPILLED OVER 00:43:26.865 --> 00:43:28.031 THIS MORNING THAT SPILLED OVER FROM YESTERDAY ABOUT THE 00:43:28.065 --> 00:43:29.265 FROM YESTERDAY ABOUT THE HEPATITIS B VACCINE IN 00:43:29.267 --> 00:43:31.692 HEPATITIS B VACCINE IN PARTICULAR. THAT WAS A VACCINE 00:43:31.703 --> 00:43:33.036 PARTICULAR. THAT WAS A VACCINE OR IS A VACCINE THAT RIGHT NOW 00:43:33.070 --> 00:43:34.170 OR IS A VACCINE THAT RIGHT NOW WAS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL 00:43:34.171 --> 00:43:36.272 WAS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL NEWBORNS, FOR CHILDREN, AS SOON 00:43:36.274 --> 00:43:38.165 NEWBORNS, FOR CHILDREN, AS SOON AS THEY’RE BORN TO GET. AND THE 00:43:38.176 --> 00:43:40.234 AS THEY’RE BORN TO GET. AND THE VOTE THIS MORNING WAS SUPPOSED 00:43:40.245 --> 00:43:41.978 VOTE THIS MORNING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT CHANGING THAT TO A 00:43:41.979 --> 00:43:44.180 TO BE ABOUT CHANGING THAT TO A LATER POINT IN LIFE FOR, FOR 00:43:44.182 --> 00:43:45.973 LATER POINT IN LIFE FOR, FOR FOR CHILDREN. AND ULTIMATELY, 00:43:45.984 --> 00:43:48.751 FOR CHILDREN. AND ULTIMATELY, AFTER SOME BACK AND FORTH AND 00:43:48.786 --> 00:43:49.676 AFTER SOME BACK AND FORTH AND DISAGREEMENT ABOUT ACCESS 00:43:49.687 --> 00:43:51.178 DISAGREEMENT ABOUT ACCESS ISSUES AND WHETHER THE VACCINES 00:43:51.189 --> 00:43:53.914 ISSUES AND WHETHER THE VACCINES WERE REALLY AS SAFE AS ALL THE 00:43:53.925 --> 00:43:55.058 WERE REALLY AS SAFE AS ALL THE SCIENCE CURRENTLY INDICATES 00:43:55.093 --> 00:43:57.194 SCIENCE CURRENTLY INDICATES THEY ARE, ULTIMATELY, THEY 00:43:57.195 --> 00:43:58.495 THEY ARE, ULTIMATELY, THEY DECIDED BASED ON A MOTION FROM 00:43:58.496 --> 00:44:00.420 DECIDED BASED ON A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE DOCTORS. AARON, I 00:44:00.431 --> 00:44:01.265 ONE OF THE DOCTORS. AARON, I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU VOTE 00:44:01.299 --> 00:44:02.189 HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU VOTE INDEFINITELY. 00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:04.324 INDEFINITELY. >> SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, 00:44:04.335 --> 00:44:05.192 >> SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TAKING 00:44:05.203 --> 00:44:06.436 BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TAKING QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. SO THANK